Conversations with Covid Skeptics

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This series features thoughtful conversations with individuals who chose to speak out and ask difficult questions during the COVID era. While COVID is part of the context, these discussions focus on broader issues such as freedom of speech, intellectual honesty, and the importance of questioning consensus in a healthy society. We explore when dissent is welcomed, when it is discouraged, and what happens when open dialogue is replaced by fear. These episodes are not about telling listeners what to think. They are an invitation to listen openly, reflect critically, and engage with perspectives you may not always agree with. Disclaimer The views expressed are the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and are shared for informational and educational purposes only. They do not constitute medical advice. The host does not endorse specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek advice from qualified healthcare professionals regarding health-related decisions. UK Public Health Context The UK Government and NHS state that COVID-19 vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness and are offered to those at higher risk. Any views expressed that differ from official guidance are personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice.

Episodes

  1. Dr Kelly Victory: The public health expert who risked it all to be on the right side of history

    APR 1

    Dr Kelly Victory: The public health expert who risked it all to be on the right side of history

    Dr. Kelly Victory is a residency trained and boarded trauma and emergency specialist with over 35 years of clinical experience. She is an expert in disaster preparedness and response and the medical management of mass casualties. She has an extensive background in public health, having served as Chief Medical Officer providing healthcare services for dozens of Fortune 500 companies, including Continental Airlines, Nissan Automotive, Harrah’s Entertainment, Sprint Wireless, USA Today-Gannet and Scott’s Miracle Gro, as well as federal agencies. Dr. Victory is an alumnus of the National Preparedness Leadership Initiative, a combined effort of Harvard School of Public Health and the Kennedy School of Government to develop “meta-leaders” for national disaster preparedness and response. She has worked closely with officials from Homeland Security, HHS, FEMA, and multiple branches of the military. In addition, she served as a member of the Leadership Council at Harvard School of Public Health for many years. Dr. Victory advocated tirelessly for a more measured, risk-stratified approach to the COVID19 pandemic response. She was a consistent and vocal proponent of aggressive early outpatient treatment for COVID19, as well as a cautious and informed, risk-benefit based approach to COVID vaccination. Her focus is on empowering patients through education and understanding their full range of treatment options, as well as the risk-benefit calculation for any intervention. Dr. Victory currently serves as the Chief of Disaster and Emergency Medicine for Wellness Company, as well as the Chief Medical Officer of The Wellness Company’s chronic care management division. Dr. Victory makes frequent radio and television appearances to discuss issues of public health, disasters, and mass casualty preparedness and response efforts. She appears frequently on Fox, Newsmax, America’s Real Voice, NewsNation and other news outlets. Dr. Victory holds a BS from Duke University, earned her MD from the University of North Carolina and completed her residency in Emergency Medicine and Trauma at Carolinas Medical Center. You can find out more about The Wellness Company here https://www.twc.health/ and you can follow Dr Victory on X @DrKellyVictory This interview was recorded in January 2026. ________________________________________ Important Disclaimer The information shared in this podcast represents the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and is provided for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended as medical advice and should not be relied upon as such. The host does not endorse or promote specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek the advice of qualified healthcare professionals with any questions regarding medical conditions or health decisions. ________________________________________ Official UK Public Health Context For clarity, the current UK Government and NHS position on COVID-19 vaccination is as follows: vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness. NHS vaccination is offered to people at higher risk of severe illness, including older adults, care home residents, and individuals with specified clinical vulnerabilities. Any views expressed by contributors that differ from this guidance are their personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice. Listeners or readers should consult NHS sources or healthcare professionals for individual health decisions.

    49 min
  2. Dr Tess Lawrie: The former WHO researcher who championed early treatments

    MAR 21

    Dr Tess Lawrie: The former WHO researcher who championed early treatments

    Tess Lawrie (MBBCh, PhD) is a medical doctor, research consultant, and health sovereignty advocate. Her clinical and research expertise derived from both developed and developing countries includes preparing evidence-based guidelines for the WHO between 2012 and 2021. With citations in excess of 8,800 for over 90 peer-reviewed scientific articles, she is a distinguished scientist.  In this episode, Tess talks about why she stood up and spoke out during the pandemic response, her experience of doing so, what she has learnt from that experience and why she is so passionate about continuing to advocate for health sovereignty.  Tess is a Director of the Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy Ltd and EbMCsquared CIC, founder of BIRD International, and co-founder of the World Council for Health.  She has recently authored a book called Game of Trust: The Lawrie Files, about Covid-19 corruption. Tess has no conflicts of interest. A list of Dr Lawrie’s 90+ peer reviewed scientific publications can be found here:-  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=lawrie-ta. Personal media include: Website: https://lawriefiles.com/ Substack :- https://drtesslawrie.substack.com Telegram :- https://t.me/DrTessLawrie Twitter :- https://twitter.com/lawrie_dr World Council for Health media Website: Worldcouncilforhealth.org Chatrooms https://source.worldcouncilforhealth.org/ Telegram: https://t.me/wch_org https://t.me/worldforhealthchat (WCH group chat) Twitter: https://twitter.com/FreeWCH Substack: https://worldcouncilforhealth.substack.com This episode was recorded in January 2026 ________________________________________ Important Disclaimer The information shared in this podcast represents the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and is provided for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended as medical advice and should not be relied upon as such. The host does not endorse or promote specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek the advice of qualified healthcare professionals with any questions regarding medical conditions or health decisions. ________________________________________ Official UK Public Health Context For clarity, the current UK Government and NHS position on COVID-19 vaccination is as follows: vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness. NHS vaccination is offered to people at higher risk of severe illness, including older adults, care home residents, and individuals with specified clinical vulnerabilities. Any views expressed by contributors that differ from this guidance are their personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice. Listeners or readers should consult NHS sources or healthcare professionals for individual health decisions.

    1h 4m
  3. Dr Ros Jones: The retired paediatrician who stood up for the children

    MAR 10

    Dr Ros Jones: The retired paediatrician who stood up for the children

    Dr Ros Jones, MD, FRCPCH is a retired Consultant Paediatrician with a special interest in neonatal intensive care and paediatric HIV. She served on the Advisory Committee of the National Perinatal Epidemiology Unit and on the Education & Training committee of the RCPCH.  She was an active member for many years in the British Perinatal Trials Group. As Clinical lead for Women & Children’s Services, she was involved in pandemic planning for avian flu at the busy district hospital where she worked. She has over 40 years’ experience in the NHS. After retiring, she undertook several tours teaching on SAFE Obstetrics courses in various countries in Africa. In March 2020, she renewed her medical licence in order to help but children were clearly not affected by covid-19 and children’s wards were eerily quiet.  Ros found herself campaigning to get schools reopened and subsequently set up a group of concerned health professionals and academics lobbying the regulatory authorities about the recklessness of rolling novel technology covid vaccines out to children and has provided a detailed witness statement for the UK COVID-19 Inquiry. Ros is co-chair of the HARTgroup and also a lighthouse keeper for the Cape Byron Lighthouse Declaration. You can find out more about the work Ros does at the following links: www.peoplesvaccineinquiry.co.uk www.hartgroup.org www.lighthousedeclaration.org This conversation was recorded in August 2025. ________________________________________ Important Disclaimer The information shared in this podcast represents the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and is provided for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended as medical advice and should not be relied upon as such. The host does not endorse or promote specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek the advice of qualified healthcare professionals with any questions regarding medical conditions or health decisions. ________________________________________ Official UK Public Health Context For clarity, the current UK Government and NHS position on COVID-19 vaccination is as follows: vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness. NHS vaccination is offered to people at higher risk of severe illness, including older adults, care home residents, and individuals with specified clinical vulnerabilities. Any views expressed by contributors that differ from this guidance are their personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice. Listeners or readers should consult NHS sources or healthcare professionals for individual health decisions.

    1h 7m
  4. Dr Gary Sidley: The psychologist who called out the 'nudges'.

    FEB 16

    Dr Gary Sidley: The psychologist who called out the 'nudges'.

    Gary Sidley, PhD, is a former NHS consultant clinical psychologist with over 30-years’ experience of clinical, professional and managerial practice in adult mental health. In 2000, he obtained his PhD for a thesis exploring the psychological predictors of suicidal behaviour and has multiple mental health publications to his name, including academic papers, book chapters, and his own book, ‘Tales from the Madhouse: An insider critique of psychiatric services).  Since the start of the covid event, he has written many articles critiquing the government’s nudge-infused messaging and mask mandates, including pieces for the Spectator, the Critic and Self & Society.  Recently, he was involved in the production of a short film – ‘Masking Humanity’ – that powerfully conveyed the cruelty inflicted upon elderly people by masking staff and visitors in our care homes. More of his articles can be found on his ‘Manipulation of the Masses’ Substack. This interview was recorded in August 2025. ________________________________________ Important Disclaimer The information shared in this podcast represents the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and is provided for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended as medical advice and should not be relied upon as such. The host does not endorse or promote specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek the advice of qualified healthcare professionals with any questions regarding medical conditions or health decisions. ________________________________________ Official UK Public Health Context For clarity, the current UK Government and NHS position on COVID-19 vaccination is as follows: vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness. NHS vaccination is offered to people at higher risk of severe illness, including older adults, care home residents, and individuals with specified clinical vulnerabilities. Any views expressed by contributors that differ from this guidance are their personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice. Listeners or readers should consult NHS sources or healthcare professionals for individual health decisions.

    1h 29m
  5. Dr Clare Craig: The pathologist who did her own research.

    FEB 5

    Dr Clare Craig: The pathologist who did her own research.

    Dr Clare Craig FRCPath Diagnostic Pathologist Clare has been a pathologist since 2001 working in the NHS and reaching consultant level in 2009. She specialised in cancer diagnostics including diagnostic testing for cancer within mass screening programmes and was the day to day pathology lead for the cancer arm of the 100,000 Genomes Project.  Clare was also clinical lead for the data team and led on research and development projects at Genomics England and wrote national guidance and helped build bespoke software, working closely with NHSE. Subsequently she has worked on artificial intelligence for cancer diagnostics. Here she speaks about her personal story about what it was like to speak up during the pandemic response, the backlash she experienced, the support she has received, the impact it has had on her life and how it has changed her perspective. This episode was recorded in October 2025. For more information on what Clare is doing now, you can follow her here: hartgroup.org and on X @clarecraigpath ________________________________________ Important Disclaimer The information shared in this podcast represents the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and is provided for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended as medical advice and should not be relied upon as such. The host does not endorse or promote specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek the advice of qualified healthcare professionals with any questions regarding medical conditions or health decisions. ________________________________________ Official UK Public Health Context For clarity, the current UK Government and NHS position on COVID-19 vaccination is as follows: vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness. NHS vaccination is offered to people at higher risk of severe illness, including older adults, care home residents, and individuals with specified clinical vulnerabilities. Any views expressed by contributors that differ from this guidance are their personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice. Listeners or readers should consult NHS sources or healthcare professionals for individual health decisions.

    1h 20m
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This series features thoughtful conversations with individuals who chose to speak out and ask difficult questions during the COVID era. While COVID is part of the context, these discussions focus on broader issues such as freedom of speech, intellectual honesty, and the importance of questioning consensus in a healthy society. We explore when dissent is welcomed, when it is discouraged, and what happens when open dialogue is replaced by fear. These episodes are not about telling listeners what to think. They are an invitation to listen openly, reflect critically, and engage with perspectives you may not always agree with. Disclaimer The views expressed are the personal opinions and experiences of the guests and are shared for informational and educational purposes only. They do not constitute medical advice. The host does not endorse specific medical claims or treatments. Always seek advice from qualified healthcare professionals regarding health-related decisions. UK Public Health Context The UK Government and NHS state that COVID-19 vaccines authorised for use in the UK meet regulatory standards for safety, quality, and effectiveness and are offered to those at higher risk. Any views expressed that differ from official guidance are personal opinions and should not be taken as medical advice.

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