The RBL Media Podcast

RBL Media

The RBL Media Podcast is for the rule-breakers, the misfits, and the ones who refuse to blend in. Entrepreneurship isn’t polished—it’s raw, relentless, and rebellious. Here, we spotlight the founders and creators who go against the grain, disrupt the norm, and build brands that actually matter. If you’re carving your own path and daring to do business differently, this is your space.

  1. Strengthening Human Connection Through CRMs with Brandon Drake

    10/28/2025

    Strengthening Human Connection Through CRMs with Brandon Drake

    This episode dives deep into the art of relationship-based business building. Brandon shares how his career evolved from data migration specialist to holistic nutrition coach to CRM consultant, allowing him to find a unique niche in bridging the gap between technology and humanity.  Pua and Brandon discuss how automation can enhance authenticity when used with intention, and how entrepreneurs can simplify their systems without losing their personal touch. From categorizing contacts and improving email deliverability to common CRM mistakes (like buying contact lists or over-automating), Brandon offers practical tips for building CRM systems that feel personal and purposeful. This conversation shows how real ROI doesn’t just come from a tool; it comes from nurturing relationships that last. Whether you’re new to CRMs or looking to refine your setup, this conversation will inspire you to create systems that strengthen your business relationships.   About Brandon Drake Brandon is a relationship-driven CRM consultant and the founder of Healthy Data Guy, where he helps entrepreneurs and business owners leverage customer relationship management systems to enhance genuine human connection. With a unique background in both IT and holistic nutrition, Brandon’s unique approach blends technical expertise with empathy and strategy. His motto: Use CRMs to strengthen human connection in the digital age.   Resources discussed in this episode: Brandon’s Guide to Choosing the Right CRM--  Contact Pua Pakele | RBL Media:  Website: RBLMedia.coFacebook: RBL-MediaTwitter: @RBLMedia_coInstagram: @RBL.MediaContact Brandon Drake | Healthy Data Guy:  Website: HealthyDataGuy.comInstagram: Healthy Data GuyFacebook: Healthy Data GuyLinkedin: Brandon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    53 min
  2. Education Is a Privilege We Deserve: Alexa Garza on Higher Ed in Prison

    10/14/2025

    Education Is a Privilege We Deserve: Alexa Garza on Higher Ed in Prison

    Pua sits down with Alexa Garza, Executive Director of the Texas Center for Higher Education in Prison (TEXCHEP) to talk about the inequities in access to higher education in prisons (and even after release). Alexa shares her own journey as an incarcerated scholar who earned her bachelor’s degree inside and later completed a master’s in business.  She explains the realities facing the 133,000 people incarcerated in Texas, with only 1,500 enrolled in college courses. We talk about gender disparities and why women have historically been a “correctional afterthought.” We also talk about what steps Alexa and TEXCHEP are taking to create better data, more practical campus supports, and second-chance hiring opportunities. Alexa’s overall goal is to help scale access to higher ed, leading people to dignified, goal-aligned careers.   About Alexa Garza Alexa Garza is the Executive Director of the Texas Center for Higher Education in Prison (TEXCHEP). After earning her undergraduate degree while inside, Alexa was denied graduate school after release. It was this experience that ignited her advocacy for access and equity in correctional education. Since then, Alexa has collaborated with stakeholders from colleges, corrections facilities, and policymakers to establish statewide guardrails for higher ed in prison and to expand student supports from custody to campus. Alexa later completed her master’s in business and now leads TEXCHEP, advocating for secondary school access and second-chance hiring. Resources discussed in this episode: RAND study on correctional education & recidivism (43% lower for participants)--  Contact Pua Pakele | RBL Media:  Website: RBLMedia.coFacebook: RBL-MediaTwitter: @RBLMedia_coInstagram: @RBL.MediaContact Alexa Garza | Tex WebsiteLinkedIn: Alexa Garza Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    48 min
  3. Leadership and Embracing Failure in the Coaching Space with Rebecca Misek

    09/30/2025

    Leadership and Embracing Failure in the Coaching Space with Rebecca Misek

    Coach Rebecca Misek of Arrow’s Edge Coaching shares how to reframe failure as fuel, process emotions with intention, and build an unshakable life and business. She explains why coaching as a modality creates lasting change, how identity congruence drives momentum, and why community matters. We also cover hiring outstanding talent, scaling with integrity, and cultivating resilience in the face of setbacks. Rebecca breaks down the difference between mentoring and coaching, highlighting powerful questions and deep listening as engines for durable transformation. She invites leaders to become unshakable by upgrading beliefs, aligning actions with values, and clearing the muddy trails that stall progress across relationships, finances, and operations. Through vivid client stories, Rebecca shows how removing shame accelerates change, how one belief shift can unlock career moves, and how setting bolder standards can multiply business results. She and host Pua explore the discipline of hiring outstanding contributors, creating containers for accountability, and cultivating a community that reinforces resilience and follow-through. We close with practical next steps for founders and high achievers who want momentum without burnout: clarify who you are, choose the meaning you assign to challenges, lean on community, and invest in support that keeps you on the trail. Rebecca reminds us that pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional, and with the right guidance, leaders can turn pressure into progress. About Rebecca Misek Rebecca Misek is the founder of Arrow’s Edge Coaching and the visionary behind the Unshakable Life Community. A coach, leader, and entrepreneur at heart, she is known for her straight-talk approach, deep listening skills, and ability to help high achievers unlock long-term resilience. With over a decade of experience building organizations, including leading and growing a church from the ground up, Rebecca understands both the triumphs and pitfalls that leaders face when striving to bring their vision to life. Her coaching journey began more than thirteen years ago, when she discovered that asking powerful questions and holding space for honest exploration produced lasting change in a way traditional mentoring could not. Today, she works with entrepreneurs, executives, and trailblazers to align values with actions, break through limiting beliefs, and build businesses and lives that are sustainable, authentic, and deeply fulfilling. Her core philosophy—that pain is inevitable but suffering is a choice—guides her mission to help others become unshakable, resilient, and fully equipped to thrive. --  Contact Pua Pakele | RBL Media:  Website: RBLMedia.coFacebook: RBL-MediaTwitter: @RBLMedia_coInstagram: @RBL.MediaContact Rebecca Misek | Arrows Edge Coaching:  Instagram: Rebecca MisekFacebook: Rebecca MisekLinkedin: Rebecca MisekEmail: rebecca@getarrowscoaching.comLinkedIn: Arrow’s Edge CoachingWebsite: Arrow’s Edge CoachingInstagram: Arrows Edge CoachingYouTube: Arrow’s Edge Coaching Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    53 min
  4. 09/16/2025

    Website Trends 2025-2026: What Every Business Owner Needs to Know

    In this episode of The Rebel Media Podcast, Pua breaks down why keeping your website updated matters more than ever for business success. Customers now expect fast, mobile-friendly, trustworthy sites that make decisions easy and reflect real, human brands. She explains how outdated websites lose sales even when the product is great, and why speed, credibility, and mobile-first design directly impact your bottom line. Pua then explores actionable trends to guide your site revamp: bold and simple layouts that reduce overwhelm, prioritizing authenticity over perfection, bigger and cleaner typography, natural-feeling interactive elements, and consistent use of brand colors. She also touches on advanced trends like dark mode options, websites that “remember” user behavior, conversational chat features, personalized experiences, and the growing integration of social commerce. Looking ahead to 2026, she highlights the importance of voice search, AI-powered customer service, visual search, and sustainability in digital spaces. Pua closes with a call to action for listeners to audit their sites, optimize for mobile speed, simplify content, and measure what matters, all while staying authentic and aligned with their values. Resources discussed in this episode: Shopify: https://www.shopify.comKajabi: https://app.kajabi.com/r/qfoLZghG/t/43i5otjy--  Contact Pua Pakele | RBL Media:  Website: RBLMedia.coFacebook: RBL-MediaTwitter: @RBLMedia_coInstagram: @RBL.Media Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    45 min
  5. How I Healed Myself from MS, an Interview with Leslie Wingrowich

    09/02/2025

    How I Healed Myself from MS, an Interview with Leslie Wingrowich

    In this episode, Pua sits down with Leslie Wingrowich, a former trauma and ICU nurse whose life was forever changed when she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. Told she would never walk again, Leslie rejected the prognosis and embarked on a relentless journey of self-healing, beginning with diet changes and later uncovering deeper connections between parasites, stress, trauma, and MS. Leslie opens up about the resilience it took to raise two small children while navigating paralysis, how her medical background shaped her advocacy, and why she believes in the body’s innate ability to heal when given the right tools. She also shares the emotional and spiritual layers of recovery, including suppressed childhood trauma, faith, and the importance of fighting for one’s health. This conversation highlights not just Leslie’s remarkable recovery, but also her mission to simplify the overwhelming amount of information into accessible resources for others living with MS. From her bestselling book Live Like You’re Not Scared to her step-by-step online course, Leslie is offering hope, practical guidance, and a roadmap for anyone facing what feels like an impossible diagnosis. About Leslie Wingrowich Leslie Wingrowich is a former ICU and trauma nurse, author, and health advocate who reversed her multiple sclerosis diagnosis through diet, lifestyle, and holistic healing practices. After being told she would never walk again, Leslie rebuilt her life and now helps others navigate MS and chronic illness by providing practical, step-by-step resources. Her work integrates medical knowledge, personal experience, faith, and an unshakable belief in the body’s ability to heal. Today, Leslie is the author of Live Like You’re Not Scared, offers a comprehensive online course for those ready to take control of their health, and continues to inspire audiences with her story of courage, grit, and transformation. -- Resources discussed in this episode: Live Like You’re Not Scared by Leslie Wingrowich (Amazon)Leslie’s WebsiteDr. Gabor Maté – Official WebsiteAnn Boroch: Healing Multiple Sclerosis: Diet, Detox & Nutritional Makeover for Total RecoveryTerry Wahls: The Wahls Protocol: A Radical New Way to Treat All Chronic Autoimmune Conditions Using Paleo Principles--  Contact Pua Pakele | RBL Media: Website: RBLMedia.coFacebook: RBL-MediaTwitter: @RBLMedia_coInstagram: @RBL.MediaContact Leslie Wingrowich: Website: lesliewingrowich.comInstagram: @lwingrowichFacebook: Leslie Wingrowich Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    54 min
  6. 08/05/2025

    Digital Door Knocking: The Right Kind of Hustle for Building Your Pipeline

    Pua dives into a topic many business owners dread: outreach. Whether it’s sending cold emails or reconnecting with old clients, outreach often feels awkward, pushy, or even sleazy. But Pua flips that narrative on its head and makes a compelling case for why outreach—done right—is one of the most powerful tools you can use to build a consistent, aligned client pipeline. She shares the personal mindset shift that finally got her out of the feast-or-famine cycle, and what happened when she started reaching out from a place of service rather than scarcity. You’ll hear how she approaches warm outreach with former clients and professional contacts, how she sends cold emails that don’t feel awkward, and why relationship-building—not pitching—is the key to turning conversations into opportunities. You’ll also learn how to track your outreach efforts, use social media engagement as a light-touch follow-up, and keep yourself grounded when imposter syndrome or introversion kicks in before a call. If you've been hiding behind content and hoping clients magically appear, this episode is your call to take action—and do it in a way that feels good. Contact Pua Pakele | RBL Media: Website: RBLMedia.coFacebook: RBL-MediaTwitter: @RBLMedia_coInstagram: @RBL.MediaTranscript Pualena  00:00 Entrepreneurs who master outreach are the ones who never have to worry about where their next client is coming from, and that kind of confidence changes everything. Hello and welcome back to The Rebel Media podcast. I'm your host, Pua, and today we are talking about something that is going to make some of you uncomfortable, and that's exactly why we need to talk about it. We're talking about outreach, cold outreach, warm outreach. I kind of like to think about this as digital door knocking. If you think about going door knocking, I have friends who are financial planners, and one of the things that they had to do when they first joined the company is literally go in their neighborhood and go door to door, talking about what they do. If that is not my ultimate nightmare… so when I say digital door knocking, I come from that perspective of… please, anything but this. But listen, I know you're rolling your eyes. I know that you think, I'm not gonna do sleazy sales, so I'm just gonna stop listening to this podcast, but please, please, please, stay with me, because I'm about to share with you some strategies personal stories of recently doing this and really enjoying it and having really, really good business outcomes.  I have to say, I did this recently from a place of desperation, and I was like—listen, this feast or famine in business… we can't be doing this anymore. I cannot be living like this. It is way too stressful, way too much anxiety, it's just if you, you know, right? Like, oh, I'm 100% referral-based. That means everybody loves me, that works with me. No, that means that you don't do any marketing, and you don't do any outreach, and so you don't ever have a wait list or a pipeline to draw from, and if you do, it's an accident, and you have three people coming to you at once, and then you have nobody for six months, and then you're living off of those three projects. You know what I mean, right?  So this, to me, is like the forgotten hustle and the only hustle that I've done recently that actually made a difference, and I see the importance of it, and I see the benefit of it so much now. To be honest, I never, ever did this before because I was scared of it. I didn't want to do it. And when you come and show up on these calls from a place of building genuine relationships and allowing that to fill your pipeline with quality leads, you actually create a network of people who genuinely want to refer business to you. It's insane, I know. It sounds totally crazy, and I wouldn't have believed me, so if you're out there and you're like, I don't even want to listen to the rest of this, I know what you're going to say and I don't want to do it, please just hear me out, because I was you. And to be honest, sometimes I still am, and I know that you don't want to hear this, but sitting behind your computer hoping for clients to magically find you is not a strategy, and it's something that I did for years. So don't feel bad if that's what you're doing and you can't be passive. This is a very active experience, and an active activity, and it's, it's the only thing that really moved the needle for us when it came to filling our pipeline. Because for so long, I was like—Oh, if we post on social media regularly, people will come. If we start sending newsletters, we'll get referrals. We did all those things, and they're great. There is value to that. But those do not lead to leads. They just don't do it right away. And so we're going to talk about good outreach and ending the feast or famine cycles and the hoping and praying for referrals, and really talk about taking control of your lead generation, because this is what I've learned.  Pualena 04:48 Entrepreneurs who master outreach are the ones who never have to worry about where their next client is coming from, and that kind of confidence changes everything. Okay, so we're going to talk about what outreach actually is and what it isn't. Because I think the reason why most entrepreneurs avoid it is because they have this image of being a sleazy salesperson, or car sales, no offense, car sales people. You know that there's a stigma, so I'm just going to throw that out there as a relatable piece. You don't want to sell to your friends, so warm outreach feels like it's not on the table, but unless you're doing like, copy and paste, pitches like a mass BCC to your entire contact list in email. That's not outreach. That's spam.  Real outreach is about building relationships, and the sooner you understand that, the sooner you'll feel good about doing this activity. It's about offering value before you ask for anything. It's about asking questions and actively trying to listen to what they have to say, learn who they are as people, learn about their business. Just be a helpful human who happens to run a business, not be a walking sales pitch, and that is going to change everything for you. I promise.  My biggest fear for warm outreach, actually for cold outreach too, but especially to people that already knew me, is I was afraid that they would see me as only reaching out when I wanted them to buy something. And I think that awareness, in and of itself can kind of help you to not show up that way. If you have that awareness, you're not going to show up with—What can I get from this person energy. But what I think you don't always realize is, that's not the only option. You don't have to just jump on a call and sell. You can jump on a call and say, What can I give this person? How can I serve this person? How can I help this person? And on so many of my calls recently where I actually sold something, people would say, “Oh my gosh, business is going great. I'm struggling with a couple things. But, you know, it's overall, it's, it's pretty good right now.” And I'm, like, “That's awesome.” I'm curious, and I promise and I'll even say, because I'm overly conscious of this, and it might even not be a great idea to say it, but I'm just going to be honest. I'll say, “I promise you, I'm not trying to sell any services to or anything. I'm just genuinely curious what, those things are that you're struggling with, and if I can give you advice or guidance or a referral or help you in any way, if you're willing to share with me, I'm just curious, what are those challenges you're having?” And a lot of times, people will be like, “Well, actually, that's why I was really excited to talk to you, because I looked at your website before the call, and I actually don't like my website.” And I'm like, “I swear I did not ask you to jump on this call to sell you a website.” And I'll even try not to sell them anything. I'll be like, “Oh my god, yeah, let's take a look at it, and if I can give you any tips on things that you can adjust that are probably really quick and easy and might make a big difference, I'm happy to share those with you.” And I swear to you, they're like, “Oh my god, yeah, you know what, I kind of just want to hand it off, though. I don't really want to do this myself.” Pualena 08:23 So think about what it is that you offer, and how you can show up on that call from a place of service and helpfulness and kindness and genuine curiosity, and I think you would be surprised how often those calls actually turn into people who are already interested in your business. So I want to talk to you about this approach before I talk to you about sourcing the people for these calls, because I think that mindset alone cannot just shift you out of fear of showing up like a salesperson or feeling scammy, but actually shift you into a place of—I'm actually super excited to do these calls, and I have to remind myself of that constantly, because I'll wake up, I do my calls on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and I'll see a, you know that happened this morning, I see a Tuesday full of calls, and I'm like—oh, I don't want to, but I have to remember and, like, remind myself of this, and then I get a little bit excited, but I will say before every single call, I'm anxious a little bit, and I'm a little bit nervous, and I'm a little bit praying that they don't show up. And I hate to admit that, because every person that shows up, with very few exceptions, I have a really fun and great conversation with, but there is just that, like, introverted part of me that's like, “Oh, I really don't want to talk to somebody today, you know.” So if you're feeling that, just know that you're normal.    Pualena  09:56 Okay, so we're going to talk a little bit about the types of outreach, how to do them, some strategies that you might follow, anything that you glean from this that you're

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The RBL Media Podcast is for the rule-breakers, the misfits, and the ones who refuse to blend in. Entrepreneurship isn’t polished—it’s raw, relentless, and rebellious. Here, we spotlight the founders and creators who go against the grain, disrupt the norm, and build brands that actually matter. If you’re carving your own path and daring to do business differently, this is your space.