Creative Chapel

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Welcome to CREATIVE CHAPEL. A podcast exploring the vast landscape of Christian artistry. This show exists to help Christian creatives navigate their faith and their purpose, bringing them to the place where Jesus has called them to and giving them the tools to thrive in their vocation. Across denominations and disciplinary mediums, Creative Chapel is building a space where saints can gather and celebrate their walk with Christ with their God-given gifting - encouraging each other in their faith and in their craft. Creative Chapel is the place for inspiration, curation, and revelation.

  1. hace 8 h

    He Edited Justin Bieber's Videos — Then God Interrupted His Career

    On this episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac sits down with Jordan Orme — YouTuber, video editor, and co-host of the Editing podcast, whose editing work includes Justin Bieber music videos and much more. Jordan shares how a magical first editing experiment turned into a full career, the fear-driven mindset that fueled his early success, and the moment mid-career when he heard God ask him a simple, redirecting question. They get into a chaotic (and unexpectedly miraculous) car-giveaway shoot with TikTok creator Jimmy Darts, the real toll creative work can take on a marriage, and Jordan's new project, Jordan Kale — a show built around people living out radically unfiltered faith.

    He Edited Justin Bieber's Videos — Then God Interrupted His Career

  2. 31 ago

    Recovery, leadership, and being a truthful storyteller with Paul Giret

    On this episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac sits down with Paul Garrett, a San Diego-based filmmaker, cinematographer, editor, and director. Paul shares his raw testimony of addiction and the art scene, a health crisis that reshaped his faith, and his unlikely path from barista to full-time filmmaker. They dig into servant leadership on set, praying with cast and crew of all beliefs, why Christian art needs more truth and less "sanitized" polish, and Paul's two upcoming documentaries — one on a cosplay-repair ministry at Comic-Con, and one exploring the Christian hardcore music scene.

    Recovery, leadership, and being a truthful storyteller with Paul Giret

  3. 24 ago

    From Skate Videos to Feature Films: Spencer Whiteout’s Creative Journey

    LINKS: PRE-ORDER A SHIRT HERE: https://www.maccreativeco.com/store CHECK OUT THE PRINTING OX: https://www.theprintingox.com/ The Spencer Whiteout Podcast: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0TSyyEp6IiA4PwbhtOJerC?si=1be59173abe84e14 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@spencerwhiteout/ Space Waves: Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXBjwJ9Z_g&t=3193s Buy // Support - https://linktr.ee/spacewavesfilm Beast Mode (The Making of Space Waves) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu3RO0nIHy8&t=522s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/spencer_whiteout/ ___ What happens when your faith, creativity, and ambition collide? In this episode of Creative Chapel, Chris sits down with filmmaker and podcaster Spencer Whiteout for a wide-ranging conversation about growing up Christian, discovering filmmaking through skateboarding, serving overseas, navigating forgiveness, and building an independent creative career. Spencer shares how a difficult friendship breakup during a ministry trip to China ultimately inspired his feature film Space Waves, a story about friendship, bitterness, forgiveness, and growing up. He also opens up about making a feature film with a small crew, limited resources, prayer, and a roughly $50,000 budget—and why he believes independent creators don't have to wait for Hollywood to give them permission to tell their stories. The conversation also explores the tension between being bold about your faith and being wise about what you share, navigating cancel culture, creating Christian art that reaches beyond the traditional Christian audience, and the importance of developing your craft without compromising your convictions. Spencer also reveals his vision for building a connected Whiteout Cinematic Universe, shares what is inspiring him creatively right now, and reflects on the lessons he's learned from five years of podcasting.

    From Skate Videos to Feature Films: Spencer Whiteout’s Creative Journey

  4. 17 ago

    The Five-Fold Ministry and Art: What We're Getting Wrong

    In this second solo episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac tackles a question a lot of Christian creatives quietly wrestle with: is art only valuable if it evangelizes? Chris pushes back on the idea of art as a "Trojan horse for the gospel," walks through Ephesians 4:11's five-fold ministry (apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers), and makes the case that reducing every creative work to an evangelistic tool actually limits its potential to minister — to believers and non-believers alike. He leans on Francis Schaeffer's Art in the Bible and Paul's "I planted, Apollos watered" framework from 1 Corinthians to reframe how creatives can think about purpose, calling, and audience. Shoutout to this episode's sponsor, The Printing Ox — preorder the new Creative Chapel shirt (Revelation 4:11 design) linked below. Timestamps: 0:00 – Cold open: the core questions of this episode 0:45 – Trying the solo format again 1:26 – The common claim: art as an evangelism tool 2:26 – Critiquing the "Trojan horse for the gospel" framing 3:19 – Why forcing art into apologetics feels inauthentic 6:27 – Reading Francis Schaeffer's quote from Art in the Bible 7:14 – 1 Corinthians 3:6: Paul, Apollos, and God bringing the growth 8:17 – The K-pop Demon Hunters example 9:23 – Early-listener subscribe ask 9:40 – Evangelism as a process: seeds, watering, growth 11:02 – Jesus's parables as worldview storytelling 12:24 – Ephesians 4:11: apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers 13:24 – Critiquing five-fold ministry "personality test" culture 15:16 – What if an artist were called to be a prophet or pastor? 16:04 – Can artwork itself be pastoral, apostolic, or prophetic? 17:01 – Printing Ox sponsor shoutout 18:15 – A quick summary of the gospel itself 18:50 – Ministering to needs beyond a strict gospel message 20:05 – Referencing Forrest Frank's Dawn Patrol 20:54 – Art as therapy & the value of unseen work 21:02 – Creating for an audience of one 22:37 – Encouragement: your work matters, even if it's not evangelism 24:37 – What's inspiring Chris: Keith & Chance the Rapper's new song 25:18 – Shoutout to Josh Nadeau / Sword and Pencil 26:34 – Creative Chapel Instagram DM shoutout 27:01 – Outro & Communion Church shoutout #CreativeChapel #ChristianArt #FaithAndCreativity #ChristianFilmmaker #FiveFoldMinistry #ChristianCreatives #TheologyOfArt #ChristianPodcast

    The Five-Fold Ministry and Art: What We're Getting Wrong

  5. 10 ago

    What Does the Bible Actually Say About Art? (Solo Deep Dive)

    In this first-ever solo episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac digs into two deceptively simple questions: how does the Bible define creativity, and what does Scripture say about the purpose of art? Along the way he unpacks the difference between the Hebrew words for "create" (bara) and "make" (asah), what that distinction means for how God values human craftsmanship, and how Jesus's miracles — from multiplying loaves and fish to turning bread and wine into communion — model both. He also explores Imago Dei, art as an act of pleasure and communication rather than utility, and closes with a challenge: your life itself is your greatest work of art. Shoutout to this episode's sponsor, The Printing Ox — preorder the new Creative Chapel shirt (featuring Revelation 4:11) linked below. https://www.maccreativeco.com/store/p/the-solace-vessel-56faa

    What Does the Bible Actually Say About Art? (Solo Deep Dive)

  6. 3 ago

    The Craft of Coffee and Running a Faith-Based Business with Efren Esqueda

    On this episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac sits down with Efren, owner of Shepherd's Coffee in San Diego, for one of the most raw and honest testimonies the show has featured. Efren opens up about growing up in poverty surrounded by addiction, encountering Christ as a teenager, and watching his mother miraculously healed after doctors gave her six months to live. He also shares the harder chapters — a failed first business, a spiral into addiction and suicidal thoughts, $60,000 in IRS debt, and the moment on a warehouse floor that changed everything. From there, the conversation shifts into the craft of coffee itself — origins, processing, roasting science — and what it looks like to run a faith-forward business in a industry that doesn't always welcome it. Shoutout to this episode's sponsor, The Printing Ox — preorder the new Creative Chapel shirt linked below. https://www.maccreativeco.com/store

    The Craft of Coffee and Running a Faith-Based Business with Efren Esqueda

  7. 27 jul

    Horror, Theology & Storytelling: A Fuller Seminary Professor's Case for Watching Scary Movies

    On this episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac sits down with Kutter Callaway — associate professor at Fuller Theological Seminary, host of the podcast Be Afraid, and author of the upcoming book on horror and theology. Kutter unpacks why so much "Christian art" ends up being bad art, why the horror genre might be one of the most theologically rich spaces in film right now, and why he — a lifelong horror-avoider — ended up building an entire podcast around walking into terrifying places. They cover the economics behind formulaic Christian movies, the concept of artists as "border stalkers," why you can't get to Easter without Good Friday, and how a new generation of YouTuber-filmmakers (Backrooms, Obsession, Iron Lung) is reshaping the industry from the outside in. Shoutout to this episode's sponsor, The Printing Ox — preorder the new Creative Chapel shirt linked below.

    Horror, Theology & Storytelling: A Fuller Seminary Professor's Case for Watching Scary Movies

  8. 20 jul

    From Church Videos to Super Bowl Commercials with Chris Francis

    On this episode of Creative Chapel, host Chris Mac sits down with Chris Francis — an award-winning commercial director with two Super Bowl spots in the past two years and a career built directing campaigns for major national brands at Raindrop Agency. Chris opens up about growing up as a pastor's kid, his unconventional path from church media team to top-tier ad agency director, and what it actually looks like to stay rooted in faith while working in secular entertainment. They dig into what it means to be a "border stalker" as a Christian creative — staying present in spaces that need light instead of retreating from them — the burnout that can come from working in church media, and why God cares more about your participation than your perfection. Chris also shares what's currently inspiring his own creative work, from A24 films to a psychiatrist's take on dopamine and the theology of work. If you're a creative trying to figure out how faith and career actually fit together, this conversation is packed with hard-won insight. Check out Chris's resource for creatives, Church Film School — link below. Follow Chris at his commercial site, chrisfrancis.tv, and on Instagram @_francois.

    From Church Videos to Super Bowl Commercials with Chris Francis
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Welcome to CREATIVE CHAPEL. A podcast exploring the vast landscape of Christian artistry. This show exists to help Christian creatives navigate their faith and their purpose, bringing them to the place where Jesus has called them to and giving them the tools to thrive in their vocation. Across denominations and disciplinary mediums, Creative Chapel is building a space where saints can gather and celebrate their walk with Christ with their God-given gifting - encouraging each other in their faith and in their craft. Creative Chapel is the place for inspiration, curation, and revelation.

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  • Creador
    Chris Mac
  • Años de actividad
    2026
  • Episodios
    13
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    © 2026 Chris Mac
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