Ryan is oddly emotional, especially on the question of whether Cooper survived the landing. But, he’s a good talker and gets to the point. One problem that hovers over all Cooper podcasts: I think we ran out of evidence a long, long time ago. So, all the discussion is about inferences from the tiny amount of data we do have. And I think that well has run dry. “Suspect” talk seems like a depressing way to fill the void, so I stopped listening to those particular conversations. Still, it will be an enduring mystery, and I enjoyed the ride.