Dear Chiefs Podcast Audra & Chelsi

In this episode, we delve into a critical issue facing firefighters and first responders: the alarming prevalence of cancer within their ranks. With cancer emerging as the leading cause of death among firefighters, the urgency to address preventive measures has never been more pressing.



This episode highlights the routine annual check-ups that firefighters undergo and sheds light on a troubling reality. Despite outwardly healthy appearances, many doctors often overlook the potential risks lurking beneath the surface. Enter Prenuvo, a pioneering company dedicated to revolutionizing preventive healthcare.



Joining the discussion is Dr. Sefi, a distinguished medical professional with a background that spans from Brown's Medical School to prestigious institutions like Stanford and Aidoc, before landing at Prenuvo. Dr. Sefi shares insights into the innovative technologies and approaches Prenuvo employs to detect cancer in its earliest stages, long before symptoms manifest.



Through compelling anecdotes and expert analysis, this episode explores the crucial importance of proactive measures in safeguarding the health and well-being of our brave firefighters and first responders. Tune in as we uncover the groundbreaking efforts to detect cancer before it strikes, offering hope and support to those on the front lines of emergency response.



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We're thrilled to dive into the world of first responder family life with our special guest, Kaitlin Soule, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Mental Health expert based in California.



Kaitlin Soule brings a wealth of expertise, specializing in women and teen mental health, modern parenthood, and anxiety disorders. As a mother of three and the wife of a firefighter, she offers a fresh perspective on navigating the complexities of this lifestyle. We'll even discuss her newly released book, A Little Less of a Hot Mess: The Modern Mom's Guide to Growth & Evolution



From the initial stages of her husband's firefighting career to the ongoing challenges of managing schedules and coping with the unpredictability of mandatory calls, Kristin shares her experiences. She provides practical, invaluable tips for finding balance and peace while navigating the everyday stresses of first responder spouses.



Books Mentioned During This Episode

Yours Truly by Abbi Jimenez

Good Inside by Dr. Becky



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In this episode, we welcome Kristin Starling, Executive Director of Songwriting With Soldiers (SW:S), a program dedicated to transforming the lives of military veterans and their families through collaborative songwriting.



Kristin shares insights into the profound impact of SW:S retreats, where veterans from all conflicts come together with professional songwriters to share their experiences and create powerful songs. These songs not only serve as a creative outlet but also bridge the gap between the military and civilian communities, raising awareness of the challenges faced by veterans.



Join us as we delve into Kristin's journey into the world of music and her dedication to serving veterans through SW:S. Discover the positive psychology behind the program and hear firsthand examples of how it has changed lives.



And of course, don't miss the fun as we put Kristin in the hot seat with some rapid-fire questions, getting to know her on a personal level. From Easter candies to dinner party guests, we cover it all!



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Song Sampled by Danny during the campfire: Let Go Of The Pain



Mentioned On This Episode:



Boulder Crest Foundation

Danny Myrick

Travis Howard

Liz Huett



"This is What It Sounds Like" by Susan Rogers

Flight Of The Butterflies



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In this compelling episode, we delve deep into the intricate concept of moral injury with esteemed guest Dr. Brooke Bartlett, Ph.D. Dr. Bartlett, a licensed clinical psychologist and the driving force behind the Center for Trauma, Anxiety, and Stress (CTAS), brings her extensive expertise to the forefront as we explore the complexities surrounding moral injury, particularly within the realms of first responders and military personnel.

Drawing from over a decade of hands-on experience providing evidence-based clinical services to these courageous individuals, Dr. Bartlett sheds light on the nuanced psychological challenges they face both in the therapy room and out in the field. Her profound understanding of trauma and its effects on the human psyche serves as a guiding beacon throughout our conversation.



With a remarkable research background that spans over 20 publications in scientific journals, a published book chapter, and countless presentations at prestigious conferences worldwide, Dr. Bartlett offers invaluable insights into the often-overlooked realm of moral injury. She passionately advocates for the mental well-being of those who selflessly serve their communities and countries, emphasizing the importance of tailored therapeutic approaches and comprehensive wellness programming.



Throughout the episode, Dr. Bartlett shares poignant anecdotes and practical strategies aimed at addressing moral injury and fostering resilience among first responders and military members. From stress first aid consultation to specialized wellness initiatives, her multifaceted approach underscores the significance of holistic support systems in mitigating the impact of moral distress.



Join us as we embark on a thought-provoking journey with Dr. Brooke Bartlett, delving into the heart of moral injury and discovering actionable steps toward healing and resilience. Whether you're a frontline responder, a military veteran, or simply an advocate for mental health awareness, this episode promises to ignite meaningful dialogue and inspire positive change in our communities.



Mentioned During This Episode:



LMNT Zero-Sugar Electrolytes 



On Desperate Ground by Hampton Sides



The Anxious Perfectionist by Clarissa W. Ong PhD and Michael P. Twohig PhD



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website: https://www.centertas.com/



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In this thought-provoking episode, we dive headfirst into a viral TikTok myth that's been stirring conversations about infidelity and divorce rates within the fire service. Join us for an eye-opening discussion with Spencer, better known as The Mando Medic on Instagram, who brings over a decade of experience in Fire and EMS to the table.

Spencer holds nothing back as he shares his unvarnished insights on navigating the intricacies of marriage while working in high-stress public service roles. Discover crucial strategies for achieving a balance between the demands of your profession and your personal life, effectively managing workplace stress, and fostering empathy in challenging situations.

As we explore the multifaceted nature of divorce in public service, Spencer's candid perspective sheds light on this significant issue.



Spencer has spent his life in and around public service. He was raised in a law enforcement family and began working as a FF/EMT immediately upon graduating high school. For the past ten years, he has held various roles in Fire and EMS including firefighter, paramedic, and adjunct instructor. After experiencing a mental health crisis himself, Spencer recognized the need for mental health education and saw social media as a medium to deliver it. He now strives to provide no-frills, first-responder-focused mental health education through his Instagram page @TheMandoMedic. 



Tune in now to broaden your understanding and gain valuable insights from our conversation.



Books, Social Media Posts + Podcasts Mentioned During This Episode

Breakfast with Seneca by  David Fideler

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Divorce In Public Service Insta Post



The Overwatch Collective: https://www.theoverwatchcollective.com/



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Audra's husband, Fire Captain Damien Carrion, bravely shares his personal journey through the aftermath of a suicide within his own department. For 15 years, Damien silently wrestled with the impact and stigma surrounding mental health in the firefighting community. Tune in as he candidly discusses his struggles and the pivotal moment that drove him to champion change. From struggling alone to becoming an advocate for mental wellness, Damien's story is both raw and inspiring. Join us as we explore the importance of breaking the silence surrounding mental health in high-stress professions and the transformative power of one person's courage.




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