17 episodes

If you are trying to figure out how to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while you have questions, doubts and wonderings about your spiritual journey, this podcast is for you. It doesn't matter if your kids are smalls, middles, or bigs. We will explore what and how we are deconstructing from churchianity, harmful belief systems, and diving deep into the ways we can work this out in parenthood. We will also work through ideas for reconstructing a space for our families to thrive under new systems of love and freedom. We can't wait to bring you some hope that you are not alone and that it's really okay, even good, to explore all the possibilities that may have felt closed off in the past. This podcast will offer you grace and space to be exactly where you are and who you are. We are glad you are here.

Deconstructing Mamas Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8 • 35 Ratings

If you are trying to figure out how to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while you have questions, doubts and wonderings about your spiritual journey, this podcast is for you. It doesn't matter if your kids are smalls, middles, or bigs. We will explore what and how we are deconstructing from churchianity, harmful belief systems, and diving deep into the ways we can work this out in parenthood. We will also work through ideas for reconstructing a space for our families to thrive under new systems of love and freedom. We can't wait to bring you some hope that you are not alone and that it's really okay, even good, to explore all the possibilities that may have felt closed off in the past. This podcast will offer you grace and space to be exactly where you are and who you are. We are glad you are here.

    Better Than Purity - Brittany Meng

    Better Than Purity - Brittany Meng

    "We need to embrace better questions when we try to help relationships thrive, rejecting shame and judgment, and instead focusing on love, respect, and boundaries that encompass the entire expression of what it means to be human and healthy. "
    In this episode on the Deconstructing Mamas podcast, Brittany Meng of the Bam Blog,  dives deep with us into the toxic nature of purity culture. 


    SHOW NOTES:

    Brittany is a mom of five, military wife, fellow sojourner in "curious faith" land, crafter and Etsy shop owner, brilliant and brave author of Unexpected and the hostess extraordinaire of the Motherhood Metamorphosis podcast. She has a heart for special needs, self-care, spiritual growth and raising kids without losing your mind!

    Brittany's gentle, but very firm spirit brings both grace and truth to a subject that is tricky at best and horrific at worst. You don't want to miss the out on hearing why she believes there is something so much better than the question, "Are you pure?"

    Put on your life preserver and jump right on in!!

    Website: The Bam Blog

    Podcast: Motherhood Metamorphosis
    Facebook: Brittany Meng the Bam Blog
    Etsy: GiftsByBrittanyGrace

    SPECIAL MENTIONS:
    Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

    • 52 min
    Begin with the End in Mind - Brian McLaren

    Begin with the End in Mind - Brian McLaren

    "Faith before doubt is about correct beliefs.  Faith after doubt is about revolutionary love.  Love is our ultimate goal."  (Faith After Doubt)
     
    In this episode on the Deconstructing Mamas podcast, Brian McLaren, author of that quote, 
    is a stalwart in the arena of faith and deconstructing.  Brian wisely and warmly guides us gently through the four stages of childhood/faith and how to work through them in ourselves and in our own parenting.
    Plus, you'll find out his secret passion (hint: has something to do with sea wildlife...).

    Plus plus, find out what's more important than being "cool."
    You don't want to miss it!


    SHOW NOTES:

    Brian McLaren, husband to one, father to four, doting grandpa to five, former pastor to many, author of a boatload of books, and wise, WARM, spiritual mentor to millions tells story after story about his evolving faith journey and walks us carefully through to the end goal of faith expressing itself in transformational love, for both us and our kids.

    Brian D. McLaren is an author of several books, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a core faculty member of  The Living School and podcaster with Learning How to See, which are part of the Center for Action and Contemplation.

    Website:  www.brianmclaren.net

    Facebook:  Brian D. McLaren
    Instagram:  @brian_mclaren
    Twitter: @brianmclaren 

    OTHER MENTIONS:

    Walter Brueggemann












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    • 46 min
    Good (Hard) Grief - Season 2, Episode 15 (Lizz & Esther)

    Good (Hard) Grief - Season 2, Episode 15 (Lizz & Esther)

    Who knew that when we asked our first question about the faith that was either handed down to us or we grabbed onto with all our might when someone shared the "good news," there would be so much loss associated with it.

    We were just asking a question, right?
    We were just pulling back the curtain to see what was going on behind there, right?

    But here we are, and one question turned into another and another and another, and we perhaps find ourselves with more questions than answers and the curtain has not only been pulled back, it's laying on the floor torn into shreds and what was going on behind there is exposed every which way.

    And the loss, the incredible loss that's hopped along with the questions and the torn curtain, is something that perhaps has surprised us (or maybe not so much). But it's there none-the-less.

    We are left with the loss of community, friendship, even family relationships, respect, certainty, all the things that held us for so long.
    And the searing grief that comes with losing all of these things, it feels like, in one fell swoop, is something we find ourselves surprised by, pummeled by or just hovering under the surface ready to make it's way out at the most inopportune times or ways (like in the shower or into our pillow or an outburst at a family reunion or on social media).

    We, your favorite podcast hostesses in the whole wide world, Lizz and Esther, kick Season Two off with a bang diving deep into their own losses (that might sound eerily similar to yours) and the painful, messy, necessary process of grief that is going right along with it.

    SHOW NOTES:

    Lizz Enns Petters, daughter of Bible scholar, Pete Enns, is on a mission to bring hope into the most awful of places, where mental health suffers at the hands of a rigid faith systems.

    Website:  www.elizabethpetters.com
    Facebook:  Lizz Enns Petters, The Deconstructed Mama
    Instagram:  @lizzennspetters
    Twitter:  @eepetters

    Esther Joy Goetz, wife to one and mother to four grown kids and all their people, has a fierce passion to restore hope for the sacred space where our hearts and our homes meet. This includes faith, marriage and motherhood.

    Website:  www.estherjoygoetz.com

    Faith:

    Facebook:  Esther, the Dolly Mama
    Instagram:  Estherthedollymama

    Motherhood:

    Facebook:  Moms of Bigs
    Instagram:  Moms of Bigs 

    SPECIAL MENTIONS:
    Glennon Doyle
    Pete Enns
    Emily P. Freeman

    • 48 min
    Your Next Step - Erica Garthwaite (*BONUS SUMMER EPISODE*)

    Your Next Step - Erica Garthwaite (*BONUS SUMMER EPISODE*)

    "I can't see a way through," said the boy.
    "Can you see your next step," said the horse.
    "Yes," said the boy.
    "Just take that," said the horse.

    (Charlie Mackesy) 
    In this BONUS SUMMER episode on the Deconstructing Mamas podcast, Erica Garthwaite, friend of Lizz and Esther (and part of their book club) brings her mic-drop wisdom to the table when it comes to navigating difficult topics with your kids as you deconstruct and they have questions.
    SHOW NOTES: 
    Erica is the "Solomon" of our day. Wisdom emanates from every word that she shares and you will wish you could have coffee and pick her brain about all your parenting issues. She is a wife to a stay-at-home husband, a high-level marketing genius and a mom to two young children (one who asks a ton of hard questions).
    This podcast episode is chock full of messages that will make you sigh with relief and give you lots of new ways of interacting with your kids through this whole rethinking and rebuilding your faith journey. We are so grateful to share this episode during the time in the summer when everyone is still in the "heat of it," but gearing back up for the start of the school year (except you Aussie folks...what's up with you?). Enjoy this BONUS and remember, it's not too long until Season 2 begins.
    SPECIAL MENTIONS:
    Charlie Mackesy 
    Glennon Doyle

    Messiah University

    • 34 min
    Connecting to Your True Self - Liz Milani

    Connecting to Your True Self - Liz Milani

    "Life is always moving. You have permission to move with it, to leave behind the things that do not serve you, and become someone new, someone more like you, more like your true self."
    In this episode on the Deconstructing Mamas podcast, Liz Milani, author of that quote, author of the PracticeCo app (daily devotionals that are holistic, inclusive and cliche-free) shares her  heart with us and our need to discover and connect with our true selves.


    SHOW NOTES:

    Liz is one-of-a-kind. Her tender, yet very passionate heart, along with her ability to laugh, while at the same time, communicate sacred truths is just what you need to experience.  She is a wife to one and a mom to three, her littlest having a special love relationship with cursing (find out more about that on our episode). Liz has done the hard work of leaving behind a toxic theology and the abandonment of herself because of it and has the mission to help others along their own paths toward freedom and wholeness.

    This podcast episode is chock full of messages that will make your heart sing, come alive and give you so much hope as you navigate the journey of deconstructing, parenting in the middle of it, but also how you, as a human, have permission to find out who you are, what you love and connect in ways that bring authenticity and vulnerability to the table of life.

    Liz has a way of asking questions that make you dive deep and feel hopeful. Buckle up.  It's an incredible way to round out our Season One.

    Instagram:  @thepracticeco  
    Facebook: The Practice Co 
    Website:  www.thepracticeco.com 

    SPECIAL MENTIONS:
    David Levithan

    • 43 min
    The Relief Grief Sandwich - Cindy Wang Brandt

    The Relief Grief Sandwich - Cindy Wang Brandt

    "Parenting may be less about raising our children and more about raising ourselves. It compels us to break our own cycles of shame and pain as we bring healing to our own childhood."
    In this episode on the Deconstructing Mamas podcast, Cindy Wang Brandt, author of that quote, cohost on the Parenting Forward podcast and author of Parenting Forward, really digs deep into the subject of religious trauma and how that plays out in parenting. How can we heal ourselves, make good boundaries with our families of origin and give ourselves grace and space in the process? 


    SHOW NOTES:

    Cindy is the guru when it comes to deconstructing and parenting. She is a wife to one and a mom to two.  She has done the hard work of helping parents unpack and heal from their own religious trauma so they can raise children with healthy spirituality.

    This podcast episode is packed full of so many nuggets of wisdom, but Cindy breaks it all down super practically. So if you are starting this journey or are in the middle or even far along, this podcast episode has something special just for you.

    Facebook: Parenting Forward
    Raising Children Unfundamentalist Group
    Instagram:  @parentingforward 
    Twitter:  @cindywangbrandt

    Website:  www.cindywangbrandt.com

    Parenting Forward Conference


    SPECIAL MENTIONS:
    Pete Enns

    • 43 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
35 Ratings

35 Ratings

thegrace_bga ,

Never miss a week!

Love these conversations! Life-giving and hopeful. Thank you ladies for the work you ar doing.

B4NP ,

Awesome and honest

What an incredible podcast for those seeking better paths to God! I live the vulnerability and positive vibe!!

og tutor ,

Wonderful Conversations

Thank you both for your honesty and vulnerability. The world needs more of both of those right now!!

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