Deep Breaths

Kayla Greenstien

Quick breathers on Holotropic Breathwork, New Ageism and psychedelic therapy. deeepbreaths.substack.com

Episodes

  1. 12/09/2025

    Quick Breather #11 (pt.1) - Hamilton Morris' group chat

    This was supposed to be just a brief intro to the recording I made yesterday, but I ended up going on for a while… Dao Anh Kahn’s penis valley: https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p07b3fds/the-controversial-art-festival-deep-in-the-jungle An article from Rolling Stone on empathy x wealth research: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/billionaires-psychology-tech-politics-1235358129/ “Wealth makes you less generous (lower-income individuals have been shown to give a greater proportion of their income than wealthier ones), less compassionate (people with more money and status report less distress when confronted with another person’s suffering), and more narcissistic. In a hilariously pointed study that was also included in the PNAS article, people primed to think of themselves as upper-class were more likely to take candy from a jar that they had been told was meant for kids in a nearby lab. In other words, they were more likely to literally steal candy from children… When it came to determining the mechanism behind this antisocial shift, researchers hypothesize that socialization itself is key. Wealthy people tend to have more space, literally and figuratively. They spread themselves out into bigger homes, they send their children to less crowded schools, they interact less with the hoi polloi and even, research has shown, with members of their own social class. And they have less need to: Wealthy people are insulated from relying on the types of pro-social engagement that the rest of us need to survive and thrive in an interconnected world. For them, it does not take a village; it takes a staff… If left unchecked, however, wealth-­related disengagement seems to not be so great for a species for which pro-social cooperation is programmed into our hunter-gatherer DNA. Clay Cockrell, a psychotherapist who caters to ultra-high-net-worth individuals, tells me he thinks of great wealth as subtractive: It doesn’t really add to one’s happiness, but it does take away struggles that can make someone unhappy. Yet it’s subtractive in a different sense, too — contributing to isolation, paranoia, grandiosity, and risk-taking behavior, as well as a pronounced lack of empathy. “As your wealth increases, your empathy decreases. Your ability to relate to other people who are not like you decreases.… It can be very toxic.” Social psychologist Michael Kraus, who participated in much of the Berkeley research with Piff, puts it even more pointedly: “You come to this idea that all of your thoughts and feelings matter, all your ways of interpreting the world matters, and everybody else is just kind of noise.… You just don’t care.”” https://artvee.com/dl/mystical-head-head-of-a-girl-frontal#00 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deeepbreaths.substack.com

    28 min
  2. 11/29/2025

    Quick Breather #10 - Hamilton Morris, seeming "seriously mentally ill", Psymposia, Jess Taylor, Joe Rogan, MK Ultra

    In order of mentions: * I didn’t actually mention Moira Donegan’s tweet, but coincidentally, just before I recorded this, she summed up one of the patterns of responses guys like Hamilton use: * My “nutty” post about the very obviously not-organic Reddit promo of his interview. Keep in mind, Hamilton is also trying to normalise Matt Baggott’s Reddit-LLM-bot trained on Hamilton. These guys…seriously. * The sound event I went to that I had to leave was actually tied to psychedelic things in a way I didn’t realise — my partner bought the tickets, and I just showed up. Another reason I left was because they were professional recording and I felt like I was going to end up crying in an instagram ad. This is a whole other rabbit hole that I’ll have to get into another time https://www.theindigoproject.com.au/attune/ * Jess Taylor’s article on Lucy Dawson, who was misdiagnosed with psychosis at 12 years old and later ended her life in a psychiatric ward: * Here’s Jules Evans telling me to write a book about how much I hate Stan Grof in his comments. Jules has been an insecure and defensive jerk with me via DM before, so I wasn’t all that surprised. I’ve told him clearly that I’m trying to be friendly. I pay for his Substack. I had a Zoom meeting with him earlier in the year that I thought was friendly. I very rarely comment on Jules' stories, haven’t brought up Grof before in my comments on his posts, and when I do post about Grof, I ask fair and reasonable questions/comments. And yet, this is what I get as his summary of research interests. The last sentence was edited on, by the way. So Jules went back to add in the dig at me, to make me look unhinged and hysterical…how cool and stoic of him. * Documentary about Lenny and Elizabeth Gibson’s Grof-devotee Dreamshadow breathwork. * * * Both Joe Moore and Erica Rex have decided that Amy Griffin is a lying traitor to women. This is an especially wild position for Joe to take. The comments and ignorance about memory, and how much Joe’s work and Grofian views have set up the recovered memory explosion….ouf… * My homemade-in-Australia pumpkin pie This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deeepbreaths.substack.com

    32 min
  3. 10/07/2025

    Quick Breather #8 - Jung, simplicity, Dumme Michel, Rolling Stone, MAPS image rehab, Psychedelics Today paid community, Shameless talks about The Tell

    An extra-long, public holiday Monday recording: * Jung and simplicity: https://substack.com/home/post/p-175231954 [my image selection, in praise of la folie…. L’Éloge de la Folie – Erasmus] See also: https://eternalisedofficial.com/2023/05/25/the-psychology-of-the-fool/ * Rolling Stone and the casual on going campaign to keep MAPS relevant and respected https://www.rollingstone.com/culture-council/articles/lessons-leaders-can-learn-from-largest-psychedelic-science-conference-world-1235439690/ * ​Psychedelics Today builds a multi-tiered paid access community * Australian podcast Shameless the podcast “for smart people who love dumb stuff” covers The Tell: In the show notes for the episode, they write: ”Hiya! On today’s show: the billionaire, the psychedelics and the best-selling memoir. Amy Griffin was already incredibly wealthy before her best-selling memoir, The Tell. In fact, that wealth and influence might’ve just been the thing that pushed the publishing deal over the line. Now, after everyone from Oprah Winfrey to Gwyneth Paltrow to Reese Witherspoon has endorsed Amy’s book, the New York Times has raised some pretty serious questions about the story within... On today’s show, Mich recommended Running Point on Netflix. Zara recommended Spencer Matthews on Good Company. The Billionaire, the Psychedelics and the Best-Selling Memoir in The New York Times. Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1).” This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deeepbreaths.substack.com

    59 min
  4. 09/22/2025

    Quick Breather #6 - Dimensions of Dying and Rebirth, Casey Paleos, Wolff et al., 2025, The Tell, Salvia Tiktok

    Links and notes in order of mention: * The Dimensions of Dying and Rebirth * Casey “not-like-the-other-psychiatrists” Paleos and the NYC psychedelic therapy scene around Fluence are big GPM (II-IV). * “Key competencies for psychedelic treatment in real-world mental health care settings” Wolff et al., 2025 * Some other points on The Tell: -I think Amy Griffin is involved with an extremely dubious scene of psychedelic therapists/sitters, all revolving around the orbit of MAPS, T Cody Swift, NYU, (I have no evidence to back this, but I would be entirely unsurprised to see connections with NYC-based Fluence et al.). -It was reckless for Olivia, the “practitioner” that Amy and John Griffin worked with, to go into the session with Amy, intending to look for repressed memories of sexual abuse. -There are numerous other glaringly large red flags in Olivia’s practice e.g. this whole quote: ““AS TIME WENT ON, I found myself asking more people if I could share my story with them. I understood that it was a lot to hear, and the person listening needed to be ready to hear it. But I also understood that to tell—the thing I promised I would never do—was a gift to myself. Each time I gave myself permission to tell, I felt freer.Sometimes, when I told people, they praised me for doing “the work,” because, they said, it made me a better example to my children, a better wife to my husband, or a better friend to those closest to me. Women are always doing things so we can be better for other people. My relationships had changed for the better, but I didn’t do it for anyone else. I did it for me.There is also, I’ve learned, a way that people sometimes respond when I tell them about my experience. They grow tight, zipped up, locked away. “I don’t think I could do anything like that,” they say. “I’m too much of a control freak. And besides, I don’t think I want to know. What if I don’t have the space for “ it? What if I find out something that I can’t deal with? I don’t have the time to process what comes up on the other end. Why would I want to wallow in the pain?” Or the line I hear the most: “If I don’t remember something, isn’t there a good reason for that?” In these comments, I hear the sound of their tell—the thing that nags at them with gnawed edges, the way it did at me for so long.Olivia laughed when I told her this. “You and I both know those are probably the people who need it the most,” she said. “Just like you did.”She was visiting me and John on a summer night not unlike the one when she’d first entered my life. MDMA had recently been legalized for therapeutic use in Australia, which indicated that the rest of the Western world would likely follow in the years to come. I was wearing the bracelet Olivia had given me for my birthday a year earlier, which had become one of my most cherished possessions—a tangible link to the leap of faith I’d taken. Just like the one I’d held on her wrist “during my first session, the bracelet was made of coins that I now knew dated to 1912, the year MDMA was invented.” -There are big question marks for me about how and why this book got published. It seems a literary agent sought out Amy, although Amy’s writing was originally intended entirely for herself. It feels incredibly fast, almost like running into publishing a memoir. Ironically, Amy claims that her entire therapy process has been about teaching her to slow down? This feels like the fastest sprint into blowing up a massive and still very fresh story involving repressed memories. Though I have a lot of reservations about saying this, I feel that Amy is being exploited in some ways by the publishing behemoth that put this book into the public consciousness. -Olivia of all people should have been strongly warning about this book being published — my guess is though is that she’s probably all on board, rationalising as being guided by Amy’s inner healing intelligence. -Amy isn’t without agency in this — I’m not saying she has been ‘brainwashed’ or is in a cult. But she’s definitely repeating the Grof party line, without ever mentioning him. I think she might be the greatest example of Grof Promulgation Matrices four (GPM IV). Amy is somone who has every resource available to look at participate in good research. She has every financial resource available to fund women’s research and companies, and she does. Her first big investment was in…Goop. Gwenyth Paltrow. That is who Amy Griffin is — we should believe her, because she has told us exactly who she is. Amy lives in a world without intersectionality. which leads me to the next point -There are many extremely valid reasons why you shouldn’t tell people your story. It is not safe for many people to tell their story. They don’t deserve to hear it. They can’t hear. Or, just simply, you don’t feel the need to tell them. Stories hold different weights for everyone — some big some non-existent. This insistance to “tell” is such a huge, glaring point that she never puts any conditions around. It reminds me of myself at 23-ish, 2011-ish. I had a friend from an extremely strict family. There were many layers of culture, religion, and probably just plain abuse. She was dating a white guy and her parents could not find out. She was clear about this. I told her she should just tell! It will be so freeing! You have a right to — you need to live your truth. I was an idiot — I did not understand. Many years later, I look and see how she tried to teach me and explain to me why that wasn’t possible. I understand a lot better now after a lot of experience working in family court and family violence response services. This whole thing is just…deeply unsettling to me Then of course there’s the whole thing of John Griffin donating $1 million to fund the MAPS phase III trials. This was a few months after the Phase II abuse became public throug Olivia Goldhill’s reporting Of course this is all tied to PSFC. OAnd his $77million townhouse. Don’t worry though, John is figuring out why poverty persists. * If Grof had been a 20-something dude in 2025 telling you about doing a huge hit of Salvia in highschool instead of a 25-year old psychiatrist in 1956 Czechlosovakia who writes books about doing LSD for the first time: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deeepbreaths.substack.com

    45 min
  5. 09/08/2025

    Quick Breather #4 - Breathwork and apathy, stroboscopic light and Stan's first LSD trip, the Tell, certification for facilitators in the Ethical Trip

    This week I go back to last week and talk about my breathwork session, stroboscopic light and Stan's first LSD trip, the book The Tell and discussion of certification for facilitators in the Ethical Trip. Here are some screenshots/links/quotes in order of mention throughout the episode: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8248711/ https://www.isrctn.com/ISRCTN82430224 https://lannayoga.com/ajnalight/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Theory-and-Science-of-the-Ajna-Light-2.pdf Grof’s first LSD trip, from The Way of the Psychonaut (2021): “I was at that point becoming disillusioned by psychoanalysis, realizing the amount of time and money it required and how unimpressive the results were. I was extremely excited about such an extraordinary training opportunity and asked Dr. Roubíček if I could have an LSD session. Unfortunately, the staff of the psychiatric clinic decided that, for a variety of reasons, students would not be accepted as volunteers. Dr. Roubíček was very interested in the new substance, but too busy to spend hours at a time in the LSD sessions of his experimental subjects. He needed help, and there were no objections against me supervising the psychedelic sessions of others and keeping records of their experiences. I thus had sat in the LSD sessions of many Czech psychiatrists and psychologists, prominent artists, and other interested persons before I myself qualified as an experimental subject. By the time I graduated from the medical school and was myself eligible for a session, my appetite had been repeatedly whetted by fantastic accounts of the experiences of others that I had witnessed. In the fall of 1956, after my graduation from the medical school, I was finally able to have my own LSD session. Dr. Roubíček’s area of special interest was research of the electrical activity of the brain. One of the conditions for participating in the LSD study was to agree to have an EEG recording taken before, during, and after the session. In addition, at the time of my session, he was particularly fascinated by what was called “driving” or “entraining” the brain waves. This involved exposure to various frequencies of a strong flashing stroboscopic light and finding out to what extent the brain waves in the suboccipital area of the brain (the optical cortex) could be “entrained,” that is, forced to pick up the incoming frequency. Eager to have the LSD experience, I readily agreed to have my EEG taken and my brain waves “driven.” My brother Paul, who was at that time a medical student and was also deeply interested in psychiatry, agreed to supervise my session. I started feeling the effects of LSD about forty-five minutes after the ingestion. At first, there was a feeling of slight malaise, lightheadedness, and nausea. Then these symptoms disappeared and were replaced by a fantastic display of incredibly colorful abstract and geometrical visions unfolding in rapid kaleidoscopic sequences. Some of them “resembled exquisite stained glass windows in medieval Gothic cathedrals, others arabesques from Muslim mosques. To describe the exquisite nature of these visions, I made references to Sheherezade and A Thousand and One Nights and to the stunning beauty of Alhambra and Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s fantastic description of Kubla Khan’s legendary Xanadu. At the time, these were the only associations I was able to make. Today, I believe that my psyche somehow managed to produce a wild array of fractal images, similar to the graphic representations of nonlinear equations that can be created by modern computers. As the session continued, my experience moved through and beyond this realm of exquisite aesthetic rapture and changed into an encounter and confrontation with my unconscious psyche. It is difficult to find words for the intoxicating fugue of emotions, visions, and illuminating insights into my life, and existence in general, that became available to me on this level of my psyche. It was so profound and shattering that it instantly overshadowed my previous interest in Freudian psychoanalysis. I could not believe how much I learned in those few hours. The breathtaking aesthetic feast and the rich plethora of psychological insights would have been sufficient in and of themselves to make my first encounter with LSD a truly memorable experience. However, all that paled in comparison with what was yet to come. Between the third and fourth hour of my session, when the effect of the LSD was culminating, Dr. Roubiček’s research assistant appeared and announced that it was time for the EEG experiment. She took me to a small room, carefully pasted electrodes on my scalp, and asked me to lie down and close my eyes. She then placed a giant stroboscopic light above my head and turned it on. The effects of the LSD immensely amplified the impact of the strobe and I was hit by a vision of light of incredible radiance and supernatural beauty. It made me think of the accounts of mystical experiences I had read about in spiritual literatures, in which the visions of divine light were compared with the incandescence of “millions of suns.” It crossed my mind that this was what it must have been like at the epicenter of the atomic explosions in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Today, I think it “it was more like Dharmakaya, or the Primary Clear Light, the luminosity of indescribable brilliance that, according to The Tibetan Book of the Dead, Bardo Thödol, appears to us at the moment of our death. I felt that a divine thunderbolt had catapulted my conscious self out of my body. I lost my awareness of the research assistant, the laboratory, the psychiatric clinic, Prague, and then the planet. My consciousness expanded at an inconceivable speed and reached cosmic dimensions. I lost the connection with my everyday identity. There were no more boundaries or difference between me and the universe. I felt that my old personality was extinguished and that I ceased to exist. And I felt that by becoming nothing, I became everything. The research assistant carefully followed her protocol for the experiment. She gradually shifted the frequency of the strobe from two to sixty hertz (frequencies per second) and back again, and then put it for a short time to the middle of the alpha band, theta band, and finally the delta band. While this was happening, I found myself at the center of a cosmic drama of unimaginable dimensions. In the astronomical literature that I read over the following years, I found names for some of the phenomena that seemed like what I experienced during those extraordinary ten minutes—the Big Bang, passage through black holes, white holes, and wormholes, as well as exploding supernovas and collapsing stars.” https://doi.org/10.1186/s40337-025-01274-2 https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/this-book-plunged-the-world-into-a-terrifying-obsession-with-satanic-cults-in-the-1980s-1.7031992 https://www.capitaldaily.ca/news/satanic-ritual-abuse-michelle-remembers-lawrence-pazder-victoria?wptouch_preview_theme=enabled https://theethicaltrip.beehiiv.com/p/the-phantom-certification-893e0d3f2407a534 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deeepbreaths.substack.com

    38 min
  6. 08/25/2025

    Quick Breather #3 - Synergistic Press, Buckminster Fuller, Myron Stolaroff, the Sequoia Seminars, Drawing it Out by Sherana Frances, Meduna’s mixture, Rachel Yehuda, Bessel van der Kolk, Gaza + Ben S

    This week I take the quick out of quick breather and talk for 39 minutes. Topics include Synergistic Press, Buckminster Fuller, Myron Stolaroff, the Sequoia Seminars, Drawing it Out by Sherana Frances, Meduna’s mixture, Rachel Yehuda, Bessel van der Kolk, Gaza and Ben Sessa. Links and screenshots are below in order for your further exploration… Please note, I do not cover Bessel van der Kolk's comments in depth, but I should highlight that he later apologised: “Van der Kolk sent an apology letter to participants, retracting his claim about the war in Gaza and tracing the reaction he shared to his early life. He was born in the Hague in 1943. “I want to express my deep regret for talking about what is happening in Gaza being equivalent to what the Nazis did in the 1940s,” he wrote. “It was a gratuitous, offensive, inaccurate and completely unnecessary comment, rooted in my own identification with children in bombed out cities during, and shortly after, World War II.” Also note that I went on the so-called “Birthright” trip in 2007. I was ignorant and regret going, though I did learn a lot. * Synergistic Press and Stolaroff https://online.ucpress.edu/ch/article-abstract/69/1/36/31895/Sequoia-Seminar-The-Sources-of-Religious?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://online.ucpress.edu/ch/article-abstract/69/1/36/31895/Sequoia-Seminar-The-Sources-of-Religious?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/medunas-mixture-surreal-ecstasy-or-perplexing-abreaction-psychiatry-in-history/676A1DF9DF23987A91BA6487A6470AF7 https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=80817&utm_ * Can you remember your birth on LSD? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00213-025-06771-5 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14793387/ I meant to quote from the preface to The Way of the Psychonaut, but I started reading from Holotropic Breathwork by accident and just went with it. Here’s the preface I meant to read: https://www.primals.org/articles/lake.html https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0022399978900454?via%3Dihub http://heidelpost.de/buecher/praenatale_psychologie/PP_PDF/PP_14_1-2_Kafkalides.pdf https://www.stangrof.com/images/joomgallery/interviews/PDF/Interview_-NovaConsciencia_Brazil.pdf * Rachel Yehuda and Omega Institute https://www.jta.org/2025/08/19/united-states/renowned-trauma-expert-bessel-van-der-kolk-banned-from-teaching-at-omega-institute-over-antisemitic-comments * Ben Sessa My complaint to the UK medical board re: Ben Sessa’s LinkedIn post from March 2025. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deeepbreaths.substack.com

    39 min

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