Deeply Intents

Apriori

Deeply Intents is a podcast hosted by Apriori. The primary objective is to have high quality yet interesting conversations with credible builders in and around the crypto industry.

  1. Monadvillainy - ThogardPvP

    5D AGO

    Monadvillainy - ThogardPvP

    In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with Alex Watts (ThogardPvP) from Fastlane. We begin the episode by discussing the concept of kingmaking in crypto ecosystems - why its important and the risks associated with king entrenching. Next we shift the conversation to the Monad central bank thesis as in the Monad Foundation using its treasury of MON to control yield via staking. Thereafter we shift the discussion towards risk curators and vaults exploring why they are popular. We finish the episode discussing enterprise adoption patterns and what is and what is not likely to work for institutions.  Timestamps  (00:00) - On Kingmakers  (03:07) - Annie are you okay?  (05:07) - VCs won't invest in 17 LSTs  (05:57) - Paradigm is the best Kingmaker in the business  (09:11) - Wealth creation event for native apps  (16:18) - The Kingmaker and application incentives  (21:29) - Preserve the ability for competition to disrupt incumbents  (27:13) - The Monad Central Bank thesis  (31:17) - This gonna sound really bad  (37:57) - Central banks are centralized  (45:02) - They're just professionals  (48:21) - Loop it and leave it  (52:24) - Programmatic interest rate policy  (54:40) - Whats up with vaults and risk curators  (57:07) - Glazing the curators  (1:02:13) - Institutional adoption  (1:03:11) - Prevailing view in crypto VC  (1:07:17) - What's important in the institutional game  (1:14:49) - Fast finality and short block times  (1:16:14) - RWAs have oracles, its nuanced  (1:22:53) - The island of misfit toys  (1:24:42) - Ethereum is the silver of crypto DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 28m
  2. Take Me To Your Leader - Alex Watts

    FEB 9

    Take Me To Your Leader - Alex Watts

    In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with Alex Watts (ThogardPvP), Co-founder and CEO of Fastlane. We start by breaking down Fastlane's recent deal with Chainlink for their product Atlas—ThogardPvP walks through how it was structured and who actually got paid (spoiler: no one got rich). From there, we get into the emerging trend of acquihires and licensing deals in crypto and why they might be setting venture investing back. That leads us into a broader conversation about the two types of founders in tech: those who are genuinely mission-driven versus those treating "founder" as a career path for status and quick extraction. We also talk about why right now might be the best time for VCs to allocate to crypto, before closing out with a tour through Silicon Valley history—military-industrial spending, the case for a DARPA for crypto, and what it means to be a gardener in Ethereum's infinite garden. Timestamps (00:00) - Founder and CEO of Fastlane (01:27) - Chainlink acquires Atlas (06:32) - The way the deal was structured (12:12) - No one got rich off the deal (16:39) - Oppose the license and aquihire model (21:53) - This is what regulations are for (26:03) - Focused on Monad (27:50) - Founders make a choice (29:30) - A little bit of a tangent (31:10) - Things startup founders say (34:57) - Not all VCs are the same (39:15) - The sociopaths are scamming in AI right now (42:15) - Best time to allocate capital to crypto is now (45:18) - It's difficult to not be dumb (46:33) - Piero Scaruffi's "A History of Silicon Valley" (49:00) - Internet Capital Markets (51:31) - Garden Curator to King Maker DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    54 min
  3. Forbidden Controller Lore [Real] - Isaac Sheff & Christopher Goes

    JAN 30

    Forbidden Controller Lore [Real] - Isaac Sheff & Christopher Goes

    Is interop finally solved? In this episode of Deeply Intents I chat with Isaac Sheff (Senior Research Scientist) and Christopher Goes (o-founder) of Heliax about the Anoma protocol and explore how Anoma thinks about interop. In particular we discuss Isaac's research on Controllers [the authoritative state machine that orders transactions for a resource, preventing double-spends]. We begin the episode discussing Isaac's background as a consensus researcher and his prior work on Heterogeneous Paxos. We then dive into controllers and compare them to IBC, and discuss we you need different trust models for blockchains, databases, and computers. Thereafter the episode gets quite technical as we discuss the nuances of Anoma's resource model, controller tags, and next concepts called shared & causal resource history. Next we explore how controllers utilize ZK proofs for tag reduction and attestation. Finally we discuss the novel emergency override condition which one can think of as a generalization of Plasma (Ethereum), how controllers unlock private bridging, and the affordances they provide application builders who want to build distributed applications. Timestamps (00:00) - Consensus researchers (04:26) - What are controllers? (08:50) - Product perspective and revisiting IBC (12:52) - Why you need different trust models (19:24) - Unbundling ordering, execution & storage (24:30) - The Anoma state model is based on resources (29:03) - Controller Tags and double spends (34:34) - Shared and Causal Resource History (36:53) - Controllers are different than IBC (40:13) - You get interop for free (43:05) - Controllers love ZK (47:34) - Controllers and trust assumptions (50:45) - Emergency override condition (EOC) (56:10) - Generalization of Plasma (58:50) - Controller interop with existing EVM chains (1:03:09) - Intents in Ethereum (1:04:22) - Private bridging (1:06:33) - Affordances for application designers (1:10:17) - Blockchains can be useful for more than finance DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 12m
  4. Some Builder Musings - Dino

    JAN 16

    Some Builder Musings - Dino

    Why does crypto keep throwing money at attention instead of products? In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with Dino, Co-founder of Fluent. We kick off with Dino's background and why he's learned never to bet against developer ingenuity, then get into the weeds on crypto fundraising strategies including what works, what doesn't, and where discipline matters. From there, we dissect crypto's obsession with attention and whether reputation systems can offer a real solution. We also explore Fluent's blended execution environment, touching on the history of WASM experiments and why product focus is valuable in the ecosystem. We wrap up with Dino's philosophy on building a company by exploring what an ideal idea meritocracy actually looks like and why he's chosen to build on Ethereum. Timestamps (00:00) - Don't bet against developer ingenuity (04:46) - Give people skin in the game (08:25) - Discipline in fundraising (16:27) - One way decisions (22:11) - Real recognizes real (25:46) - The industry's obsession with attention (28:19) - Reputation (33:12) - Reputation checks and balances (37:14) - Is reputation game-able? (44:44) - WASM experiments (46:23) - multi-VM products (52:14) - Product focus in the ecosystem (55:50) - Reflections on building a company (58:48) - Idea meritocracy (1:04:59) - Building on Ethereum DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 8m
  5. Master of Puppets - Dan Gray

    JAN 13

    Master of Puppets - Dan Gray

    In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with Dan Gray from Credistick. We cover a ton of ground on what venture capital actually is, how it works, and where the space is headed. We kick off by breaking down the basics of VC and the ripple effects of the low interest rate environment after the financial crisis, then move into megafund strategies (sometimes called smart beta). From there, we dig into VC compensation, fund performance metrics and incentives, and how exits actually work. We also explore how secondary transactions are changing exit liquidity for investors and employees, plus equity crowdfunding as a way to let everyday people get in on seed-stage deals. Things get really interesting when Dan explains how memes influence capital flows and why megafund strategies work so well. We wrap up by talking about the challenges facing new emerging managers and some compelling AI-related investment theses. Timestamps (00:00) - Finding the missing puzzle piece (02:29) - VC is not competitive (05:09) - What is venture capital? (08:14) - Consequences of low interest rates (11:49) - Concentrated bets (16:29) - Megafund strategy - smart beta (19:04) - VC compensation (22:34) - Fund performance metrics and incentives (26:49) - Fragile proposition for founders (29:50) - One pivot is better than none (33:17) - VC exits (36:09) - Secondary transactions (42:00) - Retail exit liquidity (45:45) - Equity crowd funding (51:14) - Memes influence the flow of capital (55:16) - Megafund strategy is so good (1:00:11) - Government LPs can help smaller funds (1:02:05) - Emerging fund manager tactics (1:05:22) - Interesting theses connected to AI DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 8m
  6. ACE of Trades - Ludwig Thouvenin

    12/25/2025

    ACE of Trades - Ludwig Thouvenin

    Why does onchain liquidity matter, and what would it take to build a DEX that actually competes with centralized venues? In this episode, I sit down with Ludwig Thouvenin, Co-founder & CEO at Sorella Labs, to unpack Angstrom and the case for rethinking DEX design from first principles. We start with what drew Ludwig to MEV and DEX design in the first place. From there, we discuss Brontes, Sorella's open-source MEV analysis tool, and the impact it's had on the research community. We then break down Angstrom's architecture, topology, and affordances, including the nuances of how its mechanisms differ on L1 versus L2. Ludwig makes the case for why onchain liquidity matters and why lit venues are essential to healthy market structure. We close by discussing the future of ACE, the importance of privacy in onchain trading, and Ludwig's learnings as a first-time founder. (00:00) - Solving CEX-DEX, LVR, and sandwiches (01:32) - University days (05:06) - MEV nerdsnipe (09:57) - LVR (12:44) - Toxic flow problem (14:57) - Competing with arbitrageurs (17:02) - Brontes learnings (18:22) - Why people JIT (22:28) - Spinning the cybernetic wheel (24:28) - Angstrom & capital efficient LP strategies (30:03) - Angstrom's architecture & topology (33:26) - Robustness of the mechanisms (37:36) - Inclusion gaurantees (40:52) - Why not Angstrom L2? (43:43) - Compossability with ACE (45:37) - Bidding through priority fees on L2 (49:18) - Issuance and tokenization will drive volume (51:42) - Setting the standards and dealing with forks (53:30) - Lit venues (56:46) - Product learnings (1:00:18) - Highest impact upgrades for Ethereum (1:03:32) - The future of ACE (1:05:35) - Changes Ethereum should not make (1:08:10) - Privacy is essential (1:10:44) - Grit and delusional confidence (1:14:39) - Degen Spartan  DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 16m
  7. Cross-Chain Money Legos - Orest Tarasiuk

    12/19/2025

    Cross-Chain Money Legos - Orest Tarasiuk

    What would it actually take to make Ethereum's rollups composable like smart contracts on a single chain? In this episode, I sit down with Orest Tarasiuk, CTO at t1 Protocol, to unpack how t1 is tackling Ethereum's fragmentation problem with Real-Time Proofs and TEE-based infrastructure. We begin by discussing Orest's background as an entrepreneur across three startups, from digestive health apps to video calling. Next, we unpack his interop thesis and how t1 aims to solve Ethereum's composability and fragmentation problems. Thereafter, we discuss Real-Time Proofs, TEEs, and security, including t1's innovative value at risk counter. We then dive into encrypted mempools and solving capital efficiency for cross-chain intent solvers. We finish the episode by discussing t1's same block deposit-trade-withdraw flow and what it's been like collaborating on interoperability standards with the Ethereum community.   Timestamps (00:00) - Freedom maxi to startup founder arc (04:01) - Startup helping people with digestive disease [Cara Care] (06:01) - Kraken-Mt.Gox arbitrage (08:15) - Founding a video calling app [Knit] (10:39) - Time at Scroll (13:34) - Founding t1 (15:32) - Interop thesis (17:43) - Reading L1 from L2 (26:33) - What t1 offers end users and developers (33:15) - Security, trust assumptions, determinism (38:53) - The VAR counter, high demand, finality (43:57) - Inspiration for the VAR counter (46:00) - Security budget in AVS systems (49:53) - t1 Sequencing AVS and architecture (54:32) - Challenges with encrypted mempools (57:14) - Different cryptographic primitives under the hood (1:00:45) - Solving capital efficiency for solvers (1:04:27) - Applications that leverage t1 (1:09:23) - Same block deposit-trade-withdraw flow (1:15:59) - Collaborating on Ethereum interop standards DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 20m
  8. The Institutions are Coming - Noah Pravecek

    12/15/2025

    The Institutions are Coming - Noah Pravecek

    What does real interoperability actually look like and why might the industry be solving the wrong problems? In this episode, I sit down with Noah Pravecek from ZKsync to explore the evolving landscape of L2 composability, enterprise adoption, and where crypto is actually headed. Noah shares lessons from his previous work on shared sequencing and synchronous composability, and how ZKsync's network approach differs, particularly through Prividiums and their enterprise thesis. We dig into why RWAs are commanding so much attention right now and what that signals for the future. We also swap Devconnect takeaways, discuss the L1 premium question, speculate on what Ethereum can do to improve UX and how to avoid getting nerdsniped by the wrong priorities. Timestamps (00:00) - Working on synchronous composability (04:52) - Reflections on shared sequencers (08:56) - Network of enterprise chains (12:27) - Institutional thesis (14:16) - Onchain capital formation (18:27) - Scaling Ethereum's liquidity (24:49) - RWAs as collateral (28:48) - Different kinds of RWAs (32:35) - Devconnect takeaways (41:39) - Onchain credit markets (45:31) - infoFi applications (49:05) - L1 Premium will fade over time (54:37) - Staying ahead of the innovation curve (56:43) - It takes a village (59:04) - Ethereum should focus on improving UX (1:02:10) - Synchronous composability nerdsnipe DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.

    1h 5m
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Deeply Intents is a podcast hosted by Apriori. The primary objective is to have high quality yet interesting conversations with credible builders in and around the crypto industry.

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  • Creator
    Apriori
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    41
  • Rating
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