Different at Work

Andrew Sanders and Flo LaBrado

Hosts Andrew and Flo discuss what neurodivergence in the workplace looks like through their real-life examples. They are both high-achieving adults, having served in leadership roles in a Fortune 100 company, driving successful and high performing teams. Andrew suffered through undiagnosed ADHD until he received his diagnosis later in life, while Flo is currently an ICF-accredited leadership coach with many neurodivergent clients. They worked together closely for many years; as friends and colleagues, they started Different at Work so that the next generation of leaders can learn from their often deeply personal examples. Note: Different at Work shares lived experience and general information; it is not medical, mental health, legal, or employment advice.

Episodes

  1. Sep 25

    Blind Spots

    In this episode, Andrew and Flo discuss potential blind spots that a neurodivergent leader may experience. These are things that need careful handling or correction, about which you are likely unaware. Flo gives some thoughts about how to check your blindbspots and mitigate impacts to your teams, and Andrew provides personal reflections on how his ADHD impacted his career and the people entrusted to his leadership. Chapters (00:00:01) - Introduction: Turning the Camera to Neurodivergent Leaders(00:02:57) - Blind Spot: Hiring Bias in Interviews(00:03:42) - Blind Spot: Projecting Personal Accommodations as Team Norms(00:04:56) - Power Dynamics and Leader-Set Defaults(00:08:50) - Affinity Bias and Communication Preferences(00:11:33) - Direct Communication Styles and Individual Needs(00:13:08) - Reflecting on Flexing Communication Post-Diagnosis(00:14:44) - Hyper Focus as a Leadership Blind Spot(00:17:06) - Interrupting Hyper Focus and Employee Fairness(00:18:57) - Post-Diagnosis Reckoning: Real Me vs. Workarounds(00:22:27) - Miranda Priestly Example: Learning Through Observed Behavior(00:24:58) - Retail Story: Unspoken Norms and Culture(00:26:39) - Balancing Leader Needs and Team Accommodations(00:29:47) - Strategies: Checking Blind Spots and Feedback(00:30:53) - Professional Development Board of Advisors(00:32:59) - Psychological Safety and Intentional Processes(00:36:06) - Wrap Up and Closing ThoughtsDifferent At Work shares lived experience and general information; it is not medical, mental health, legal, or employment advice. Links to helpful resources and other content can be found on our website at www.differentatwork.com.

  2. Sep 12

    Excluded at Work

    For a lot of neurodivergent people, sensory stuff like smell or noise isn’t a preference. It’s a wall. Andrew and Flo talk about the quiet ways teams leave people out, like the restaurant nobody asked about or the norm nobody explained, and how to build belonging on purpose. (Note: No seafood was harmed in the making of this episode.) Chapters (00:00:01) - Introduction to Different at Work(00:00:30) - Defining Teamwork vs. Groups(00:03:50) - Multiple Teams We Belong To(00:05:45) - Feeling Connected When Neurodivergent(00:07:03) - Being Misread as Disengaged(00:08:30) - In-Group vs. Out-Group Feelings(00:09:26) - Exclusion Through Social Gatherings(00:12:29) - Group Dynamics: Roles, Norms, Cohesion(00:14:48) - Novelty, Structure, and Team Tasks(00:16:34) - A Personal Example of Miscommunication(00:18:24) - Building Intentional Belonging(00:20:07) - Fixing Exclusionary Social Practices(00:22:44) - Making Norms Explicit(00:24:53) - Onboarding and Understanding Individual Needs(00:27:50) - Whose Responsibility Is Belonging?(00:30:27) - Self-Organizing Roles Without a Manager(00:31:59) - Avoiding Forced Inclusion(00:34:26) - Pandemic Camera Example and Sensory Needs(00:37:47) - Planning Team Building Thoughtfully(00:40:59) - Wrap-Up and Key Strategies(00:42:22) - Closing Notes and ResourcesDifferent At Work shares lived experience and general information; it is not medical, mental health, legal, or employment advice. Links to helpful resources and other content can be found on our website at www.differentatwork.com.

  3. Aug 19

    Today's Secret Word is...

    Today’s secret word is “Trust.” Andrew and Flo discuss the potential risks and benefits of disclosing a neurodivergence diagnosis in the workplace, and what signs to look for when weighing that decision. Risks include navigating stigmas and stereotypes, dealing with rejection, and the permanence of discloser. Benefits include an optimized workplace that reduces stress and promotes overall well-being. Trust-building competencies and frameworks and the responsibilities of leaders are also discussed. Resources: The Thin Book of Trust by Charles Feltman (audiobook edition) Chapters (00:00:01) - Intro to Different at Work(00:00:47) - The Dilemma of Disclosing a Diagnosis(00:01:49) - RSD, Stigma, and ADHD Superpowers(00:03:54) - Whose Responsibility Is Disclosure?(00:06:05) - Trust, Oversharing, and Vulnerability(00:09:14) - Sharing Needs vs Sharing Diagnosis(00:11:11) - Power and Leadership's Role in Trust(00:12:26) - Feltman's Four Dimensions of Trust(00:14:54) - Leadership Tone from the Top Down(00:16:31) - The Cost of Not Disclosing(00:18:32) - Story: The Autistic Colleague Who Disclosed(00:20:44) - Missed Signs: The OCD Employee Example(00:23:37) - Noticing the Person, Not Just Output(00:26:24) - Trust as a Piggy Bank Analogy(00:28:09) - Black-and-White Trust and Repair(00:29:24) - Timing and Care After Disclosure(00:35:09) - Managing vs Leading(00:37:19) - Practical Steps: Testing Trust Safely(00:37:46) - Closing Thoughts and ResourcesDifferent At Work shares lived experience and general information; it is not medical, mental health, legal, or employment advice. Links to helpful resources and other content can be found on our website at www.differentatwork.com.

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Hosts Andrew and Flo discuss what neurodivergence in the workplace looks like through their real-life examples. They are both high-achieving adults, having served in leadership roles in a Fortune 100 company, driving successful and high performing teams. Andrew suffered through undiagnosed ADHD until he received his diagnosis later in life, while Flo is currently an ICF-accredited leadership coach with many neurodivergent clients. They worked together closely for many years; as friends and colleagues, they started Different at Work so that the next generation of leaders can learn from their often deeply personal examples. Note: Different at Work shares lived experience and general information; it is not medical, mental health, legal, or employment advice.