Disrupt Education Podcast

Disrupt Education Podcast

Disrupt Education began in 2015 when Peter Hostrawser, inspired by an EF Tour to Europe, saw students reimagine education and heard Sir Ken Robinson challenge the status quo. This sparked Peter’s mission to rethink the stagnant system. The podcast shares diverse stories from learners, educators, and EdTech innovators, offering fresh perspectives and pushing boundaries to create an education system that truly empowers students. Join Peter Hostrawser and co-host Alli Dahl today!

  1. 419 Education's Zero-to-One Moment - pega6 Series Episode 4

    JAN 28

    419 Education's Zero-to-One Moment - pega6 Series Episode 4

    Episode 4 is the pause-and-process moment after a truly disruptive series. Peter and Alli step back to unpack the emotional, mental, and professional reactions sparked by the pega6 conversation. This episode isn’t about selling a model — it’s about acknowledging the discomfort that comes when a system you trusted, went through, and maybe even thrived in… starts to crack. They explore why failure is still treated as something to avoid in education, how perfection quietly kills progress, and why the hardest part of disruption isn’t the model — it’s the zero-to-one mindset shift required to even consider it. From chemistry labs to internships, pull-ups to professional growth, this episode connects the dots between experiential learning, real-time coaching, intentional friction, and what it actually takes to prepare learners for a fast-moving, AI-driven workforce. Big questions tackled: - Why does disrupting education trigger fear and nostalgia at the same time?- What does “workforce engineering” really mean — and why does it make people uncomfortable?- Why high engagement and accountability still require humans, not systems- How zero-to-one learning shows up everywhere, not just careers This is the episode for educators, parents, and leaders who felt something during the series — even if they didn’t fully agree with it yet. If you came this far... head to www.pega6.com/dep You won't be disappointed! Check out www.disrupteducationpodcast.com for more!

    47 min
  2. 417 Workforce Engineering for the AI Age - pega6 Series Episode 2

    JAN 14

    417 Workforce Engineering for the AI Age - pega6 Series Episode 2

    After lighting up the college model in Episode 1, Peter and Alli come back with the real question: if higher ed is broken… what replaces it? Jeremy Smith (PEGA6 co-founder/CEO) answers with one phrase that frames the entire episode: workforce engineering. Jeremy argues that education shouldn’t be treated like a pipeline where students just get moved along. It should be treated like a supply chain where value is added at every stage—because the goal is not “school completion,” it’s readiness for the next step. And in his model, the customer isn’t the student (even though they pay)—the customer is the employer, because that’s where the best jobs and opportunities get decided. From there, Jeremy breaks “job-ready” into three non-negotiables for the AI age: Technical Skills — not “theory,” but real, usable tools and mechanics of the job (he references things like industry tools and workflows). Soft Skills — communication, professionalism, managing up, teamwork—the things that make people actually promotable and trusted. AI-First Approach — not just knowing AI tools, but thinking AI-first to accelerate work, then finishing with human judgment and technical fundamentals. Then the conversation gets spicy again—in the best way: Jeremy calls out the “college builds critical thinking” claim as a myth, arguing real critical thinking is a concrete set of skills (biases, logic, stats, fallacies) that most students aren’t systematically taught. Alli challenges the framing: “Are we just building workers? What about leaders?” Jeremy’s answer is timing: optimize for the next step first, then build leadership later through real experience (and future “Pegas7”-type progression). Peter hits the big fear word: pigeonholing. Jeremy flips it—being “open to everything” but skilled at nothing isn’t optionality; being skilled creates mobility. And the solution for students who don’t know their path is better “routing” earlier—he directly connects this to aptitude/fit tools like YouScience. The episode ends with a clean cliffhanger: next week they go inside PEGA6—how it’s being built, what the accelerator experience looks like, and how close it is to launch. If you came this far... head to www.pega6.com/dep You won't be disappointed!

    1h 3m
  3. 416 University Slayer: Higher Ed's Tipping Point - pega6 Series Episode 1

    JAN 7

    416 University Slayer: Higher Ed's Tipping Point - pega6 Series Episode 1

    Welcome to 2026 — and the Disrupt Education Podcast’s 10th year — with one word leading the charge: Bold. Peter and Alli kick off a brand-new 4-part series with Jeremy Smith, founder and CEO of PEGA6, and he doesn’t tiptoe into the conversation… he kicks the door in. Jeremy shares his path from investment banking and multiple startup exits to building what he calls a totally new kind of higher ed: a one-year, $15K, career accelerator designed for the AI age. His claim is simple and explosive: the only thing most universities reliably provide is a “stamp,” not real readiness. Students leave with debt, time lost, and too often no practical skills—while employers are stuck spending the first year turning new hires from zero to one. From there, the episode gets real: Jeremy argues universities only lower prices when forced by real competition (and he believes universities can’t compete with a faster, cheaper, experiential model). He breaks down who gets harmed by the status quo (parents, students, employers… basically everyone) and who benefits (universities). He connects the entry-level job squeeze to a brutal reality: AI tools don’t have to be amazing to replace grads—because many grads show up unprepared. The conversation also hits a key instructional truth you and I both love: skills only develop through doing. Jeremy uses the bike-riding analogy to torch the lecture-test-textbook model for skill-building, pushing “just-in-time fundamentals” after failure and experience—not frontloaded theory. The episode ends by teasing Part 2: Workforce Engineering, and Jeremy’s belief that education should function less like a pipeline and more like a supply chain—starting with what employers actually need and building backward from there. This isn’t a polite conversation about education reform. It’s a blueprint to burn down a broken model and build something that actually prepares students to win alongside AI. If you came this far... head to www.pega6.com/dep You won't be disappointed!

    1h 2m
  4. 415 Student Voice, CTE, Aptitudes & Impact: Our Biggest Shifts in 2025

    12/31/2025

    415 Student Voice, CTE, Aptitudes & Impact: Our Biggest Shifts in 2025

    What a year. 🎙 In this special New Year’s episode of the Disrupt Education Podcast, Peter Hostrawser and Alli Dahl look back on 2025 – the year disrupting education stopped being “spicy” and started becoming the norm. They unpack: How the podcast crossed 400+ episodes and over half a million downloads, and why it still feels like a movement more than a show Why 2025 felt like education finally catching fire – with more CTE leaders, WBL innovators, and classroom “doers” stepping up and sharing what actually works The impact of the student summer series (Liam, Isaac, Abby, Lindsay, and Derek) and how their honest stories exposed where the system drops learners The global-to-local arc: EduVitality with Kristy Volesky State-level transformation with Dr. Gary Skeen in Virginia District and academy models with Scott Carr and Jeff Stenroos Human-centered change with Dr. Karen Baptiste (Dr. K) and teacher efficacy How partnering with YouScience and running a 6-part series on aptitudes, exposure gaps, and economic development reframed everything from “pipelines” to pathways with on- and off-ramps Why language, mindset, and individual aptitudes matter more than ever for students and educators Stories from Peter’s own internship students and his kids that show how young people are already thinking differently about college, cost, and career Peter and Alli close the year with gratitude for the Disrupt Education community – teachers, parents, students, leaders – and a promise: 2026 is going to be bolder, messier, and even more real. If you care about where school is going next, this recap sets the stage.Check out www.disrupteducationpodcast.com for more!

    52 min
  5. 414 Teachers, AI, and the End of Business-as-Usual School

    12/24/2025

    414 Teachers, AI, and the End of Business-as-Usual School

    What if the real disruption in education isn’t a new program… but how we use time, teachers, and tech? In this Disrupt Education recap episode, Alli Dahl and Peter Hostrawser unpack the big ideas from their conversation with Kristy Volesky and Jeff Frost, authors of CTE Reimagined: The Blueprint for Education’s Future—and then push them even further. In this episode, Alli and Peter dive into: Why traditional school structures are brokenRethinking 18-week semesters, quarters, and “one pace for everyone” – and what happens when a student finishes meaningful work in 3 weeks instead of 18. AI vs. controlling classroomsHow AI will expose and replace lecture-heavy, compliance-driven teaching – and why the teachers who refuse to loosen control will struggle the most. CTE as the vehicle for reimagining ALL of educationFrom “pipelines” that produce workers to pathways with on- and off-ramps that let students pivot, explore, and design nonlinear careers. Teachers as the untapped superpowerWhy real change won’t just come from superintendents or state leaders—and how using tools like YouScience aptitudes for educators could help reassign roles, break silos, and build truly student-centered teams. Experiences are greater than lecturesPeter and Alli share stories from real classrooms, internships, and college projects that students actually remember—and how that connects directly to the CTE Reimagined vision. A challenge for 2026 and beyond Letting go of ego, fear, and tradition. Embracing messy, human, high-impact learning. And using this “off-season” (even winter break) to level up how we serve students. If you’re a CTE leader, classroom teacher, counselor, admin, or just someone who knows school has to evolve, this recap will give you fuel, language, and a healthy dose of “let’s go” energy. Head to www.disrupteducationpodcast.com for more!

    44 min
4.5
out of 5
16 Ratings

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Disrupt Education began in 2015 when Peter Hostrawser, inspired by an EF Tour to Europe, saw students reimagine education and heard Sir Ken Robinson challenge the status quo. This sparked Peter’s mission to rethink the stagnant system. The podcast shares diverse stories from learners, educators, and EdTech innovators, offering fresh perspectives and pushing boundaries to create an education system that truly empowers students. Join Peter Hostrawser and co-host Alli Dahl today!