Distinguished | Hospitality Leadership Podcast with Dean Upneja

BU School of Hospitality Administration

What does it take to lead in one of the world's most dynamic industries? Distinguished brings you unfiltered conversations with the executives, founders, general managers, and investors who are shaping the future of global hospitality.    Hosted by Dean Arun Upneja of Boston University's School of Hospitality Administration, each episode goes beyond the headlines to tackle the real challenges facing hospitality leaders today from hotel operations and restaurant innovation to talent management, climate action, and the rise of AI and robotics across the industry.  Our guests represent every corner of hospitality: luxury hotels, independent restaurants, travel and tourism, entertainment venues, and more. They bring hard-won insight, bold ideas, and the kind of candor you won't find in a boardroom.    Whether you're a seasoned hospitality professional, an emerging leader, or simply passionate about the industry, Distinguished is your front-row seat to the conversations that matter.    Follow Distinguished on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen and join a growing community of hospitality leaders who never stop learning. 

  1. MAR 27

    Putting Philoxenia into Practice with Demetri Tsolakis, CEO of Xenia Greek Hospitality

    Demetri Tsolakis, CEO of Xenia Greek Hospitality, reflected on a powerful, yet often forgotten idea: hospitality is not a transaction, but a human obligation. Drawing from the ancient Greek philosophy of philoxenia, Tsolakis described hospitality as the act of turning a stranger into a friend, an approach that shapes every decision across his restaurants.  The discussion also explored how this philosophy extends behind the scenes. Tsolakis shared his people-first approach to leadership, emphasizing personality over résumés, storytelling over scripts, and empowerment over micromanagement. By investing in education, trust, and creative freedom, he enables teams to act with ownership and authenticity.  As the interview made clear, hospitality done right is not only about speed, rules or efficiency; it is about emotion, connection, and care. In an increasingly transactional world, Tsolakis’s perspective offers a compelling reminder that the most memorable experiences begin with how people are made to feel.  Email us at shadean@bu.edu The “Distinguished” podcast is produced by Boston University School of Hospitality Administration.  Host: Arun Upneja, Dean Producer: Mara Littman, Executive Director of Strategic Operations and Corporate Relations Research: Lu Lan Editing: Isabella Laikin Sound Engineer: Andrew Hallock Music: “Airport Lounge" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

    41 min
  2. JAN 5

    The Cycles Are the Opportunity: Ian Livingstone on Crises, Capital, and Long-Game Real Estate

    What do you do when the real estate market collapses?  If you’re Ian Livingstone, you buy.  In this episode of Distinguished, Dean Arun Upneja speaks with Ian Livingstone, the co-founder of London & Regional Properties, one of the UK’s largest private real estate groups, about what it really takes to build a £12 billion global empire, through booms, crashes, and everything in between.  Livingstone shares how he went from running 170 optician stores to reshaping urban skylines; why crisis moments create once-in-a-generation opportunities; and how he’s built cities like Panama Pacifico, where 20,000+ homes, schools, and commercial districts grew from a single idea and decades of patience.  A candid, behind-the-curtain conversation on timing, conviction, distressed assets, hospitality real estate, and why the future of leisure and experience-driven travel still holds unmatched potential, even in the age of AI.    Email us at shadean@bu.edu The “Distinguished” podcast is produced by Boston University School of Hospitality Administration.  Host: Arun Upneja, Dean Producer: Mara Littman, Executive Director of Strategic Operations and Corporate Relations Research: Lu Lan Editing: Isabella Laikin Sound Engineer: Andrew Hallock Music: “Airport Lounge" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

    38 min
  3. 11/21/2025

    The Heart of Hospitality: Bashar Wali on Emotion, Belonging, and What AI Can’t Replace

    Most leaders talk about transforming hospitality. Bashar Wali actually walked away from a $150 million hotel portfolio to do it. The founder of This Assembly, Wali is building a new kind of hospitality ecosystem, one centered on emotion, belonging, and human connection rather than automation and efficiency. In this episode, Dean Arun Upneja speaks with Wali about why the future of hospitality isn’t just digital, but deeply human. From challenging the idea that loyalty can be bought with points to exploring how AI should enhance emotional intelligence, Wali urges leaders to rethink what makes hotels truly memorable.  A celebrated thought leader and frequent speaker at BU SHA, Wali is known for his powerful TED Talk on why “humanity matters more than material luxuries” and for his keynote at the 2024 BU Hospitality Leadership Summit. With more than 20 years of leadership experience at companies like Wyndham International, Starwood, and Provenance Hotels, he continues to inspire the industry with his conviction that hospitality isn’t a transaction; it’s a feeling. And in an AI-driven world, that feeling may be the most valuable asset of all.  Email us at shadean@bu.edu The “Distinguished” podcast is produced by Boston University School of Hospitality Administration.  Host: Arun Upneja, Dean Producer: Mara Littman, Executive Director of Strategic Operations and Corporate Relations Research: Lu Lan Editing: Isabella Laikin Sound Engineer: Andrew Hallock Music: “Airport Lounge" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

    49 min
  4. 08/04/2025

    Amanda Hyndman, Chief Operating Officer of Mandarin Oriental: Redefining Luxury from the Inside Out

    Imagine walking through the gilded corridors of a legendary hotel—where service feels like an art form, and every guest isn’t just remembered, but known.  Amanda Hyndman has helped shape one of the world’s most admired hotel brands. Beginning her journey with Mandarin Oriental nearly 20 years ago as a general manager, she has built meaningful, memorable guest experiences. Her 2023 appointment as Chief People & Culture Officer underscored Mandarin Oriental’s belief that its people are key stakeholders in the luxury experience. And now, as Chief Operating Officer, she oversees the entire guest journey across continents, blending intuition with precision, and heritage with innovation.  In this episode, Amanda reveals the three essential components of true luxury. Tune it to discover how to embed more “TLC” into every customer experience:  Time – the freedom to simply be Locale (shelter) – a setting where you feel safe, seen, and at ease Care – receiving what your heart desires before you even ask Video and audio production: Jaison Jose of Cocoon Media  Email us at shadean@bu.edu The “Distinguished” podcast is produced by Boston University School of Hospitality Administration.  Host: Arun Upneja, Dean Producer: Mara Littman, Executive Director of Strategic Operations and Corporate Relations Research: Lu Lan Editing: Isabella Laikin Sound Engineer: Andrew Hallock Music: “Airport Lounge" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

    37 min
  5. 12/19/2024

    George Poll on Building Distinctive Dining Experiences from Long Island to Miami

    George Poll has spent decades building some of Long Island’s most celebrated restaurants. Alongside his brother, he’s crafted iconic dining experiences from Bryant & Cooper Steakhouse to Toku Modern Asian, blending culinary creativity with sharp business acumen. Recently, George took his expertise to Miami, where the journey to open Toku wasn’t exactly smooth sailing—facing all the challenges that come with launching in a new city.  This episode is a masterclass in the fine balance between tradition and innovation, the intense planning behind every design choice, and the hurdles that come with launching each new restaurant. Through stories of teamwork, resilience, and a relentless drive to improve, George offers listeners an unfiltered look inside the restaurant business. George Poll is an alumnus of BU School of Hospitality Administration’s first graduating class and serves on the school’s Dean’s Advisory Board member. George also played on BU’s football team, which is no longer, but that story is for another podcast!  Email us at shadean@bu.edu The “Distinguished” podcast is produced by Boston University School of Hospitality Administration.  Host: Arun Upneja, Dean Producer: Mara Littman, Executive Director of Strategic Operations and Corporate Relations Research: Lu Lan Editing: Isabella Laikin Sound Engineer: Andrew Hallock Music: “Airport Lounge" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

    39 min
5
out of 5
8 Ratings

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What does it take to lead in one of the world's most dynamic industries? Distinguished brings you unfiltered conversations with the executives, founders, general managers, and investors who are shaping the future of global hospitality.    Hosted by Dean Arun Upneja of Boston University's School of Hospitality Administration, each episode goes beyond the headlines to tackle the real challenges facing hospitality leaders today from hotel operations and restaurant innovation to talent management, climate action, and the rise of AI and robotics across the industry.  Our guests represent every corner of hospitality: luxury hotels, independent restaurants, travel and tourism, entertainment venues, and more. They bring hard-won insight, bold ideas, and the kind of candor you won't find in a boardroom.    Whether you're a seasoned hospitality professional, an emerging leader, or simply passionate about the industry, Distinguished is your front-row seat to the conversations that matter.    Follow Distinguished on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen and join a growing community of hospitality leaders who never stop learning. 

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