DiveIn: Diving into Special Education's Most Complex and Pressing Debates

Federico R. Waitoller
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Join Dr. Federico Waitoller for DiveIn, the podcast that explores the most complex and pressing debates in Special Education. Sponsored by the Division of Research of the Council for Exceptional Children, this series tackles critical and timely topics, including current policy debates, instructional design, disciplinary disparities, school choice, workforce diversity, and funding disparities. DiveIn does not shy away from tough conversations. Through thought-provoking discussions with experts and changemakers, DiveIn will challenge your current perspectives and deepen your understanding, offering actionable insights to drive equity in special education teaching, research, and policy. Tune in and be part of the movement to transform special education through an equity-driven lens. Are you ready? Let's DiveIn!

  1. 13h ago

    Trailer Season 4

    This is the trailer for Season 4 of Dive in and the new series on inclusive education

    4 min

  2. 14h ago

    An old episode to start a new series: Inclusive Education with Maya Kalyanpur

    As we gear up for DiveIn's upcoming season 4 and a new series on inclusive education, we're revisiting a conversation that offers the perfect starting point: a global perspective on inclusion, disability, and educational equity. In this episode, Federico talks with Maya Kalyanpur, professor in the Department of Teaching and Learning at the University of San Diego. Dr. Kalyanpur began her career teaching children with intellectual disabilities in India, served as an advisor on inclusive education to Cambodia's Ministry of Education, and has conducted research throughout South Asia and the United States. Together, they explore: What we mean when we talk about the Global South and why the term is more political than geographicHow disability and inclusion are understood differently across cultural contextsWhy educational models developed in the United States and other Western countries do not always translate well to other parts of the worldThe tensions between international inclusion policies and local knowledgeLessons from India and other countries about community, family, work, and disabilityHow educational systems can unintentionally create new forms of exclusion while attempting to promote inclusionWhat scholars and practitioners in the United States can learn from the Global SouthWhy humility, collaboration, and listening to communities are essential for advancing equity in special education Throughout the conversation, Dr. Kalyanpur challenges us to rethink some of the assumptions we take for granted about disability, schooling, independence, and inclusion. Rather than exporting solutions from the Global North, she argues for building educational systems that emerge from the cultural values, histories, and lived experiences of local communities. As DiveIn prepares to launch its new series on inclusive education, this episode provides an important reminder: before debating how inclusion should happen, we need to ask whose perspectives are shaping our understanding of what inclusion means.

    40 min

  3. May 18

    Educational Segregation in Spain (Divein Miniserie). Season Finale: Solutions and a Final Twist

    In the final episode of our DiveIn miniseries on school segregation in Spain, the story reaches the Basque parliament—and takes an unexpected turn. After organizing, gathering signatures, building alliances, and pushing educational segregation into the public debate, the grassroots initiative (ILP) finally presents its proposals to lawmakers. Their demands are bold: publicly funded schools must truly be free,all schools should reflect the demographics of their communities,enrollment should be centralized to reduce segregation,and schools receiving public funds must be held accountable for equity. But what happens when educational reform collides with politics, language identity, and powerful institutions? As the movement appears ready for victory, a dramatic political reversal changes everything. Or does it?

    49 min

  4. May 11

    DiveIn Miniserie Educational Segregation in Spain Ep. 3: The Causes

    In this third episode of our DiveIn miniseries on school segregation in Spain, we move beyond the headlines and ask a difficult question: What actually causes school segregation in Spain and the Basque Country? After following the grassroots movement pushing the issue into the Basque parliament, we now dive into the deeper structural forces shaping who attends which schools—and why. Through conversations with leading researchers and policy experts, this episode unpacks the complex web behind segregation: publicly funded private schools (escuelas concertadas), school choice policies, hidden fees, language politics, middle-class flight, and cultural barriers facing immigrant families. You’ll hear how Spain’s dual school system creates powerful incentives for social sorting, but also why the story is far more complicated than simply blaming private-public partnerships. Experts challenge simplistic explanations and reveal how segregation is increasingly happening within school networks—including inside public schools themselves. This episode also explores one of the most fascinating and politically sensitive issues in the Basque Country: language as a mechanism of segregation. Can bilingual and Euskera immersion programs unintentionally separate students along class and immigration lines? And how do schools created as symbols of cultural resistance become part of a system producing inequality? Along the way, Federico connects these debates to the United States, comparing Spain’s segregation patterns with the long history of housing discrimination, school choice, charter schools, and white flight in the U.S. Episode Transcript

    33 min

  5. May 7

    The Disproportionality Series Final Episode: A Conversation with Alfredo Artiles

    In the final episode of DiveIn’s Disproportionality Series, host Federico Waitoller welcomes back Alfredo Artiles—one of the leading scholars in the field and the very first guest ever featured on the podcast. Drawing on more than three decades of research, Dr. Artiles challenges listeners to rethink disproportionality beyond simplistic debates about over- and underrepresentation in special education. Instead, he invites us to examine the historical, cultural, political, and institutional forces that shape how disability, race, and educational opportunity intersect. This conversation explores: Why disproportionality cannot be understood outside of history and contextThe limitations of current research and policy approachesHow race, disability, and inequity become intertwined through institutional practicesThe “equity paradox” of special education as both a site of support and exclusionWhat next-generation research and policy on disproportionality could look like Throughout the episode, Dr. Artiles offers powerful examples, provocative critiques, and hopeful possibilities for reimagining teaching, learning, and advocacy for students with disabilities. Whether you are a researcher, educator, policymaker, student, or advocate, this episode offers a deeply reflective and intellectually engaging conclusion to one of DiveIn’s most important series to date. TRASNCRIPT OF EPISODE

    53 min

  6. Apr 30

    Educational Segregation in Spain (Divein Miniserie). Part 2: Gathering Signatures and Finding Support

    In this second episode of our DiveIn miniseries on school segregation in Spain, the story moves from idea to action. After introducing the grassroots initiative in the Basque Country, we now follow the organizers as they take a bold step: bringing school segregation to the political stage. What does it take to turn concern into change? In this episode, you’ll hear how activists mobilized parents, school leaders, and policymakers to gather thousands of signatures and spark a national conversation. But advocacy alone isn’t enough—data becomes their most powerful tool. Through compelling visualizations and creative use of available data, the team exposes stark inequalities between public schools and publicly funded private schools (concertadas). The patterns are hard to ignore: differences in who attends which schools reveal deep divides shaped by class, migration, and history. Along the way, we zoom out to understand how Spain compares globally—and why the Basque Country presents a unique and complex case. From language politics to the legacy of ikastolas, schools born as resistance under dictatorship but now entangled in new forms of inequality, this episode uncovers the contradictions at the heart of the system. And just when momentum builds, tensions emerge. Not everyone agrees on the problem—or the solution. Will the movement gain enough support to reach parliament? And what happens when equity efforts collide with history, identity, and politics? 🎙️ Tune in to hear how a grassroots campaign grows into a political force—and why the fight against school segregation is far more complicated than it seems. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT Report Mentioned in the Story: Educación y segregación escolar en Euskadi ** This miniseries was originally produced for the Midwest and Plains Equity Assistance Center

    43 min

  7. Apr 24

    Educational Segregation in Spain (Divein Miniserie). Part 1: A Legislative Initiative Begins

    In this episode, we bring to you a new miniseries. Host Federico Waitoller takes listeners on a journey to the Basque Country in Spain, where an initiative aimed at combating school segregation has been set into motion. The miniseries delves into the legislative efforts undertaken by local activists Sabin and Gonzalo to bring ethnic and class segregation into the public debate. Experts discuss the historical context of Spain's dual education system, born out of the Franco regime, and how public and publicly funded private schools coexist. This episode sets the stage for understanding a complex issue with modern implications. Episode Transcript ** This miniseries was originally produced for the Midwest and Plains Equity Assistance Center

    31 min

  8. Mar 8

    The Disproportionality Series Part 3: A Conversation with Donna Ford

    In this podcast episode, Federico Waitoller interviews Dr. Donna Ford, a distinguished professor in gifted and talented education, to discuss the underrepresentation of Black and Latinx students in these programs. Dr. Ford highlights the pervasive issue of disproportionality, drawing attention to systemic biases ingrained in policies and educational practices. The conversation delves into the root causes and explores the differences in state policies that contribute to the disparities. Dr. Ford emphasizes the need for greater accountability and the importance of addressing both implicit and explicit biases to achieve equity in educational opportunities. Transcript of Episode This is the show Donna and I could not remember the name. Check this great clip ! https://share.google/r8i6PasKa5ByauV56

    58 min
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Join Dr. Federico Waitoller for DiveIn, the podcast that explores the most complex and pressing debates in Special Education. Sponsored by the Division of Research of the Council for Exceptional Children, this series tackles critical and timely topics, including current policy debates, instructional design, disciplinary disparities, school choice, workforce diversity, and funding disparities. DiveIn does not shy away from tough conversations. Through thought-provoking discussions with experts and changemakers, DiveIn will challenge your current perspectives and deepen your understanding, offering actionable insights to drive equity in special education teaching, research, and policy. Tune in and be part of the movement to transform special education through an equity-driven lens. Are you ready? Let's DiveIn!

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