Do Less Marketing

Brittany Downey

Do Less Marketing is a podcast that cuts through the noise to help business owners and teams find clarity. This isn’t another jargony marketing podcast telling you to ”do all the things.” Instead, host Brittany Downey shares practical insights and down-to-earth conversations with guests who’ve been figuring out what matters to them in their business growth. Not by following some magic formula or the latest marketing hack, but by getting intentional about what truly moves their business forward. Whether you’re a solopreneur feeling scattered across too many channels, a nonprofit trying to maximize limited resources, or a small marketing team drowning in endless tasks, this podcast offers a refreshing perspective: it’s possible to grow your business with less marketing, done well. In this podcast, you’ll hear from other entrepreneurs and marketers who have: → Found the marketing activities that truly matter for their business → Leaned into the power of strengths (and doing what they enjoy) → Broken marketing “rules,” yet still continue to grow → Focused on relationship over reach → Defined growth and success in their own terms. Take what resonates. Leave the rest. And join us as we discover how to cut the marketing clutter and focus on what actually works — for your goals, for your team, and for your life.

  1. FEB 2

    Growing a Business Beyond the Early Stage (and Where Cold Outreach Fits) — with Jonathan Grzybowski

    What does it take to grow a business past its early stages? And how does your role change as the company gets bigger? In this episode, Jonathan shares what it looked like to take his business from a very small team to a company of more than 500 people. He talks about the early days of building traction and how nearly 200 conversations helped shape the product, messaging, and direction of the business. We talk about outreach as part of that growth — not as a formula, but as something rooted in persistence and direct connection with the right people. Jonathan shares what that looked like in practice and how those efforts opened doors to larger clients and wider reach. The conversation also moves into leadership. Jonathan reflects on the shift from founder mode to leading a much larger organization, and what he’s had to learn about systems, processes, and decision-making as the company scaled. We talk about how being a parent fits into all of this — the long days and the reality of continuing to build a demanding business alongside family life. This episode offers an honest look at what changes as a business grows, and how the work of leadership evolves alongside it. Penji Website: https://penji.co/   Johnathan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grzybowskij/   Brittany’s Website: https://downeystrategy.com/   Brittany’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittany-downey/

    35 min
  2. 11/17/2025

    What Small Businesses Need to Know About AI Search — With Michelle Bourbonniere, PhD

    What if small businesses could actually benefit from the rise of AI search? Out of all the overwhelm in marketing, figuring out what’s going on in AI search might be one of the most confusing (and cluttered) topics out there. In this episode, Michelle Bourbonniere, PhD, founder of Words on the Rise, shares a simple way to understand how AI search really works—and what you can do about it. Michelle specializes in small-site SEO, helping businesses create smart strategies that get their brands in front of the right people. She shares what’s worth focusing on, and why she’s growing more optimistic about AI search for small businesses. She also pulls back the curtain on how tools like ChatGPT and Google’s AI overviews actually surface results. Michelle introduces a clear framework for assessing your visibility, what she calls the “Three Rs of AI Search.” It’s a practical way to think about how your brand is recognized, trusted, and recommended. Plus, we dig into why measuring success by citations is a fool’s errand. And she shares the single most important thing any small business should optimize for. If you’ve been drowning in advice about AI search and aren’t sure where to start, this cuts through the noise, with a clear, simple framework for understanding it all If you’ve been flooded with AI search advice and aren’t sure what’s real or relevant, this episode cuts through the noise, with a clear, simple framework for understanding it all.  Referenced in the episode AI Search Cheat Sheet: https://wordsontherise.com/ai  F5Bot: https://f5bot.com — for real-time Reddit mentions How People are Using ChatGPT: https://www.nber.org/papers/w34255  Michelle’s Links: Website: https://wordsontherise.com   Email: michelle@wordsontherise.com  LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/michelle-bourbonniere  Newsletter: https://wordsontherise.com/newsletter/   Brittany's Links: Brittany’s Website: https://downeystrategy.com/   Brittany’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittany-downey/

    39 min

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Do Less Marketing is a podcast that cuts through the noise to help business owners and teams find clarity. This isn’t another jargony marketing podcast telling you to ”do all the things.” Instead, host Brittany Downey shares practical insights and down-to-earth conversations with guests who’ve been figuring out what matters to them in their business growth. Not by following some magic formula or the latest marketing hack, but by getting intentional about what truly moves their business forward. Whether you’re a solopreneur feeling scattered across too many channels, a nonprofit trying to maximize limited resources, or a small marketing team drowning in endless tasks, this podcast offers a refreshing perspective: it’s possible to grow your business with less marketing, done well. In this podcast, you’ll hear from other entrepreneurs and marketers who have: → Found the marketing activities that truly matter for their business → Leaned into the power of strengths (and doing what they enjoy) → Broken marketing “rules,” yet still continue to grow → Focused on relationship over reach → Defined growth and success in their own terms. Take what resonates. Leave the rest. And join us as we discover how to cut the marketing clutter and focus on what actually works — for your goals, for your team, and for your life.