In this episode of The Marketing Front Lines, we speak with Maria Urs, Head of Marketing at VirTra, a company creating immersive training simulators for law enforcement, military, and security personnel. VirTra builds 180-degree and 300-degree simulation environments that train officers on split-second decision-making, de-escalation tactics, and use of force scenarios. With 70-80% of their customers coming from law enforcement agencies across 46 countries, Maria leads marketing efforts in a highly specialized govtech niche where trust and human connection outweigh traditional B2B playbooks. Through her Google-trained discipline and hands-on approach, she's learned that marketing to law enforcement requires abandoning cookie-cutter strategies and starting every campaign with a clear, audience-specific goal. Topics Discussed: Marketing immersive training technology to law enforcement and military audiences Building trust as the foundation of govtech marketing strategy Leveraging trade shows and in-person product demonstrations for high-touch sales Tailoring messaging across different security verticals (law enforcement, military, education, healthcare) Managing a lean, high-performing four-person marketing team International expansion strategy for training simulators across 46 countries Optimizing website and CRM workflows to accelerate sales velocity The role of human expertise vs. AI in products serving first responders Why govtech marketing requires constant adaptability and cannot follow standard playbooks Lessons For B2B Tech Marketers: Reject the Copy-Paste Playbook in Specialized Markets: Maria observed that most govtech marketers make the critical mistake of applying generic B2B SaaS playbooks across different audiences, assuming that if it works in one government context, it will work in another. VirTra abandoned this approach entirely. Instead, Maria starts every campaign by defining the specific goal and customizing messaging for each distinct audience segment—whether law enforcement, military, or education security—recognizing that each has fundamentally different motivations, procurement processes, and success metrics. Build Trust Before You Build Pipeline: In the law enforcement and military space, trust is the prerequisite to every deal. VirTra's marketing strategy centers on proving credibility through product demonstrations at trade shows rather than driving website conversions. With a team composed primarily of ex-military and former law enforcement personnel (including the CEO), VirTra leverages insider credibility and lets prospects experience the product firsthand. Maria recognized that in high-stakes training environments, marketing materials alone cannot convince buyers—they need tangible proof that the product works. Optimize for Trial, Not Clicks: Unlike typical B2C or SaaS companies that optimize conversion paths from website to purchase, VirTra's marketing prioritizes getting prospects into physical product demonstrations. Maria invests heavily in national and local trade show participation, viewing these events as the primary conversion channel. The marketing strategy accepts that law enforcement agencies will not purchase based on specifications and testimonials alone—they must experience the immersive training scenarios themselves. This insight led VirTra to measure marketing success by demo completions rather than traditional digital metrics. Start Every Campaign With the End Goal, Not the Channel: Maria's discipline from her Google experience taught her to identify bad advertising instantly—ads that lead with features rather than outcomes. For VirTra, this means every piece of marketing content articulates the specific benefit for that audience: budget savings, improved training outcomes, reduced liability, or enhanced officer safety. Maria emphasized that marketers often jump to creating "shiny ads" without defining what success looks like for the specific audience segment, resulting in high spend with low conversion. Scale Lean Teams by Defining Clear Ownership: With just four direct reports, Maria built her marketing operation around high-performing individuals who own specific domains but remain flexible enough to support cross-functional projects. She deliberately chose a smaller team over a larger one after experiencing both structures, finding that condensed teams with clear accountability produce more proactive results than larger teams with diffused responsibility. Each team member knows their core responsibilities while maintaining the flexibility to assist wherever needed. Tailor International Expansion to Local Market Dynamics: As VirTra expands across 46 countries, Maria's 2026 strategy focuses on recognizing that international law enforcement markets have distinct procurement processes, training requirements, and regulatory environments. Rather than deploying a single global marketing approach, she's building region-specific strategies that account for how different countries prioritize officer training, allocate budgets, and evaluate immersive technology—acknowledging that a marketing playbook that works in Arizona won't necessarily translate to Europe or Asia-Pacific. Accelerate Sales Velocity Through CRM Integration, Not Just Lead Generation: Maria identified that generating more leads wouldn't solve VirTra's growth challenges. Instead, she focused on connecting CRM systems and optimizing internal workflows to reduce friction in the sales process. By improving how marketing passes qualified leads to sales and how the team tracks prospects through lengthy government procurement cycles, VirTra increased deal velocity without necessarily increasing top-of-funnel volume—a critical insight for B2B marketers in industries with long, complex sales cycles. Recognize When AI Enhances vs. Replaces Human Value: While Maria uses AI tools like ChatGPT for research and quality control, she maintains that VirTra's core product and marketing approach must remain grounded in human expertise and real-world scenarios. First responders train for genuine life-or-death situations, not "imaginary scenarios," which requires content filmed with professional actors based on actual case law and after-action reports. 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