Don't Encourage Us

Don't Encourage Us

Most people watch a movie. Some people can't stop reverse-engineering the decisions inside it. Don't Encourage Us is for the second group. Each episode takes a film, series, or creative property and examines it the way you'd examine any high-stakes decision: what problem was being solved, what trade-offs were made, where the execution landed, and what you'd do with it from here. Not a review show. Not a fan podcast. A forensic examination of creative and strategic choices, by people who can't turn that part of their brain off. If your best conversations about fiction happen after everyone else has moved on — this is where they continue.

  1. Roadside Picnic & Stalker, Deadpool's Anti-Plot, and Story Break: UNESCO's Agent

    01/20/2025

    Roadside Picnic & Stalker, Deadpool's Anti-Plot, and Story Break: UNESCO's Agent

    A plot can be broken and a film can still work. Deadpool & Wolverine is Exhibit A — we break down exactly why the character work and tonal execution carried a thinly-plotted story to $1.3B, and what that says about where creative effort actually needs to go. Then: Roadside Picnic and Tarkovsky's Stalker — a novel and a film that strip science fiction down to what it's really about. And in Story Break: we develop UNESCO's Agent, a thriller concept built around a secret operative whose only mission is to protect World Heritage Sites that no government will defend. Half James Bond, half Grey Man, with a character whose bitterness toward people makes him perfectly suited to protect what we've left behind.   Topics discussed:   Roadside Picnic & Tarkovsky's Stalker: Roadside Picnic (1972): the Strugatsky brothers' philosophical sci-fi novel about alien artifacts left on Earth and the humans who illegally scavenge them Stalker (1979): Tarkovsky's adaptation that strips the science fiction to its bones — three men, mud, and the question of what you truly want The room that grants your deepest desire — not what you say, not what you think, but what you actually want — and why that's terrifying Russian fiction's relationship with melancholy: why the journey matters more than resolution Sepia to color: how the film uses visual language to mark the boundary between the mundane and the zone Why Tarkovsky considered Solaris his least favorite film — too much science fiction survived the edit French cinema comparison: the cut-to-black ending tradition vs. Russian endings that feel complete even when they're ambiguous   Deadpool & Wolverine: $1.3 billion on a film with almost no plot — what that says about where creative effort actually matters Character work and tonal execution as the load-bearing elements when story is thin The earlier draft that used "development hell" instead of the void — and why Gambit makes more sense in that version Reynolds and Jackman as a modern buddy comedy duo: could they carry non-Marvel original films? Planes, Trains and Automobiles references hidden throughout the film   Three-Body Problem novels: Steve finished the trilogy — both hosts place it in their top five novels ever Why the Netflix adaptation can't go below the surface: the philosophical density is unfilmable Cixin Liu's understanding of the ramifications of human decisions across centuries The novel rewards big-picture thinkers and punishes anyone who lives purely in the moment   Story Break: UNESCO's Agent: The pitch: a secret operative paid by the World Heritage Trust to protect sites no government will defend 1,223 UNESCO World Heritage Sites, 727 biosphere reserves — and almost no actual protection Sample plot: terrorists hijack an oil tanker into the Norwegian fjords with dead man switches The agent's mission is the site, not the hostages — a fundamentally different motivation than any existing thriller protagonist Character backstory: half Chinese, half American, raised in India — trained as a doctor, hardened by Rwanda, Haiti, the Arab Spring He loves humanity's heritage because he's given up on humanity itself — the arc is reconnecting with living people Cold opens showing the geological or cultural formation of each site before the present-day threat Local fixers instead of a permanent team — endless variety, no recurring cast bloat The shadow committee: a scientist, a hedge fund billionaire, a former astronaut — different motivations, same goal Format flexibility: novels, streaming series, film franchise, or mini-series — the concept scales to any budget   Timestamps: 0:00 — Introduction and Turkey travel 2:19 — Deadpool & Wolverine follow-up: $1.3B without a plot 10:35 — Reynolds and Jackman as a buddy comedy duo beyond Marvel 14:40 — Roadside Picnic and Tarkovsky's Stalker: Russian sci-fi stripped to philosophy 33:31 — Three-Body Problem: finishing the trilogy 43:09 — Story Break: UNESCO's Agent pitch 56:27 — Agent character backstory and development 1:03:20 — Expanding the concept: formats, cold opens, supporting characters   Reach the show at DontEncourage@gmail.comStop by and discourage us on Instagram, X, TikTok, Discord, YouTube, and Threads https://linktr.ee/dontencourageus Listen to all the music we've discussed in every episode so far on our Encouraged Grooves playlist on YouTube and Spotify and find your next favorite song.

    1h 23m
  2. Deadpool & Wolverine: Did It Un-F*ck the MCU?

    07/28/2024

    Deadpool & Wolverine: Did It Un-F*ck the MCU?

    Guests: Matt Baughman (actor), Steve Custer / Spidey Steve (actor, Starwipe Films) Topics Plot and structure: The plot was reverse-engineered from a wish list of cameos and set pieces "Anchor being" as a concept invented to justify the multiverse Wolverine tour Three layers operating simultaneously: actor farewell, Deadpool franchise, MCU setup — not always compatible Fight choreography that's visually impressive but stakes-free because both leads regenerate Does it save the MCU? Temporarily through interest, not through story — generates excitement but points nowhere No post-credit setup, no direction for what comes next Agatha will likely deflate whatever goodwill this builds The runway to Captain America: Brave New World (February 2025) is too long to sustain momentum The MCU needs its next Avengers movie to course-correct, not individual films Cameo impacts: Chris Evans as Johnny Storm: clever switcheroo, but character played entirely for laughs — disrespectful to the actor's contribution Channing Tatum as Gambit: earned more in 15 minutes than a solo film would have — the accent worked Wesley Snipes as Blade: "there's only one Blade" line as commentary on the stalled Mahershala Ali reboot Daphne Keen as X-23/Laura: carried 50% of one of the film's only genuine emotional moments — still got it Henry Cavill as "The Cavillrine" — better executed than Nicolas Cage's Superman in The Flash Tyler Mane's Sabretooth: the anticipated fight with Wolverine over in two seconds — played for laughs Cassandra Nova: Obscure comics choice with paper-thin motivation in the film Multiple changes of heart that undermine any consistent threat Emma Corrin's performance was strong despite the writing Future predictions: Deadpool will return but the question is format — Avenger? Supporting role? Another standalone? X-Men and Fantastic Four properties now available to Marvel — the real long-term win Secret Wars as potential universe reset — needed sooner rather than later Thunderbolts unlikely to generate Avengers-level excitement Timestamps: 0:00 — Introduction and guest backgrounds 5:40 — Deadpool & Wolverine overview 10:25 — Initial reactions (spoiler-free) 15:51 — Plot weakness and meta-commentary 24:41 — Does this save the MCU? 32:38 — SPOILER WARNING — Cameo breakdown 1:07:12 — The happy ending and what it means 1:36:58 — Deadpool's MCU future Check out Steve Custer's work at Starwipe Films and Matthew Baughman's here. Then stalk your celebrity prey online at  @spidey_steve and @mattybaughs on Instagram. Reach the show at DontEncourage@gmail.comStop by and discourage us on Instagram, X, TikTok, Discord, YouTube, and Threads https://linktr.ee/dontencourageus Listen to all the music we've discussed in every episode so far on our Encouraged Grooves playlist on YouTube and Spotify and find your next favorite song.

    1h 48m
  3. The List: No One Can Save You, Late Night with the Devil, 1984, X-Men '97, & How to Actually Prompt AI

    07/22/2024

    The List: No One Can Save You, Late Night with the Devil, 1984, X-Men '97, & How to Actually Prompt AI

    Topics Apple TV+ sci-fi as gimmick: Dark Matter, Invasion, the Chris O'Dowd show, Godzilla series — all set up sci-fi premises then abandon them for soap opera The difference between sci-fi as gimmick and sci-fi that reveals something about humanity (Three-Body Problem comparison) Apple's niche audience strategy: HBO's old model with deeper pockets but possibly wrong content No One Can Save You (Hulu): Almost zero dialogue for the entire film — all show, no tell Alien invasion as metaphor for modern isolation and resentment Why limited budgets force innovation: the Robert Rodriguez "money hose" problem Multiple twists that keep resetting expectations across all three acts The ending as a reflection of how disconnected people actually feel Late Night with the Devil: 9 minutes of voiceover exposition before the film starts The demon doesn't appear until 55 minutes in Found footage conceit (lost master tape of a 1970s talk show's final Halloween episode) Very slow pacing despite strong concept 1984 (1984 film): The destruction of identity and love through torture Survival instinct pitted against attachment — survival wins, guilt destroys what's left Heavy science fiction used correctly: extreme circumstances reveal true things about people Eurythmics' "Sex Crimes" written for the film, used only in the trailer X-Men '97: Shapeshifter characters and gender fluidity as logical consequence of the power The fired showrunner who delivered the MCU's best-received property in years Animated series as the format that saved Marvel's audience scores AI prompt engineering: The formula: "Act as a top AI prompt engineer and analyze and improve the following prompt" Why specifying the expert role, the purpose (not just the task), and the output format transforms results Adding "explain your logic and context" to get reasoning, not just answers Image recognition capabilities: uploading a photo of a city skyline and getting building-level identification Reality TV ethics: Love in the Wild (2011): canceled after two seasons, produced four marriages and eight children Too Hot to Handle: maximum drama, zero lasting relationships Psychometric tools used to select dysfunctional contestants — the informed consent problem The F-boy Island incident: when a show refused to honor its own premise Reach the show at DontEncourage@gmail.comStop by and discourage us on Instagram, X, TikTok, Discord, YouTube, and Threads https://linktr.ee/dontencourageus Listen to all the music we've discussed in every episode so far on our Encouraged Grooves playlist on YouTube and Spotify and find your next favorite song.

    1h 13m
  4. Godzilla Minus One - Balancing Character, Spectacle, and Story

    07/16/2024

    Godzilla Minus One - Balancing Character, Spectacle, and Story

    A $15 million Japanese film delivered better visual effects than Hollywood blockbusters spending ten times as much. Godzilla Minus One isn't just a great monster movie it's a case study in what happens when a director with VFX expertise controls the budget, and when a three-year script delay actually improves the final product. In this episode: Why this film's $15M budget produced better effects than $200M American Godzilla movies — and what that says about budget allocation vs. talent The post-war setting as a storytelling advantage: how placing characters in genuine desperation raises every scene's stakes How Godzilla's limited screen time actually strengthens the film and why most blockbusters get this wrong The unusual Toho/Legendary deal that keeps two competing Godzilla franchises from overlapping in theaters and streaming What the Shinden fighter choice reveals about the film's approach to Japanese identity and pride Character craft: why showing a protagonist's worst moment first is one of the fastest ways to build audience investment Also discussed: Three-Body Problem book series — what Cixin Liu's writing reveals about character development through sci-fi, The Outlaws (series) — Stephen Merchant's ensemble comedy and how backstory elevates surface-level premises, Scarface (1983) — cultural ubiquity, casting choices, and whether the film holds up for a first-time viewer in 2024 Timestamps: 0:00 — What's been on our list: Three-Body Problem, The Tourist, Scarface, The Outlaws ~20:00 — Godzilla Minus One discussion begins The meaning of "Minus One" and the franchise timeline The $15M budget question: how did they pull this off? Post-war Japan as a storytelling engine Character arc: shame, honor, and redemption The ending: what worked and what could have been sharper Sequel prospects and what the regeneration ending sets up   Reach the show at DontEncourage@gmail.comStop by and discourage us on Instagram, X, TikTok, Discord, YouTube, and Threads https://linktr.ee/dontencourageus Listen to all the music we've discussed in every episode so far on our Encouraged Grooves playlist on YouTube and Spotify and find your next favorite song.

    1h 13m
  5. Fallout (2024): The Wizard of Oz Template. Plus, Is Netflix Making Bad Shows on Purpose?

    07/01/2024

    Fallout (2024): The Wizard of Oz Template. Plus, Is Netflix Making Bad Shows on Purpose?

    Is Netflix deliberately making its shows easy to ignore — and if so, what does that mean for every advertiser writing them a check? The hosts unpack the streaming advertising problem no one's naming, then turn to Amazon's $153 million bet on Fallout and find a classic storytelling template hiding underneath the wasteland. In this episode: 0:00 — The Killing (2007): Danish crime drama, political intrigue, and when cultural specificity breaks a remake 11:30 — The remake decision tree: what actually determines whether you dub it or rebuild it 17:00 — Rebel Moon and the Zack Snyder problem: why the fix is obvious and why he won't take it 27:00 — Director partnerships, ego, and why the best blockbusters have two people in charge 33:00 — #Too2ndScreen: the case that Netflix is a billboard company selling the illusion of attention 48:00 — Why streaming ad dollars may be worth a fraction of what platforms claim 53:00 — YouTube as the real threat to every streaming service 57:00 — Fallout: $153 million, a hero's journey, and the Wizard of Oz hiding in the wasteland 1:02:00 — Retro-futurism and the alternate America that never had a counterculture 1:06:00 — The Brotherhood of Steel as survival strategy: why cults work when everything else fails 1:09:00 — Season 2 predictions and what the show still has to answer Stream The Killing (2007) and Rebel Moon (2024) on Netflix. Stream Fallout (2024) on Amazon Prime. Reach the show at DontEncourage@gmail.comStop by and discourage us on Instagram, X, TikTok, Discord, YouTube, and Threads https://linktr.ee/dontencourageus Listen to all the music we've discussed in every episode so far on our Encouraged Grooves playlist on YouTube and Spotify and find your next favorite song.

    1h 11m
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Most people watch a movie. Some people can't stop reverse-engineering the decisions inside it. Don't Encourage Us is for the second group. Each episode takes a film, series, or creative property and examines it the way you'd examine any high-stakes decision: what problem was being solved, what trade-offs were made, where the execution landed, and what you'd do with it from here. Not a review show. Not a fan podcast. A forensic examination of creative and strategic choices, by people who can't turn that part of their brain off. If your best conversations about fiction happen after everyone else has moved on — this is where they continue.