Don't Lose

Karen Thrall

Each week, author and executive coach Karen Thrall dives into one human tension that shapes how we live, lead, and connect. Through stories and conversations, discover how to hold onto your curiosity, your courage, your humanity, and your sense of purpose. Become more of who you are, not less.

Episodes

  1. 6d ago

    Don't Lose Your Love For Detours

    Listen in as Karen shares what detours have taught her about holding onto the things that have always been part of who you are, loosening your grip on the plan, and enjoying the unexpected places life takes you. Because sometimes a detour brings you back to where you were headed, and sometimes it changes where you want to go. ***** TRANSCRIPT: 00:00 | Welcome to Don’t Lose Karen welcomes listeners to Episode 3 and explains what Don’t Lose is about: storytelling with meaning. Every week brings a story with lessons and inspiration we can draw from. This episode is recorded from the beach at Cultus Lake, British Columbia, a place filled with fond memories. 00:44 | Don’t Lose Your Love for Detours Karen introduces four stories about detours and what they’ve taught her about life, plans, identity, adventure, and the unexpected places we sometimes end up. 00:54 | Three Memories From Age 14 Karen remembers three things vividly from when she was 14. She would spin a globe with her eyes closed, stop it with her finger, and imagine traveling wherever it landed. During math class, she drew little icons representing her friends and their personalities. She also constantly imagined herself becoming an executive in the fashion industry. Two close friends exposed her to that world early. Lena was already designing clothing and selling her designs in boutiques. Her sister Letta was an international model who appeared in fashion magazines at only 14. Through them, Karen discovered the world of fashion, magazines, creativity, and business. 03:22 | The Dreams Didn’t Disappear Those three things Karen imagined at 14 didn’t happen until she was in her 40s. The years between were full of adventures, stories, disappointments, pain, and life. Yet the detour didn’t stop who she was at 14. Those desires were uniquely hers, and eventually they found their way back into her life. Her first lesson about detours: You don’t know what tomorrow brings. Love the detour, but don’t lose yourself in the detour. 04:50 | The Wrong Turn in the Mountains Karen shares a literal detour. While driving through the mountains, she accidentally got on the highway going in the wrong direction. She assumed she could simply take the next exit and turn around, but several exits didn’t have on ramps. When she finally found one and got back on the highway, she ran into construction and bumper to bumper traffic. The mistake added about 30 minutes to her trip. Karen could feel herself getting angry. What surprised her was that she wasn’t angry at the traffic. She was angry with herself. Why? Because she had a plan, and she was mad at herself for thwarting it. 06:01 | Plans Are Better in Pencil Karen realized the anger wasn’t necessary. The detour reminded her that we’re not completely in control of our plans. Plans are better written in pencil, not ink. There’s nothing wrong with having a plan, but we don’t know what tomorrow holds. We don’t know what surprises, interruptions, or unexpected experiences will come our way. A pencil and eraser leave room for the plan to change. 07:24 | “It’s Okay, It’s an Adventure” Karen admits she’s terrible with directions. When she and Cory travel, wrong turns and missed exits happen regularly. Instead of getting frustrated, they’ve developed a response: “It’s okay, it’s an adventure.” When they find themselves on an unfamiliar road, they’ll say, “We’ve never been on this road before. Oh look, something new.” That shift invites them to look around, enjoy where they are, and notice something they never would’ve seen if they hadn’t made the wrong turn. A detour doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve lost your way. Sometimes it’s simply an interruption on the way to where you’re going. What can you see that you would’ve never seen before? What adventure is waiting for you because you took the detour? 09:37 | Getting Lost in Paris Karen shares a favorite memory from traveling through Paris with her friend Laura. They spent one day walking through the city and another riding bicycles, often without knowing exactly where they were going. Karen loved it because it fed the nomad in her. One day, they rented a car and traveled outside Paris to Nantes. When they returned late that evening, they needed to fill the rental car with gas. Karen was the navigator, which was already a problem given her history with directions. What should’ve taken 10 minutes turned into an hour and a half. Karen didn’t realize the gas pumps they were looking for could be standalone pumps tucked between buildings. She kept looking for a traditional gas station, missing turns, getting distracted, and rerouting them through downtown Paris. 11:49 | Bump, Bump... What Was That? As Laura patiently drove and Karen continued trying to figure out where they were going, they suddenly heard bumps and people honking. Laura asked, “What was that bump? Why are they honking?” Karen casually responded that Laura had driven through the roundabout instead of around it. They burst out laughing. That crazy night driving around Paris, getting lost, searching for gas, missing turns, and driving through a roundabout became one of their favorite memories from the trip. 12:43 | Detours Become Stories Detours, rerouting, and roadblocks can become some of our best memories. Something may feel strange, frustrating, or inconvenient while it’s happening, but over time it can become an endearing story. The roadblock creates an experience you remember and learn from. 13:14 | Don’t Lose Your Love for Detours A detour doesn’t mean you won’t eventually get where you want to go. You don’t know what tomorrow holds. A detour can invite you into an adventure. It can help you see things with fresh eyes and a new perspective. It can show you something you’ve never seen before. Most importantly, a detour doesn’t define you, and you don’t have to lose who you are while you’re in one. 13:47 | What If You’ve Always Wanted to Write? Karen gives the example of someone who has wanted to be a writer since childhood. Maybe they wrote essays and stories when they were young and always dreamed of writing a book, but life happened and the book still hasn’t been written. Maybe it’s not gone. Maybe it’s simply a detour. If something is truly part of who you are, you don’t necessarily lose it because it hasn’t happened according to your timeline. We put tremendous pressure on ourselves by writing our life plans in ink: “I’m going to do this. I’ll accomplish it by this date.” There’s nothing wrong with those plans. But writing them in pencil gives us the invitation to see beyond the plan and notice what else might be possible. 14:36 | Sometimes the Detour Changes Your Path Sometimes a detour isn’t there to return you to the road you started on. Sometimes you get rerouted and discover something better than you imagined. Sometimes detours are kind because they help us change direction. Hold onto the things that have always been part of who you are. Make your plans, but leave room for them to change. Enjoy the roads you didn’t expect to travel and pay attention to what they’re showing you. 14:59 | Closing Don’t lose your love for detours. Karen thanks listeners and invites them to follow her on Instagram and YouTube at @karenthrallinc and listen on their favorite podcast channels. Thank you for your support! My three favorite ways to stay connected are: 1. Sign up to my newsletter (LINK) 2. Follow on Instagram (LINK) 3. Subscribe to my YouTube channel (LINK)

    Don't Lose Your Love For Detours
  2. Aug 12

    Don't Lose Your Willpower

    How do you stay strong when life takes an unexpected turn and changes everything? A three-month-old monkey taught me a secret about willpower that changed my perspective. TRANSCRIPTION: I'm Karen Thrall, welcome to the Don't Lose podcast. Every week I'm recording this in a different location. In this episode I'm sitting on a park bench in Blaine, WA. Don't Lose is about everyday stories and the lessons we find in them. Let's get started. This episode is called Don't Lose Your Willpower. There are so many layers to willpower, so I'm going to stick to three things I learned from a story I experienced. First, a definition so we're all on the same page. Willpower is having a strong determination that allows you to do something difficult. There's a difference between willpower and motivation. Motivation isn't necessarily difficult. Willpower is. My question to you is, what is hard right now for you? Is it finances? Is it your job? Are you looking at your career going, how did I get here? This is not what I signed up for. Is it health? Is it a difficult relationship in the workplace or personally? What is hard? No matter how great life is, we all have something difficult where we need willpower. There's a story that took place in Rishikesh, India. I was visiting my daughter, and she said, do you want to meet Tulu? I was really excited to meet this little monkey named Tulu. When I met her, she was three months old. My daughter met her at two months, just after she'd been rescued, abandoned and left to die. She was frail, weak, and alone. And not only that, she had lost three of her limbs. All she had was one arm left with her hand. Her adopted dad had been nurturing her for the month before I met her. When we showed up, the first thing Madison said was, "Look how strong she is." With her willpower activated, she was getting stronger and stronger. I need to give you a little information I learned. Female monkeys are born into a troop and remain in that troop. While I was there, I saw countless monkeys, a dozen at a time, sometimes 20, 30, 50. Every day I saw troops of monkeys and moms with babies hanging on their underbellies. It was beautiful. All this was happening before I met Tulu. The reason I want you to know that is Tulu will never be part of a troop. She will never again cling to her mother's underbelly. She will never be a mom. She will never live in the jungle. She will never be part of her family. She will never swing tree to tree. That life's done. One of the things that diminishes our willpower is the past. What I was, not who I am today. When you want to find your willpower, it starts by accepting who you are today. Your life today, all of it. This is my reality. This is my life. From there, you start to regain your willpower. Tulu will never experience what was. She only has now. What I watched in her was a monkey learning how to be a monkey without any other monkeys. She was innately, naturally a monkey. This hardship did not take away who she is. A lot of times in hardships, we lose a bit of ourselves. She didn't. She explored more of who she was becoming. Her hardship invited more of who she is. She learned how to use two limbs to move around the floor. She'd scoot with one hand and her bum. Hand, bum. Hand, bum. She figured it out. She figured out how to climb a curtain using her hand and teeth until she got to the ledge so she could look out the window. Her adopted dad would hold out his finger and she'd grip it with her tiny little hand. He would swing her as if she was on a vine, back and forth, and I'd watch her body. Her body instantly started acting like a monkey's body. Free and flowing and carefree. She loved the sensation she instinctively knew was in her. It didn't look like what it was, but it was still there. She instinctively wanted to sit behind my daughter's head and look in her hair for bugs, dirt, food. All of that was her true self, even through the hardship. Her willpower gave her the ability to find herself. Number one, don't look in the past if you want to have willpower. Look at your moment right now and find your willpower to get through this difficult thing. Two, remember who you are. We experience loss all the time. We know what it is to grieve something or someone we don't have. Willpower helps us find ourselves again. To increase our willpower, we stay in the moment, in the now. That's what gets our willpower stronger. As an executive coach, I often pull life lessons from stories in my past. At my age, I have a lot of them. But when I share stories and hardships that required willpower, I'm telling you the story after it's done. I've already experienced the strength from that story. That's not what I want to do in this podcast. I want to tell you a hardship I'm going through now, while I'm in it, where willpower scares me. My hardship might not seem like a big deal to you, but it is to me. This podcast is my hardship. It's provoking me to do something difficult. This year has been an incredible year of teaching me what it means to be seen. Someone in marketing works with me every four to six weeks, and throughout the year she's said, "Why don't you let people know who you are? All you do is show your professional persona. Why don't you share a bit about yourself?" Petrified. Terrified. Don't want to do it. While I was in Japan, I wrote down this phrase: Don't lose yourself. While I was there, I had this imagery of a birdcage. I'm in this birdcage and the door is wide open. I can get out anytime, but it's familiar and comfortable. In the corporate world, it's easy to lose yourself and get lost in the professional persona. It happens subtly, bit by bit. Then one day you wake up and go, how did I get here? That's this year for me. I remember meeting two colleagues at a big corporation. We were in their cafeteria for coffee. It was so perfect. So superficial. We said all the right things and I left feeling really sad because I felt fake. Somehow I've created this belief system that my value is in my professional persona, and I've been blocking off myself, thinking that who I am might disqualify me. This podcast is my willpower. It's the strong determination to do something very difficult, and that is to allow myself to be seen. That's one of my hardships right now, and it is hard, more than you can imagine. But I'm determined to do this difficult thing. What is yours? What is difficult for you? The last thing Tulu taught me was a secret I'd never considered before. Throughout our time there, she did something over and over. She would climb up her adopted dad's arm, rest against his chest, and fall asleep. She would cuddle. She would be. Then she'd climb back down again. And it dawned on me that the secret of willpower is that you are never in isolation. Ever. And you know you're not in isolation when you allow yourself to be loved in the hardship, as you are, right now. Be loved in the hardship as you are right now, so that you will have the strong determination to do that difficult thing. Thank you so much for listening today. I'll see you next week with another story and another little bit of inspiration. Please follow me on Instagram and YouTube. My tag is @karenthrallinc and you can find me on any of your favorite podcast channels. See you next week. Thank you for your support! My three favorite ways to stay connected are: 1. Sign up to my newsletter (LINK) 2. Follow on Instagram (LINK) 3. Subscribe to my YouTube channel (LINK)

    Don't Lose Your Willpower
  3. Season 1, Episode 1 Trailer

    Introduction

    What if the stories you've lived weren't meant to diminish you, but to shape you into more of who you are? In my intro, I share why I started Don't Lose and the simple phrase that sparked it all: "Don't lose yourself." What began as a personal reminder grew into a podcast about the human tensions we all face and the ways our experiences influence how we live, lead, connect, and grow. Each week, we'll explore a new story. Each one is a reminder to never lose our curiosity, our courage, our purpose, or our humanity. Transcript: 00:02 Hi, this is Karen Thrall.  00:04 Welcome to the Don't Lose podcast.  00:06 And every week I'm going to share a story.  00:09 And in that story, we're going to discover how it impacts the way you live. 00:15 The way you connect with others, the way you build community, the way you lead.  00:21 And we're going to, through the stories, explore ways that it inspires us and reminds us not to lose our curiosity, not to lose our connection with people, not to lose our purpose, not to lose our courage, not to lose our humanity.  00:40 It's so easy to experience something in your life, a story, that compromises who you are. 00:49 And every story in your life and mine. 00:52 Is there to shape us and where we evolve into who we're becoming. 00:58 All along the way, the one thing that is not supposed to happen is where we lose who we are. 01:07 And the whole purpose of the stories and circumstances and events that take place in our life is not to shrink us. 01:16 It's to help us evolve into more of who we are, not less.  01:21 How many times have you lost yourself?  01:25 How many times have you compromised yourself? 01:29 I started thinking about "Don't lose yourself", this was the phrase that was coming to me, "Don't lose yourself".  01:37 I thought it's time to do a podcast.  01:40 And it's not about what we do for a living or who we are.  01:46 It's really how stories impact us.  01:48 And our journey together is to discover, to discover more of who you are and who you're becoming. 01:57 I do have one request and that's to subscribe.  02:00 I know no surprise.  02:01 Everybody wants you to subscribe.  02:03 It does help actually.  02:05 And then my three favorite places would be my newsletter, which there'll be a link in the intro and also Instagram and YouTube.  02:13 I will be on all the platforms.  02:15 Instagram will also show you the visuals that go with the story and YouTube will be the video of this podcast.  02:22 So those are my three, but you can subscribe to any of the platforms.  02:27 I appreciate it all.  02:28 Thank you for listening.  02:30 Thank you for journeying this out with me and I look forward to us getting to know each other and connecting.  02:37 You're always free to contact me.  02:39 I welcome it.  02:41 And here we go.   02:42 Don't Lose.  Here are three ways you can follow Karen on social media: 1. [LINK] Sign up for Karen's newsletter to receive her most recent articles and upcoming events  2. [LINK] Subscribe to Karen’s YouTube channel  3. [LINK] Follow Karen on Instagram  Thank you! Karen  Thank you for your support! My three favorite ways to stay connected are: 1. Sign up to my newsletter (LINK) 2. Follow on Instagram (LINK) 3. Subscribe to my YouTube channel (LINK)

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Each week, author and executive coach Karen Thrall dives into one human tension that shapes how we live, lead, and connect. Through stories and conversations, discover how to hold onto your curiosity, your courage, your humanity, and your sense of purpose. Become more of who you are, not less.