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The equitable future we seek requires celebrating the genius of today’s leaders of color. In Dreaming in Color, hear from champions in the charge for equity and justice. Hosted by Darren Isom, a partner in the The Bridgespan Group’s San Francisco office, this podcast offers leaders of color space to share how they have leveraged their unique assets and abilities to embrace excellence, drive impact, and more fully define what success looks like. Grounded in both his New Orleans roots and his experience as a queer Black leader in the social sector, Darren invites listeners into the candid kitchen table conversations that have long helped shape the journeys of BIPOC leaders. Together, we embrace these leaders’ ingenuity, learn from their wisdom and wit, reflect on their words with authenticity and humor, and listen as we think of how we can collectively strive to do and be better. This is Dreaming in Color.

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The equitable future we seek requires celebrating the genius of today’s leaders of color. In Dreaming in Color, hear from champions in the charge for equity and justice. Hosted by Darren Isom, a partner in the The Bridgespan Group’s San Francisco office, this podcast offers leaders of color space to share how they have leveraged their unique assets and abilities to embrace excellence, drive impact, and more fully define what success looks like. Grounded in both his New Orleans roots and his experience as a queer Black leader in the social sector, Darren invites listeners into the candid kitchen table conversations that have long helped shape the journeys of BIPOC leaders. Together, we embrace these leaders’ ingenuity, learn from their wisdom and wit, reflect on their words with authenticity and humor, and listen as we think of how we can collectively strive to do and be better. This is Dreaming in Color.

    Nate Wong: Unlearning to Lead

    Nate Wong: Unlearning to Lead

    Show description
    Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show that provides a platform for BIPOC social change leaders to candidly share how their lived experiences (personal and professional) have prepared them to lead their work and drive the impact we all seek.
    In this episode, we are joined by Nate Wong, Chief Strategy and Social Innovation Officer of the Beeck Center, an experiential hub to incubate emergent ideas in the social impact space. We talk about his cultural heritage and how his background as a cook helped to shape his current vision of the world. Plus, we discuss why unlearning is necessary in cultural healing processes and how he acknowledges this in his leadership coaching work. Join us and listen to this conversation where we reimagine models of coexistence and find keys for an equity-driven system.
    Jump straight into:
    (1:27) - Show Introduction: Nate reads a poem of the 13th century and shares childhood experiences in the kitchen that shaped his view of the world.
    (13:15) - The process of building a self-narrative to inspire others and play a cultural translator role.
    (19:53) - What it means to question our own assumptions: Market forces, meritocracy and different views of leadership.
    (25:12) - Unlearning to heal: The concept of “inner saboteur” and common underappreciated assets within Nate’s coaching work with the BIPOC community.
    (30:03) - Capitalism reimagined: Discussing ‘enoughness’ and storytelling as the ultimate tool for an equity-driven system.
    (36:28) - Examining the evolution of the traditional classroom format and the power of teaching: Final words of hope by Nate Wong.
    Episode resources
    Connect with Nate Wong through https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanielkwong/ (LinkedIn) and https://twitter.com/nathanielkwong (Twitter)
    https://www.natewong.com/bio (Nate Wong | Homepage)
    Thank you for listening to Dreaming in Color a https://www.bridgespan.org/ (Bridgespan) supported https://www.studiopodsf.com/ (StudioPod) production. Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator and Teresa Buchanan is the Show Producer. The production team from The Bridgespan Group includes Cora Daniels, Michael Borger, Christina Pistorius, and Britt Savage. Additional music and editing provided by https://nodalab.com/ (nodalab).

    • 42 min
    Ashindi Maxton: Winning the Battle for America’s Imagination

    Ashindi Maxton: Winning the Battle for America’s Imagination

    Show description
    Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show that provides a platform for BIPOC social change leaders to candidly share how their lived experiences (personal and professional) have prepared them to lead their work and drive the impact we all seek.
    In this episode, our guest is Ashindi Maxton. She is a Co-founder and former Executive Director of the Donors of Color Network, an organization that offers a philanthropic and political home for high-net-worth donors of color committed to building power for and across communities of color. From racial equity and voting rights to climate justice and income inequality, Ashindi has had her finger on the pulse of where and importantly how we need to do and be better. Join in as we speak with Ashindi on bringing community and confidence to her work, leaning into healing and collective efforts, and demanding accountability and action.
    Jump straight into:
    (00:21) - Introducing Ashindi Maxton: Co-Founder of the Donors of Color Network and a truly brilliant mind.
    (01:47) - Ashindi pulls inspiration from a poem by Eve Ewing, Buddhism, and the Twitterverse.
    (06:32) - The ability to heal: Takeaways from Ashindi’s early path in politics.
    (10:19) - “I know how this reality trickles down”: Experiences and principles that have driven Ashindi’s career.
    (16:28) - ”Walk into the place like you own it”: On community, a sense of belonging in the social sector and the effectiveness of the Climate Justice Funders Pledge.
    (23:24) - A battle of imagination: Family stories and dystopian fictions that bring lessons on how to achieve victories for social justice.
    (32:46) - New suns and surviving the end of the world.
    Episode resources
    Connect with Ashindi Maxton through https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashindi-maxton-970a5b24/ (LinkedIn) and https://www.instagram.com/ashindi/?hl=en (Instagram)
    Learn more about https://www.donorsofcolor.org/our-team/ (Donors of Color Network) including the https://climate.donorsofcolor.org/ (Climate Justice Funders Pledge)
    Check out https://www.octaviabutler.com/work (some of the written works) by Octavia E. Butler
    Read https://eveewing.com/electricarches (Electric Arches) by Eve L. Ewing
    Read https://www.amazon.com/Peace-Every-Step-Mindfulness-Everyday/dp/0553351397 (Peace Is Every Step: The Path of Mindfulness in Everyday Life) by Thich Nhat Hanh
    Read https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Inequalities-Children-Americas-Schools/dp/0770435688 (Savage Inequalities: Children in America's Schools) by Jonathan Kozol
    Read https://www.akpress.org/emergentstrategy.html (Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Words) by Adrienne Maree Brown and listen to the podcast https://www.endoftheworldshow.org/ (How to Survive the End of the World) hosted by Adrienne and her sister Autumn Brown
    Learn more about https://colorofchange.org/ (Color of Change)
    Thank you for listening to Dreaming in Color ahttps://www.bridgespan.org/ ( Bridgespan) supportedhttps://www.studiopodsf.com/ ( StudioPod) production. Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator and Teresa Buchanan is the Show Producer. The production team from The Bridgespan Group includes Cora Daniels, Michael Borger, Christina Pistorius, and Britt Savage. Additional music and editing provided byhttps://nodalab.com/ ( nodalab).

    • 40 min
    Raymond Foxworth, Ph.D.: Innovation & Indigenous Resistance

    Raymond Foxworth, Ph.D.: Innovation & Indigenous Resistance

    Show description
    Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show that provides a platform for BIPOC social change leaders to candidly share how their lived experiences (personal and professional) have prepared them to lead their work and drive the impact we all seek.
    In this episode, Raymond Foxworth joins the show to talk about his experience growing up in a matrilineal society, land preservation as part of his family heritage and the struggles of dealing with white dominant institutions. We address the current state of indigenous land rights and the pressure of representation to honor the legacy and sacrifice of past generations. Raymond shares his view on innovation and we question the general understanding of community development. Listen and connect with Ray’s philosophy of believing and sharing!
    Jump straight into:
    (01:23) - Raymond reads Apologies, a poem by Haunani Kay Trask (and shares the breathtaking story behind it).
    (03:10) - Being a Navajo citizen in 2022: Matrilineal society roots, ethics, values, decisive moments to acquire critical analysis.
    (09:18) - Addressing colonialism struggles, sovereignty, liberation and Indigenous land rights.
    (12:50) - Acknowledging representation, role models and implications when navigating white dominant institutions.
    (20:03) - Innovation as a product of survival, problems within society’s general understanding of community development and redefining what we conceive as assets.
    (27:32) - Believing and caring: The experiences that bring hope to Ray, a protective optimist.
    Episode resources
    Connect with Raymond Foxworth through https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-foxworth/ (LinkedIn)
    Learn more about https://www.rayfoxworth.com/ (Ray Foxword, Ph.D.)
    Learn more about https://www.linkedin.com/company/first-nations-development-institute/ (First Nations Development Institute)
    Thank you for listening to Dreaming in Color a https://www.bridgespan.org/ (Bridgespan) supported https://www.studiopodsf.com/ (StudioPod) production. Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator and Teresa Buchanan is the Show Producer. The production team from The Bridgespan Group includes Cora Daniels, Michael Borger, Christina Pistorius, and Britt Savage. Additional music and editing provided by https://nodalab.com/ (nodalab).

    • 33 min
    Carmen Rojas, Ph.D.: The Promise & Curse of Philanthropy

    Carmen Rojas, Ph.D.: The Promise & Curse of Philanthropy

    Show description
    Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show that provides a platform for BIPOC social change leaders to candidly share how their lived experiences (personal and professional) have prepared them to lead their work and drive the impact we all seek.
    In this episode, Dr. Carmen Rojas, the President and Chief Executive Officer at the Marguerite Casey Foundation, joins the show. She shares stories of her upbringing as a child of Venezuelan and Nicaraguan immigrants, confronts the complexities and contradictions of the social sector, and offers us a space to think and dream boldly. We learn of the familial roots and values that shaped her path toward a Ph.D., brainstorm around collective liberation in an age of mass wealth and inequality, and discuss how philanthropy can sharpen its focus on social justice. Join us as we bask in Carmen’s wit and wisdom.
    Jump straight into:
    (00:21) - Introducing Dr. Carmen Rojas, President and Chief Executive Officer of the Marguerite Casey Foundation.
    (1:51) - Carmen shares a quote on optimism from Freedom is a Constant Struggle by Angela Davis.
    (03:24) - Moving to the US ​​at the peak of the civil rights movement: A cultural perspective on Carmen’s roots and the family dynamics that shaped her.
    (09:19) - Liberation for the public sector: The people and events that encouraged Carmen to focus on social work.
    (14:18) - Everyone should be able to dream: Discussing the radical change that Carmen is working to achieve.
    (18:51) - Our collective being: How Carmen embraces the concept of contradiction to make it powerful and meaningful.
    (22:24) - The urgency of naming: Working to repair a broken system and shift philanthropy in a new direction
    (32:27) - A world organized around liberation: The hopes Carmen carries for our future
    Episode resources
    Follow Carmen Rojas through https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmen-rojas-phd-she-her-1b521316/ (LinkedIn) and https://twitter.com/crojasphd (Twitter)
    Read https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/780-freedom-is-a-constant-struggle (Freedom is a Constant Struggle) by Angela Davis
    Read https://www.amazon.com/Song-Solomon-Toni-Morrison/dp/140003342X (Song of Solomon )by Toni Morrison
    Learn more about Dr. Manuel Pastor’s https://dornsife.usc.edu/eri/manuel-pastor/ (research)
    Know more about https://www.caseygrants.org/ (Marguerite Casey Foundation)
    Learn more about https://greenlining.org/ (the Greenlining Institute)
    Learn more about https://www.kaporcenter.org/ (the Kapor Center)
    Learn more about https://sff.org/team-members/fred-blackwell/ (Fred Blackwell) and https://sff.org/ (the San Francisco Foundation)
    Thank you for listening to Dreaming in Color a https://www.bridgespan.org/ (Bridgespan) supported https://www.studiopodsf.com/ (StudioPod) production. Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator and Teresa Buchanan is the Show Producer. The production team from The Bridgespan Group includes Cora Daniels, Michael Borger, Christina Pistorius, and Britt Savage. Additional music and editing provided by https://nodalab.com/ (nodalab).

    • 36 min
    Urvashi Vaid: The Relay Race to Liberation

    Urvashi Vaid: The Relay Race to Liberation

    Show description
    Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for BIPOC social change leaders to candidly share how their life experiences (personal and professional) have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek.
    In this episode, we welcome Urvashi Vaid, an Indian-American LGBTQ rights activist, lawyer, and writer. She talks about her roots as a student activist and organizer, her early days in the ACLU and the National LGTBQ Task Force, and her stints at the Ford and Arcus Foundations. Forged in the fire of the civil rights and anti-Vietnam war era, the motivation Urvashi carried with her to turn the system on its head was nothing short of relentless. Her work in advocacy, policy, and philanthropy has shaped the bedrock that many of our efforts now rest on. This episode was recorded a few months before Urvashi’s passing. Join us in celebrating her life and genius by listening to her reflections on the triumphs and roadblocks that have led to our present and where we can go from here.
    Jump straight into:
    (01:58) - Introducing Urvashi Vaid, President of The Vaid Group
    (03:22) - What does it mean when the tools of a racist patriarchy are used to examine the fruits of that same patriarchy? Words from Audre Lorde.
    (05:21) - Stoking the fire: Her sense of belonging, tenacity, and passion from a young age as a young lesbian child of immigrants.
    (11:18) - On her foundation: Urvashi’s experience as a student activist and organizer in nontraditional spaces before law school
    (18:20) - Entering the philanthropic space: Pragmatism, people, and power
    (23:24) - On the skills, mentors, and tactics that community engagement created for her professional trajectory
    (30:52) - A space in formation: The efforts toward creating solidarity in and success for the LGBTQ movement
    (35:32) - What is to come: The future fights of social movements, words of hope, and the victories to be achieved
    Episode resources
    Follow Urvashi's work through https://www.linkedin.com/in/urvashivaid/ (LinkedIn)
    Learn more about Urvashi's impact through her https://urvashivaid.net/wp/?page_id=2 (homepage)
    Learn more about https://thevaidgroup.com/team/ (The Vaid Group)
    Discover https://repository.library.northeastern.edu/collections/neu:cj82pv86s (Records from the Bromfield Street Educational Foundation) (formerly Gay Community News)
    Read https://www.amazon.com/Sister-Outsider-Speeches-Crossing-Feminist-ebook/dp/B006L7RCEI/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2T68DEE8NZ8BLandkeywords=tools+audre+lordeandqid=1642548703andsprefix=tools+audre+lorde%2Caps%2C137andsr=8-8 (Sister Outsider: Essays and Speeches), assorted pieces by Audre Lorde
    Read https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UKLDX8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8andbtkr=1 (Home Girls: a Black Feminist Anthology), a compilation by Barbara Smith
    Listen to the https://open.spotify.com/artist/0vYkHhJ48Bs3jWcvZXvOrP (Music of Patti Smith) on Spotify
    Learn more about the https://www.thetaskforce.org/ (National LGBTQ Task Force) (formerly National Gay and Lesbian Task Force)
    Learn more about the https://www.arcusfoundation.org/ (Arcus Foundation)
    Learn more about the https://www.aclu.org/ (American Civil Liberties Union) (ACLU)
    Learn more about the https://www.fordfoundation.org/ (Ford Foundation)
    Thank you for listening to Dreaming in Color a https://www.bridgespan.org/ (Bridgespan) supported https://www.studiopodsf.com/ (StudioPod) production. Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator and Teresa Buchanan is the Show Producer. The production team from The Bridgespan Group includes Cora Daniels, Michael Borger, Christina Pistorius, and Britt Savage. Additional music and editing provided by https://nodalab.com/ (nodalab).

    • 43 min
    Rhonda Broussard: Staying Centered in Joy

    Rhonda Broussard: Staying Centered in Joy

    Show description
    Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for BIPOC social change leaders to candidly share how their life experiences (personal and professional) have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek.
    In this episode, we talk with Rhonda Broussard, an award-winning education entrepreneur, public speaker, a queer Black mother. She is a seasoned educator, global researcher, and the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Beloved Community, a national nonprofit committed to sustainable economic equity in schools, the workforce, and housing. Join this conversation as we discover how to open doors through language, trace the importance of our lineages and loved ones, and interrogate systems that have long needed to be corrected. Tune in as Rhonda returns to the chalkboard to teach us how to lean into our authentic selves, celebrate others, and channel diversity into impact.
    Jump straight into:
    (00:21) - Introducing Rhonda Broussard, author, CEO of Beloved Community, veteran educator and researcher.
    (01:48) - An invocation to set the space, with a powerful quote from All About Love by bell hooks.
    (03:14) - Back to school with Darren: Where does Rhonda's joy come from?
    (05:46) - In community and conversation: Growing up in French, Creole, and English.
    (09:23) - How different languages can unlock different and powerful narratives.
    (11:49) - From the US to Brazil to France: On white supremacy and anti-Blackness across borders.
    (13:47) - Establishing new paradigms of love and impact through Beloved Community.
    (19:17) - Using her positionality: Leveraging power through networks and personhood.
    (24:32) - On commitment to creating change: As a queer Black mother and leader.
    (27:28) - From blog to book: One Good Question and the answers we seek.
    Episode resources
    Connect with Rhonda Broussard through https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhonda-broussard-ab20079/ (LinkedIn) and https://twitter.com/broussardrhonda?lang=en (Twitter)
    Learn more about Rhonda through her https://www.rhondabroussard.com/about (website)
    Learn more about https://www.wearebeloved.org/ (Beloved Community)
    Check out Rhonda’s blog https://www.rhondabroussard.com/blog/tag/one+good+question (One Good Question)
    Pre-order Rhonda’s upcoming book https://tbr-books.org/product/one-good-question (One Good Question), inspired by the blog
    Learn more about the https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/books/bell-hooks-dead.html (works and life) of bell hooks
    Read https://www.amazon.com/killing-rage-Ending-Racism-Book/dp/0805050272 (killing rage: Ending Racism) by bell hooks
    Thank you for listening to Dreaming in Color a https://www.bridgespan.org/ (Bridgespan) supported StudioPod production. Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator and Teresa Buchanan is the Show Producer. The production team from The Bridgespan Group includes Cora Daniels, Michael Borger, Christina Pistorius, and Britt Savage. Additional music and editing provided by https://nodalab.com/ (nodalab).

    • 33 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
41 Ratings

41 Ratings

Alison B. Powell ,

Deep, inspiring, engaging

This podcast engages tremendous leaders on what inspires and uniquely propels the change they are seeking and driving towards. Highly recommend!

hairladee ,

Brilliant demonstration

I’ve just listened to the last three podcast sessions narrated by Brother Darren Isom- so I’m all caught up now!

Can I just say . . .

The show , narration , guests, music and format are all innovative , inspiring and genius.

I love 💕 the way the host uses proficient and carefully chosen French and
English words to describe systems of discrimination and an insider view in the philanthropic world ( I often take notes).

How delightful it is to hear Brother Darren often reference his notable ancestral lineage by weaving his family stories into his themed sessions with guests like an exquisite bowl of New Orleans Gumbo!

Brother Darren’s voice is very reassuringly soothing to listen to and I marvel as he gently keeps his accomplished guests on topic and brings out the essence of who they are in relationship to the session.

The format and time of the podcast is just long enough for the listener to efficiently comprehend the subject without feeling inept. No matter how dismal the outlook may be ~ the podcast never ends without a message of hope and upliftment for humanity.

My favorite parts of this 35 minute podcast are the invocation to open and the epilogue to close the show! Such a wonderful homage to the Southern Black roots traditions.

I hope this podcast is inshrined as a Cd/DVD set- Or even live recorded video sessions!?!

This preeminent podcast reminds me of Nikki Giovanni’s LP series of poems ( backed by a chior) in the 70s

We have to preserve these stories ~ please 😊

Amen 🙏🏾 Ashe 🙏🏾 Encore 🙌🏾

kjf* ,

Handled with Care

Dreaming in Color’s Darren Isom masterfully guides us listeners through thought processes and motivation behind philanthropic work. He is as passionate in his delivery of this podcast as he is the communities he champions funding for. Beautifully done.

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