7 episodes

A podcast about food, biology, and the surprising lessons animals have to teach us humans about what and how to eat. In this series, novelist Charlotte Wood talks with renowned University of Sydney biologists David Raubenheimer and Steve Simpson about their 35 years of work and friendship, and the resulting research findings that provocatively challenge long-held beliefs about nutrition and human health. In the process, we take a look at the serendipitous connections that often lie at the heart of good science, and the insights scientists share with artists.

EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS Stephen Simpson, David Raubenheimer, Charlotte Wood

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A podcast about food, biology, and the surprising lessons animals have to teach us humans about what and how to eat. In this series, novelist Charlotte Wood talks with renowned University of Sydney biologists David Raubenheimer and Steve Simpson about their 35 years of work and friendship, and the resulting research findings that provocatively challenge long-held beliefs about nutrition and human health. In the process, we take a look at the serendipitous connections that often lie at the heart of good science, and the insights scientists share with artists.

    Ep 7. Stepping back, looking up: the bigger picture, and where to now?

    Ep 7. Stepping back, looking up: the bigger picture, and where to now?

    In this final episode, Professors David Raubenheimer and Steve Simpson step back from the details of research to think about the big picture. We hear about how the Charles Perkins Centre's work is modelled on the biology of the human brain, and we learn of the connection between climate change, protein, infectious disease pandemics and our nutrition. Last, we talk about our individual and collective responsibility for creating the systems that harm our health. 

    Hosted by novelist Charlotte Wood, the first writer-in-residence at the Charles Perkins Centre, University of Sydney.

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    EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS

    THE CHARLES PERKINS CENTRE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY

    CHARLOTTE WOOD

    • 34 min
    Ep 6. Petrol in your ice cream: what ultra-processing has done to our diets

    Ep 6. Petrol in your ice cream: what ultra-processing has done to our diets

    This extended episode we’re learning about the four kinds of food processing and how each has changed our diets. Earlier, we learned of the five appetites driving human food preferences - but now Professors David Raubenheimer and Steve Simpson discuss an even more powerful craving. It's the appetite for profit, and it’s destroying the ability of many of us to keep ourselves healthy. As well, we learn about how and why protein needs change throughout our lives.

    Hosted by novelist Charlotte Wood, the first writer-in-residence at the Charles Perkins Centre, University of Sydney.

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    EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS

    THE CHARLES PERKINS CENTRE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY

    CHARLOTTE WOOD

    • 58 min
    Ep 5. From fire to farm to factory: the evolution & industrialisation of human food environments

    Ep 5. From fire to farm to factory: the evolution & industrialisation of human food environments

    Last time we looked at how animals' environments provide for their nutritional health. In this episode Professors David Raubenheimer and Steve Simpson step us through key evolutionary developments in human nutrition, from the first use of fire to the start of industrialised food production, and what each big change has meant for our bodies, our societies and our health.

    Hosted by novelist Charlotte Wood, the first writer-in-residence at the Charles Perkins Centre, University of Sydney.

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    EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS

    THE CHARLES PERKINS CENTRE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY

    CHARLOTTE WOOD

    • 42 min
    Ep 4. Into the wild: Diet tips from grasshoppers, spider monkeys & the orangutans of Borneo

    Ep 4. Into the wild: Diet tips from grasshoppers, spider monkeys & the orangutans of Borneo

    Moving out of the lab and into the wild, Professors David Raubenheimer and Steve Simpson take a look at how animals' natural environments provide everything they need for a healthy diet. From chasing a single grasshopper through the Arizona desert to measuring the urine of wild Borneo orang-utans, David explains how carefully animals in the wild select what they eat, and why. And we hear about some of the risks taken by passionate scientists living among the animals for their research.

    Hosted by novelist Charlotte Wood, the first writer-in-residence at the Charles Perkins Centre, University of Sydney.

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    EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS

    THE CHARLES PERKINS CENTRE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY

    CHARLOTTE WOOD

    • 38 min
    Ep 3: What fruit flies and fat mice can tell us about living healthier for longer

    Ep 3: What fruit flies and fat mice can tell us about living healthier for longer

    In Episode 3 Professors Steve Simpson and David Raubenheimer take us through further experiments - this time on humans, fruit flies and mice - to discover that there's a difference between 'benign' and unhealthy obesity, and a tradeoff between longevity and reproduction when it comes to the amount of protein we eat. And we discover why when you're craving barbecue-flavoured chips, you should eat an egg instead. 

    Hosted by novelist Charlotte Wood, the first writer-in-residence at the Charles Perkins Centre, University of Sydney.

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    EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS

    THE CHARLES PERKINS CENTRE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY

    CHARLOTTE WOOD

    • 38 min
    Ep 2: Big discoveries: the 'five appetites' & protein leverage

    Ep 2: Big discoveries: the 'five appetites' & protein leverage

    What drives our food preferences? In Episode 2 Professors Steve Simpson and David Raubenheimer explain their breakthrough discovery about what animals eat and why. They take us through some of their research with insects, spiders, cats, dogs, primates and humans, all leading to the 'protein leverage hypothesis' - the profound change in thinking about what drives our human appetites. Along the way we hear about the challenges of holding your nerve in overturning long-held scientific beliefs. 

    Hosted by novelist Charlotte Wood, the first writer-in-residence at the Charles Perkins Centre, University of Sydney.

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    EAT LIKE THE ANIMALS

    THE CHARLES PERKINS CENTRE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY

    CHARLOTTE WOOD

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
3 Ratings

3 Ratings

Adn.Awd ,

Great podcast

Just finished the first episodes, after reading your book and many other of your scientific papers, I’m more interested in knowing about your fascinating work...
Glad I found you here... as a medical doctor, nutrition started to make sense to me after adopting your theories and ideas

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