Eating the Apple

Eating the Apple

Two non-believers read the Bible to see if a plain reading will convert them to Christianity. The hosts, Chris and Jeff, approach the Bible with a serious effort and a desire to understand where believers are coming from. They discuss their personal beliefs, their curiosity about the Bible, and their intention to expand their knowledge base. The podcast aims to provide a measured and honest exploration of the Bible's claims, while also encouraging empathy and understanding between believers and non-believers.

  1. 07/07/2024

    Episode 13: Exodus 14-16

    In this episode, Jeff and Chris discuss the events of Exodus 14, where the Israelites are on the run from the Egyptians. God instructs Moses to lead the Israelites in a confusing loop back, which confuses Pharaoh. The Israelites become fearful when they see the Egyptians pursuing them, but Moses reassures them that God will deliver them. God then parts the Red Sea, allowing the Israelites to cross on dry ground. The Egyptians follow, but the sea closes in on them, drowning them all. The Israelites witness this miracle and put their trust in God. In this part of the conversation, Chris and Jeff discuss the repetition in the book of Exodus and the need to recognize when God is acting. They question the purpose of the constant repetition and wonder if they are missing something. They also discuss the exultant song of Moses and Miriam and the role of Miriam as a prophetess. They highlight the poetic language used in the song and the acknowledgement of other gods by the Israelites. They also raise questions about the significance of the mountain of God and the future of the Israelites. In this part of the conversation, Jeff and Chris discuss the story of Moses leading the Israelites through the desert and the concept of manna from heaven. They explore the meaning behind the biblical numbers mentioned in the text and the significance of the instructions given by God. They also discuss the possible explanations for manna, including the idea that it could be a substance excreted by a specific tree. Jeff shares his motivations for exploring the Bible and his growing understanding and appreciation for believers. They conclude by expressing their excitement for delving deeper into the stories and interpretations of the Bible.

    1h 28m
  2. 06/30/2024

    Episode 12: Exodus 12-13 (The Passover) w/Rabbi Geoffrey Dennis

    In this conversation, Rabbi Geoffrey Dennis joins the hosts to discuss the Passover festival. They explore various aspects of the Passover, including the instructions for selecting and preparing the lamb, the significance of the blood on the doorframe, and the symbolism of eating unleavened bread. They also touch on the connection between the Passover and the Christian concept of Jesus as the sacrificial lamb. Rabbi Dennis provides insights into the historical and cultural context of the Passover and offers multiple interpretations of its rituals and practices. In this part of the conversation, Rabbi Dennis discusses the concept of death in the biblical context and the various interpretations of the consequences of disobedience. He also explains the significance of the divisions or armies of Israel leaving Egypt and the possible meanings behind the gesture of raised hands. The conversation then delves into the rituals and traditions of the Passover celebration, including the four questions and the importance of storytelling. Rabbi Dennis also touches on the modern-day interpretations and practices of Passover in the absence of the temple. In this conversation, Jeff and Chris discuss various aspects of the Exodus story, including the land of milk and honey, the significance of unleavened bread, and the route taken by the Israelites. They also explore the concept of chiasms in the Bible and the importance of certain verses in Exodus 12:40-51. The conversation highlights the complexities and interpretations of biblical texts and the role of scholarship in understanding them.

    1h 32m
  3. 06/23/2024

    Episode 11: Exodus 7-12 (The Plagues)

    In this part of the conversation, Jeff and Chris discuss the promises made to Jacob and Esau and how they both ended up with blessings. They also analyze the hardening of Pharaoh's heart and his response to the plagues. They question Pharaoh's intelligence and his willingness to challenge God's power. They also discuss the precision of the plagues and Pharaoh's calculated response. The conversation ends with the discussion of the plague of frogs and the introduction of the plague of gnats. In this part of the conversation, Chris and Jeff discuss the significance of the finger of God and the right hand in the context of the plagues. They also explore the distinction between Goshen and the rest of Egypt in terms of the plagues. They question why God spared the Israelites from the flies but not from the previous plagues. They also discuss the detestable sacrifices and the role of livestock in the story. They ponder why Pharaoh's heart was hardened and why he didn't let the Israelites go despite the plagues. They also question the effectiveness of the plagues and the reasoning behind God's actions. In this part of the conversation, the focus is on the plagues and the interactions between Moses, Aaron, and Pharaoh. The discussion touches on the significance of the plagues and their impact on the Egyptians, as well as the role of Moses as a leader. There is also a reflection on the morality of the Bible and the different interpretations of its teachings. The conversation ends with a discussion on the Pharaoh's response to Moses' request to let the Israelites go. In this part of the conversation, Jeff and Chris discuss the concept of God's judgment and the plagues in Egypt. They question why God would bring destruction and suffering upon the Egyptians, and why He would harden Pharaoh's heart. They also discuss the role of the east wind in causing destruction and the significance of the darkness that covered Egypt. They ponder the distinction between the gods of Egypt and the power of Yahweh. The conversation ends with a discussion about the upcoming Passover and the instructions given to the Israelites. In this final part of the conversation, Jeff and Neck discuss the instructions for the Passover ceremony and the redemption of the firstborn. They question the relevance of putting blood on the door for Passover in modern times and explore the rituals associated with redeeming the firstborn. They also discuss the logistics of the Israelites leaving Egypt and the significance of the 430 years mentioned in the Bible. They reflect on the challenges of reconciling the numbers and genealogies in the biblical text and the implications for the authenticity of the story.

    2h 15m
  4. 06/09/2024

    Episode 9: Exodus 1-2

    In this conversation, Jeff and Neck discuss their preparations for reading the book of Exodus. They share their thoughts on the authorship of Exodus and the different perspectives on who wrote it. They also discuss the number of Israelites in Egypt and the oppression they faced. They question the logic of the Pharaoh's actions and the role of God in the midst of their suffering. In this part of the conversation, Jeff and Neck discuss the events in Exodus 1 and the beginning of Exodus 2. They talk about the missed opportunity to include the story of Moses being saved from the Nile in the text. They also discuss the significance of Moses being a fine child and the use of the papyrus basket. They question why Pharaoh's daughter would adopt a Hebrew child and why Moses would kill an Egyptian taskmaster. They also mention Moses fleeing to Midian and helping the daughters of the priest of Midian. In this part of the conversation, Jeff and Neck discuss the story of Moses and his time in Midian. They explore the significance of Moses being mistaken for an Egyptian and the potential reasons for him speaking with an Egyptian accent. They also discuss the names of Moses' wife and son and the possible connections to the modern-day makeup company Sephora. The conversation then shifts to the death of the king of Egypt and the retconning of pharaoh names in the Bible. They question the purpose of the suffering endured by the Israelites and the lack of explanation from God. They also reflect on the challenges of approaching the Bible from different perspectives and the importance of seeking understanding.

    1h 3m

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Two non-believers read the Bible to see if a plain reading will convert them to Christianity. The hosts, Chris and Jeff, approach the Bible with a serious effort and a desire to understand where believers are coming from. They discuss their personal beliefs, their curiosity about the Bible, and their intention to expand their knowledge base. The podcast aims to provide a measured and honest exploration of the Bible's claims, while also encouraging empathy and understanding between believers and non-believers.