Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver

Interviews from the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry. We cover topics like Investing, listings, buyers, brokerage, technology, entrepreneurship and so much more. Brought to you by KevinandFred.com

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    It’s Not What You Say, It’s When You Say It

    Most agents are trained to be fast — fast to respond, fast to solve, fast to give an answer. But Kevin Kauffman makes the case that speed might be costing you more than it's earning you. In this solo episode, Kevin breaks down the communication shift that separates average agents from the ones people actually want to follow. This one is practical, tactical, and honestly a little uncomfortable, because it means slowing down when everything in your training says speed up. If you're leading a team, working with clients, or trying to grow your business through recruiting, this framework will change how you show up in every conversation. In this episode, Kevin covers: Why jumping to your opinion first quietly kills your influence even when you're right The order of operations that high-level communicators use (questions → curiosity → understanding → opinion) Why understanding creates permission to lead and why authority, experience, and numbers don't A real-world listing appointment example: how to handle the seller who insists their home is worth $750K when the comps say otherwise How the same framework applies to recruiting conversations when an agent says "I'm thinking about staying where I'm at" The four-step framework: Clarify → Explore → Validate → Lead Why leadership isn't about having the right answers, it's about getting people to move If this episode fired you up and you're thinking about what it would look like to be part of a team that coaches, mentors, and actually invests in your growth, check out what we're building at eXp. Learn more at nextlevelagents.com/exp Want to catch us live? Head to the events tab at nextlevelagents.com for our upcoming virtual and in-person masterminds.

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    The World Isn’t What You Think… And It’s Costing You

    Most agents aren't losing because the market is bad. They're losing because their view of the market is distorted — and they don't know it. In this solo episode, Kevin Kauffman breaks down the psychology of misperception: why we default to worst-case thinking, how that drives bad decisions, and what it actually takes to see clearly in a chaotic market. This one hits different. It's not tactics. It's the foundation underneath every tactic — and if it's cracked, nothing else works. Key themes from this episode: Why the data says the world is improving — even when headlines say it's falling apart The "two types of people" trap that makes you misjudge your market, your clients, and your competition How blame creates the illusion of a simple explanation — and keeps you stuck Why urgency is the enemy of clear thinking and strategic action The difference between reacting to a moment and responding to a trend Why high performers aren't the fastest — they're the most consistent and the most accurate A simple playbook for slowing down and asking better questions when things feel chaotic If this episode made you think differently about how you're showing up in your business right now, that's the point. The agents who win long-term aren't the most emotional — they're the most clear. If you're ready to build that kind of business, come find out what Next Level Agents is all about. 👉 nextlevelagents.com/exp

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    Next Level Truth #5: Most Agents Are Addicted to Easy

    You're busy. You're working hard. So why isn't your business growing the way it should? In this episode, Kevin Kauffman delivers the fifth and final truth in his Next Level Truths series — and it might be the most uncomfortable one yet. The problem isn't your market. It isn't your leads. It's the daily choice most agents don't even realize they're making. This one is short, focused, and built to hit. Kevin breaks down the hidden cost of staying comfortable, why burnout isn't from working too hard, and what separates high performers from everyone else grinding through the motions. Key themes from this episode: The difference between being busy and being effective — and why most agents confuse the two What "addicted to easy" actually looks like in your day-to-day business (hint: it's not laziness) Why organizing your CRM, watching training videos, and planning your week can all be forms of avoidance The comfort trap: how agents build businesses around what feels safe instead of what produces results Where burnout actually comes from — and it's not what most people think The single question to ask yourself before every task: "Is this easy, or is this effective?" Kevin's closing challenge: one uncomfortable action tomorrow to start building real momentum If this episode hit home, share it with another agent who needs to hear it. And if you're ready to build your business around what actually works — surrounded by people doing the same — learn more about what we're building at Next Level Agents.

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    Next Level Truth #4: Discipline Beats Talent

    Talent is overrated. There. We said it. In this episode of Next Level Truths, Kevin Kauffman breaks down one of the most misunderstood dynamics in real estate: why consistency will always outperform natural ability, and why most agents are chasing the wrong thing when they wait for motivation to show up before they take action. This is a short, focused episode, but don't let that fool you. The shift Kevin lays out here is one of the most practical reframes you can make in your business right now. If your results have been inconsistent, this is probably why. And the fix isn't complicated... it's just not easy. In this episode, Kevin covers: Why the "talent myth" keeps agents stuck and how to stop falling for it The real difference between discipline and habit — and why that distinction matters for your business Why operating from emotion is the #1 consistency killer The compound effect of daily action and what 90–180 days of consistency can actually produce How to stop asking "how do I get motivated?" and start asking the right question instead A simple, practical challenge to reset your habits starting this week If your business feels unpredictable right now, this episode is your starting point. Consistency isn't a personality trait — it's a choice. And the agents who make that choice every day are the ones building something that lasts. Ready to surround yourself with agents who are making that choice and building at the highest level? Learn more at nextlevelagents.com/exp.

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    Next Level Truth #3: Your Calendar Is Your Business Plan

    Most agents have goals. Most agents have intentions. But intentions don't close deals — your calendar does. In this episode of the Next Level Truths series, Kevin Kauffman breaks down one of the most uncomfortable realities in real estate: your calendar is your actual business plan, whether you like what it says or not. If your days are filled with reactive tasks, random coffees, and administrative busywork, that's not bad luck — that's a choice. And the good news is, it's a choice you can change starting today. In this episode, Kevin covers: The "intention gap" — why there's a dangerous disconnect between what agents say matters and what actually shows up on their calendar Why top producers schedule their most important activities first, not last The four core activities that actually drive results in real estate (and why everything else is a distant second) The "protection principle" — how to guard your time blocks like a listing appointment you can't afford to lose Why "priority" is a singular word, and what that means for how you run your week A practical, no-fluff framework for building a calendar that reflects the business you actually want A simple 15-minute challenge to audit your last week and reset your focus going forward If your business isn't where you want it to be, the answer isn't a new strategy or a new tool. Open your calendar. That's where the truth lives. Ready to build a business — and a calendar — that actually gets you to the next level? Learn more about what we're building at nextlevelagents.com/exp.

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    More Deals, More Freedom (Building a Real Estate Business That Runs on Virtual Assistants)

    Most real estate agents think leverage means hiring a team. Dave Zajdzinski built something different: a fully leveraged solo business that runs 8am to 8pm, seven days a week, across multiple time zones, while he's in Italy, France, or Maine. And real estate is his fifth priority. In this episode, Kevin Kauffman sits down with Dave to pull back the curtain on exactly how that system works, from the drip videos that generate listing appointments on autopilot, to the VA-managed CRM pipeline that moves buyers from first call to offer without Dave ever showing a house. If you've ever thought about hiring a virtual assistant but weren't sure how to make it actually work, this conversation is the one you've been waiting for. Key themes from this episode: Why 70% of first-time VA hires fail, and the two root causes nobody is addressing How Dave runs a real estate business as his fifth priority and still ranks near the top of his state in production The "airline model" for explaining your business structure to buyers (and why it closes them faster) How to build an irresistible offer drip sequence that makes ISA appointments easy to set The difference between leverage for growth and leverage for freedom — and why most agents need the second one first Dave's new "CRM Assist" product: seven-day-a-week buyer pipeline coverage for $750/month Why giving VAs culture and community is the missing piece most businesses skip entirely What it really costs to build an 8am–8pm system from scratch — and a smarter path to get there If this episode fired you up about what your business could look like with the right leverage in place, the next step is simple, head to nextlevelagents.com/exp to learn more about building your business inside a community that's already figured this out. Connect with Dave Zajdzinski: Website: leverageagent.org Phone: 480-332-6468 Event: 1-Day Marketing Audit Workshop Date: June 10, 2026 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Ticket price: $500 (use code KevinK for a free ticket) Details and registration: nextlevelagents.com (Events tab) Please leave us a review at⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ratethispodcast.com/nla⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Interviews from the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry. We cover topics like Investing, listings, buyers, brokerage, technology, entrepreneurship and so much more. Brought to you by KevinandFred.com

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