14 episodes

Enneagram Mapmakers explores the interior landscape of the ego through conversations with legacy teachers such as Richard Rohr, Helen Palmer and Russ Hudson. Hosted by Christopher Heuertz, author of The Sacred Enneagram and The Enneagram of Belonging, this podcast journeys to the origins of an ancient and often misunderstood system designed to help us live a more embodied and integrated life. Transcend the temptation to fixate on a specific number and discover how to embrace all types within you.

Enneagram Mapmakers with Christopher Heuertz Center for Action and Contemplation

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8, 224 Ratings

Enneagram Mapmakers explores the interior landscape of the ego through conversations with legacy teachers such as Richard Rohr, Helen Palmer and Russ Hudson. Hosted by Christopher Heuertz, author of The Sacred Enneagram and The Enneagram of Belonging, this podcast journeys to the origins of an ancient and often misunderstood system designed to help us live a more embodied and integrated life. Transcend the temptation to fixate on a specific number and discover how to embrace all types within you.

    Beatrice Chestnut

    Beatrice Chestnut

    In this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz interviews Beatrice Chestnut the author of The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge. Bea’s breath-taking vulnerability about the loss of a dear friend offers a rare glimpse into what’s shaped her deep compassion she’s known for today. Bea also honors the late Dr. David Daniels by reflecting on the significance of his legacy. In this episode, Beatrice sets forth a challenge to all Enneagram teachers and practitioners to cultivate best practices to remain accountable and grounded in this work. But the highlights of this conversation focus on Bea’s work clearing up the nuances often misunderstood in the Enneagram’s Instincts and Subtypes theories.
    Beatrice Chestnut is a licensed psychotherapist, author, coach, host of the Enneagram 2.0 podcast, and co-founded of the Chestnut Paes Enneagram Academy.
    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org

    • 1 hr 11 min
    The Enneagram of Belonging

    The Enneagram of Belonging

    On today's episode, Chris and his producer Corey are talking about the Enneagram of Belonging. Corey and Phileena (Chris's wife) surprise Chris with several of his friends and family to be a part of a special episode celebrating the release of Chris's new book in a time when there is no book release party or book tours.
    Special thanks to: Paul K, Anahi S, Kirsten Powers, Jeelan, Ryan Meeks, Micky ScottBey Jones, Ryan O'Neal, The Hartzells, Michelle Meeks, Mariah Houston, Vera Leung, Dr. Avon, Ying Guo, Amber Redmond, Gabes Torres, Brent & Micah Crampton, Adam Heuertz and the Girls, Nhien Vuong, Bethel Lee and David Namkung, Cherini Ghobrial, Talía Guerrero, Hannah Paasch and Phileena Heuertz for making all of this special and possible.

    • 55 min
    Jack Labanauskas

    Jack Labanauskas

    In this episode Jack Labanauskas reflects on the evolution of the Enneagram’s modern expression through his thorough engagement with anyone who’s made a significant contribution to the system over the past 30 years. Jack offers an intimate snapshot of the very private life and mind of the late Óscar Ichazo—especially his attitude towards using the Enneagram to describe personality. Jack also offers some hope for where the tradition can go if we remain openminded and openhearted.
    Jack Labanauskas is the preeminent historian of the modern Enneagram of Personality. He’s been editing Enneagram Monthly for the past 25 years, creating a peer-review forum for innovative ideas to find life in conversation with the EnneaCurious. 
    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Michael Goldberg

    Michael Goldberg

    In this episode Michael Goldberg talks about mythology and the Enneagram. He reflects on learning the Enneagram from his old neighbors, Óscar Ichazo’s Arican Institute. Michael also asserts the wings are more important than our Enneagram base point, or our dominant the, explaining this through thoughts on how movement is essential in working our Enneagram type.
    Michael is a writer, speaker and consultant, he is also a long time teacher of the Enneagram approach to personality types. His books include The 9 Ways of Working: How to Use the Enneagram to Discover Your Natural Strengths and Work More Effectively and his brilliant work mapping the Enneagram through Homer’s epic poem, The Odyssey in Travels with Odysseus: Uncommon Wisdom from Homer's Odyssey.
    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org
    This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Helen Palmer

    Helen Palmer

    On today's episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris sits down with Helen Palmer. She is among the most influential Enneagram teachers and authors in the modern era of this tradition. Her first book The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and the Others In Your Life, set the standard for type descriptions and has become an international bestseller.  
    In this episode Helen guides us in an inner witness awareness practice. Not only is this Helen’s very first podcast but her vulnerability here is inspiring as she reveals parts of her story publicly for the first time.
    Helen Palmer is a teacher of psychology and intuition, and a Core Faculty member of The Narrative Enneagram. In 1994, Helen and the late Dr. David Daniels co-chaired the first International Enneagram Conference at Stanford University. She is also a Founding Director of the International Enneagram Association.
    This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Jerry Wagner

    Jerry Wagner

    If you are looking for credible academic research studies on the Enneagram, then you’ll love Chris’s conversation with Dr. Jerry Wagner on this week’s episode of Enneagram Mapmakers. Jerry’s wisdom reminds us that we typically view the world through lenses but usually don’t examine the lenses themselves. He’s candid and vulnerable, while provocative in untangling some of the Enneagram’s convoluted theories.
    Jerry Wagner is a retired teaching professor in the Department of Psychology at Loyola University, Chicago and was among the earliest students of the Enneagram in the United States. His statistically validated Wagner Enneagram Personality Style Scales (WEPPS) is one of the most reliable Enneagram tests available. He’s also the author of several books including Nine Lenses on the World: the Enneagram Perspective and The Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide.
    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org
    This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

    • 1 hr 7 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
224 Ratings

224 Ratings

mike beans ,

Spiritual Food

A good podcast typically relies on someone who can interview people well. Chris Huertz is so so good at this and asks such great questions, while also allowing his guests to answer thoughtfully and highlighting there thoughts. So so good.

camellia blossoms ,

Interesting and yet...

I’m enjoying these conversations for the most part but I agree with the comments about the jarring introduction and the constant hmmm-ing. I can’t stand it when people do that noise with me when I’m talking with them - which only happens with “spiritual” people. I know the idea behind it, but I’d much prefer something that sounds like an authentic expression or nothing at all.

britrece ,

Refreshing

Each week, I’ve looked forward to these conversations and while I expected to have my head and intellect engaged, I didn’t realize how much the conversations would work its way into my heart like a life giving cup of water. The history, the relational aspect, the honest searching and giving of themselves by Chris and each of his guests is a godsend to every listener.

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