PODCAST DESCRIPTION In this candid episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with executive coach and Consciously CEO Kvon Tucker to talk about what it really takes to break away from dominant leadership standards – especially inside big-name companies like Netflix, Amazon, and Google. Kvon shares how a suicidal depression in his late 20s became a turning point, why he ultimately walked away from a “dream” tech career, and how he and his family ended up in Costa Rica designing a more human, spiritually aligned life. Kvon unpacks the dangerous mix of hypergrowth, fear-based leadership, and ego-driven cultures – and what it looks like to lead consciously instead, in a way that centers love, liberation, and human wellbeing. This is a below the surface conversation about work, worth, ego, redemption, and the kind of leadership our world actually needs right now. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation, we explore: How Kvon’s mental health crisis woke him up to a life and career he didn’t actually choose. His path through Netflix, Amazon, and Google – and what was really happening beneath the “best places to work” branding. The “dark triad” traits that often get rewarded in dominant leadership cultures, and why they’re so harmful. Hypergrowth vs. natural growth: why the pace that works for business often breaks human bodies. Three practices Kvon recommends for anyone who wants to lead more consciously: meditation, healing work (like therapy), and coaching. ABOUT OUR GUEST – KVON TUCKER Kvon Tucker is an executive coach and the CEO of Consciously, a coaching and consulting company that helps leaders build more conscious, human-centered organizations. Before founding Consciously, he led manager and leadership development at companies including Netflix, Amazon, and Google. Today, Kvon coaches leaders around the world as they navigate identity shifts, burnout, and the desire to lead in a way that’s more aligned with their values, spiritual growth, and real life. He lives in Costa Rica with his wife and daughter. KEY INSIGHTS Dominant leadership standards are often built on fear, hypergrowth, and ego – not love, wellness, or liberation. Big-name “dream companies” can simultaneously offer incredible opportunities and deeply misaligned cultures. Both can be true. Hypergrowth works for revenue, but it’s usually unsustainable for human nervous systems and family life. Many leaders are waking up to the fact that the path they’ve been on is no longer serving them – there’s a real shift in collective consciousness happening. Ego isn’t always “bad.” It can be redirected toward growth and impact when we’re aware of it and in relationship with it. You can’t be serious about liberation if you’re not serious about practices that help you know yourself – like meditation, therapy, and coaching. LEARN MORE: If this conversation resonated, here are a few ways to go deeper: Work with Kvon or learn more about his work Website: https://consciously.one LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvontucker Explore Coaching Below the Surface (ICF-approved coach training) Learn more about the Coaching Below the Surface program and upcoming cohorts: https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/ Work with LaTonya & Change Coaches Learn about keynotes, leadership development, and coaching for executives and teams: https://changecoaches.io Connect with LaTonya & Change Coaches LaTonya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/ Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches Listen & follow the podcast Follow “Leading Below the Surface” wherever you listen to podcasts, and share this episode with someone who’s questioning dominant leadership standards or reevaluating their own path.