CHAOSScast

CHAOSS Project

This CHAOSS Community podcast features members who spent considerable time and effort to understand open source community health and how we can measure it through metrics, analytics, and software. We invite guests to this podcast to talk about how they use open source community health metrics and software in their own open source communities, companies, or foundations. This podcast fills the gap with open source community metric definitions and software on one side and their use on the other side.

  1. Episode 120: Practitioner Guides: #5 Demonstrating Organizational Value

    6일 전

    Episode 120: Practitioner Guides: #5 Demonstrating Organizational Value

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 120 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Harmony Elendu hosts a discussion with Dawn Foster and Bob Killen to discuss their extensive experience in open source and detail the motivations behind the creation of the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides. These guides aim to help practitioners navigate the overwhelming amount of data related to open source projects and understand how to improve project health and sustainability. The discussion covers strategies for communicating the business value of open source efforts to leadership, framing contributions in a way that resonates with organizational priorities, and prioritizing investments in critical projects. Press download now! [00:00:31] Dawn and Bob introduce themselves and their backgrounds. [00:02:24] Dawn explains why CHAOSS created Practitioner Guides: to help navigate the “tsunami of data” from open source metrics. The new guide is different and is focused on demonstrating organizational value. [00:04:36] Harmony asks about the inspiration for the guide. Dawn credits Bob and how the guide was built largely from his talks at KubeCon and the Linux Foundation Member Summit. [00:05:22] Bob talks about macroeconomic pressures where open source is often first cut. The guide helps orgs tell compelling stories to leadership about open source ROI. [00:07:14] Bob shares a case study: maintainers reframed contributions in leadership’s language- revenue impact, bug fix turnaround, and resource efficiency and how this secured leadership support. Dawn adds that every organization values different things and provides an example. [00:11:36] Bob introduces the formula: Priority = Criticality x Health. [00:13:36] Dawn emphasizes formula helps orgs prioritize strategically critical but under-resourced projects (example: Kubernetes cluster API at VMware). Bob notes criticality differs by company and even department. [00:16:51] Harmony ask how to report open source value to leadership. Bob explains the importance of framing in leadership’s language, not just raw contribution counts. Dawn warns against poor framing and explains about being careful about how you talk to leadership about your open source efforts. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:20:47] Dawn’s pick is discovery how easy it was to build a static site with GitHub Pages and Jekyll. [00:21:38] Bob’s pick is dosu.dev. [00:22:18] Harmony’s pick is exploring AI models for fraud detection and system tracking. Panelists: Harmony Elendu Guests: Dawn Foster Bob Killen Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Dawn Foster X (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Bob Killen Website (https://mrbobbytabl.es/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL60k37cxI-HSHV4-rEsWMzExw2y2Oq79Z) CHAOSS Data Science Working Group: New Guides, Research, and More (Blog Post by Dawn Foster (https://chaoss.community/chaoss-data-science-working-group-new-guides-research-and-more/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guide: Getting Started with Sunsetting an Open Source Project (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-sunset/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guide: Getting Started with Building Diverse Leadership (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-diverse-leadership/) GitHub Pages documentation (https://docs.github.com/en/pages) Jekyll (https://jekyllrb.com/) Dosu (https://dosu.dev/) Special Guest: Bob Killen.

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  2. Episode 119: Guest Episode - Sustain asks how Ecosyste.ms maps open source dependencies

    9월 18일

    Episode 119: Guest Episode - Sustain asks how Ecosyste.ms maps open source dependencies

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 119 In this episode of CHAOSScast, we have a special episode from our friends at Sustain. Host Richard Littauer from Sustain is joined by guests Ben Nickolls and Andrew Nesbitt to discuss the ecosyste.ms project. They explore how ecosyste.ms collects and analyzes metadata from various open-source projects to create a comprehensive database that can help improve funding allocation. The discussion covers the importance of funding the most critical open-source projects, the existing gaps in funding, and the partnership between ecosyste.ms and Open Source Collective to create funding algorithms that support entire ecosystems. They also talk about the challenges of maintaining data, reaching out to project maintainers, and the broader implications for the open-source community. Hit the download button now! [00:03:16] Andrew and Ben explain ecosyste.ms, what it does, and how it compares to Libraries.io. [00:06:17] Ecosyste.ms tracks metadata, not the packages themselves, and enriches data via dependency graphs, committers, issues, SBOMs, and more. [00:08:12] Andrew talks about finding 1,890 Git hosts and how many critical projects live outside GitHub. [00:09:55] There’s a conversation on metadata uses and SBOM parsing. [00:14:07] Richard inquires about the ecosystem.ms funds on their website which Andrew explains it’s a collaboration between Open Collective and ecosyste.ms. that algorithmically distributes funds to the most used, not most popular packages. [00:17:03] Ben shares how this is different from previous projects and brings up a past project, “Back Your Stack” and explains how ecosyste.ms is doing two things differently. [00:20:17] Ben explains how it supports payouts to other platforms and encourages maintainers to adopt funding YAML files for automation. Andrew touches on efficient outreach, payout management, and API usage (GraphQL). [00:26:54] Ben elaborates on how companies can fund ecosyste.ms (like Django) instead of curating their own lists and being inspired by Sentry’s work with the Open Source Pledge. [00:30:50] Andrew speaks about scaling and developer engagement and emphasizes their focus is on high-impact sustainability. [00:34:06] Richard asks, “Why does it matter?” Ben explains that most current funding goes to popular, not most used projects and ecosyste.ms aims to fix the gap with data backed funding, and he suggests use of open standards like 360Giving and Open Contracting Data. [00:37:04] Andrew shares his thoughts on funding the right projects by improving 1% of OSS, you uplift the quality of millions of dependent projects with healthier infrastructure, faster security updates, and more resilient software. [00:39:53] Find out where you can follow ecosyste.ms and the blog on the web. Quotes: [00:12:36] “I call them interesting forks. If a fork is referenced by a package, it’ll get indexed.” [00:23:25] We’ve built a service that now moves like $25 million a year between OSS maintainers on OSC.” [00:34:41] “We don’t have enough information to make collective decisions about which projects, communities, maintainers, should receive more funding.” [00:35:41] “The NSF POSE Program has distributed hundreds of millions of dollars of funding to open source communities alone.” [00:37:05] “If you have ten, twenty thousand really critical open source projects, that actually isn’t unachievable to make those projects sustainable.” Spotlight: [00:40:53] Ben’s spotlight is Jellyfin. [00:41:38]** **Andrew’s spotlight is zizmor. [00:43:39] Richard’s spotlight is The LaTeX Project. Panelist: Richard Littauer Guests: Ben Nickolls Andrew Nesbitt Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Alice Sowerby LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk) SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) richard@sustainoss.org (mailto:richard@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) SustainOSS Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/sustainoss.bsky.social) SustainOSS LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/sustainoss/) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Ben Nickolls LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamuk/) Andrew Nesbitt Website (https://nesbitt.io/) Andrew Nesbitt Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@andrewnez) Octobox (https://github.com/octobox) ecosyste.ms (https://ecosyste.ms/) ecosyste.ms Blog (https://blog.ecosyste.ms/) Open Source Collective (https://oscollective.org/) Open Source Collective Updates (https://opencollective.com/opensource/updates) Open Source Collective Contributions (https://opencollective.com/opensource) Open Source Collective Contributors (https://opencollective.com/open-source) Open Collective (https://opencollective.com/) 24 Pull Requests (https://24pullrequests.com/) Libraries.io (https://libraries.io/) The penumbra of open source (EPJ Data Science) (https://epjdatascience.springeropen.com/articles/10.1140/epjds/s13688-022-00345-7) FOSDEM ’25- Open source funding: you’re doing it wrong (Andrew and Ben) (https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-5576-open-source-funding-you-re-doing-it-wrong/) Vue.js (https://vuejs.org/) thanks.dev (https://thanks.dev/home) StackAid (https://www.stackaid.us/) Back Your Stack (https://backyourstack.com/) NSF POSE (https://www.nsf.gov/funding/initiatives/pathways-enable-open-source-ecosystems) Django (https://www.djangoproject.com/) GitHub Sponsors (https://github.com/sponsors) Sustain Podcast-Episode 80: Emma Irwin and the Foss Fund Program (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/80) Sustain Podcast- 3 Episodes featuring Chad Whitacre (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/chad-whitacre) Sustain Podcast- Episode 218: Karthik Ram & James Howison on Research Software Visibility Infrastructure Priorities (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/218) Sustain Podcast-Episode 247: Chad Whitacre on the Open Source Pledge (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/247) Invest in Open Infrastructure (https://investinopen.org/) 360Giving (https://www.360giving.org/) Open Contracting Data Standard (https://standard.open-contracting.org/latest/en/) Jellyfin (https://opencollective.com/jellyfin) zizmor (https://github.com/zizmorcore/zizmor) The LaTeX Project (https://www.latex-project.org/) Special Guests: Andrew Nesbitt, Benjamin Nickolls, and Richard Littauer.

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  3. Episode 118: Insights from CHAOSScon Africa, Open Source Community Africa Festival, and KCD Nigeria

    9월 4일

    Episode 118: Insights from CHAOSScon Africa, Open Source Community Africa Festival, and KCD Nigeria

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 118 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Harmony welcomes guests Maryblessing Okolie, Ileriayo Adebiyi, and Joan Njeri, to discuss their experiences and key moments from recent open source community events in Lagos, Nigeria. These events include CHAOSScon Africa, Open Source Community Africa Festival (OSCAFEST), and KCD Nigeria. The guests share their backgrounds and roles within the open source community, their experiences organizing and attending the events, and the importance of building relationships. They also discuss impactful talks and sessions from the events, highlighting topics such as open source program offices (OSPOs), onboarding systems for open source projects, and the role of passion in the tech industry. Hit download now! [00:00:43] Harmony and our guests introduce themselves and their backgrounds. [00:02:54] The guests tell us which conferences they attended. [00:04:22] Maryblessing reflects on her experience organizing CHAOSScon Africa. [00:08:48] Ileriayo, one of the organizers of KCD Nigeria, shares his experiences with planning the event that took two years. [00:11:31] Joan shares her point of view as an attendee of OSCAFEST, being inspired by the energy and collaboration at the events and built partnerships with Eclipse Foundation and others for Kenya projects. [00:13:24] Harmony and our guests discuss their favorite talks they attended. [00:21:46] Joan and Ileriayo explain the cultural exchanges they experienced at the events (e.g. food, Pidgin language, networking, traffic, and cross-continent collaboration.) Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:27:13] Harmony’s pick is connecting with people. * [00:27:31] Joan’s pick is connecting with people. * [00:28:18] Ileriayo’s pick is relationships and people. * [00:29:19] Maryblessing’s pick is Anime. Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Maryblessing Okolie Ileriayo Adebiyi Joan Njeri Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Maryblessing Okolie Mastodon (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ileriayoadebiyi/) Maryblessing Okolie LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryblessingokolie/?originalSubdomain=ng) Maryblessing Okolie GitHub (https://github.com/Maryblessing/) Ileriayo Adebiyi Website (https://ileriayoadebiyi.com/) Ileriayo Adebiyi X (https://x.com/ileriayooo) Ileriayo Adebiyi LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ileriayoadebiyi/) Joan Njeri X (https://x.com/Joanndegwa_) CHAOSScon Africa 2025 (https://chaoss.community/chaosscon-africa-2025/) OSCAFEST 2025 (https://festival.oscafrica.org/) KCD Nigeria 2025 (https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-kcd-nigeria-presents-kcd-nigeria-2025/) Eclipse Foundation (https://www.eclipse.org/) One Piece (1999 TV series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Piece_(1999_TV_series)) Special Guests: Ileriayo Adebiyi, Joan Njeri, and Maryblessing Okolie.

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  4. Episode 117: Business Success with Open Source with VM (Vicky) Brasseur

    8월 21일

    Episode 117: Business Success with Open Source with VM (Vicky) Brasseur

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 117 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Georg Link and Sean Goggins welcome guest Vicky Brasseur, author of Business Success with Open Source and Forge Your Future with Open Source. The conversation explores Vicky’s early journey into open source, starting from discovering Project Gutenberg in the early '90s to using Linux for the first time, the challenges companies face when using open source software, and how organizations can better leverage it strategically. The discussion also delves into her book, Forge Your Future with Open Source, which addresses common questions about contributing to open source projects. Vicky highlights the gaps in strategic open source usage within organizations and offers insights on how companies can better utilize open source software to reduce business risks. The conversation wraps up with practical advice for making a compelling business case for open source contributions and the importance of speaking the language of decision-makers. Press download now! [00:01:05] Vicky introduces herself, shares her journey into open source, and introduces Project Gutenberg, LibriVox, and the value of community contributions to open knowledge and public domain resources. [00:06:44] Vicky shares how her first book, Forge Your Future with Open Source, helps newcomers start their contribution journey and why she wrote it to be reused across audiences. [00:10:54] There’s a discussion on how open source opens career path globally, especially in underserved economics. [00:12:46] Vicky shares some advice from her book for new contributors: Don’t start with Linux and find a project in an area you love (e.g., music, cars, sewing) to maintain long-term motivation. [00:15:18] Sean and Georg share their personal origin stories in open source. [00:19:23] Georg introduces Vicky’s second book, Business Success with Open Source, and she discusses the premise of the book and the “Three Part Framework.” [00:26:08] Vicky argues that even Linux Foundation member companies often don’t understand open source at an organizational level. [00:29:19] Vicky is available for consulting, following her layoff. She encourages listeners to reach out via her website. [00:33:55] Why do projects fail? Vicky shares failures come from poor communication and unchecked assumptions across industries, not just tech. [00:35:36] Vicky criticizes companies for chasing vanity metrics like GitHub stars and praises the CHAOSS Project but notes most companies misuse metrics or don’t tie them to strategic goals. Also, “Script kiddie” is explained. [00:40:13] Vicky explains how to ethically influence execs by speaking their language, use Power Points and show cost comparisons (e.g., OpenStreetMap vs Google Maps), and she emphasizes to use “TL;DR” (Too Long; Didn’t Read) friendly presentations to connect open source financial and operational outcomes. [00:44:27] There’s a special discount code for everyone to use on Vicky’s eBooks and audiobooks on The Pragmatic Bookshelf website and the code is VBCHAOSS *for 30% off *through Oct 2025. [00:45:16] Find out where you can follow Vicky and her work on the internet. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:46:07] Sean’s pick is the movie, Multiplicity (1996) starring Michael Keaton (not Carbon Copy as stated.) [00:47:29] Vicky’s pick is sharing her joy in spinning wool with a vintage spinning wheel. [00:49:35] Georg’s pick is going to an amusement park with his family. Panelists: Georg Link Sean Goggins Guest: VM (Vicky) Brasseur Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Sean Goggins X (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) VM (Vicky) Brasseur Website (https://www.vmbrasseur.com/about/) VM (Vicky) Brasseur Blog (https://blog.vmbrasseur.com/) VM (Vicky) Brasseur LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vmbrasseur/) VM (Vicky) Brasseur Mastodon (https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur) Project Gutenberg (https://www.gutenberg.org/) LibriVox (https://librivox.org/) Forge Your Future with Open Source by VM (Vicky) Brasseur (Code: VBCHAOSS) (https://pragprog.com/titles/vbopens/forge-your-future-with-open-source/) Business Success with Open Source by VM (Vicky) Brasseur (Code: VBCHAOSS) (https://pragprog.com/titles/vbfoss/business-success-with-open-source/) Nora McDonald (College of Engineering and Computing) (https://computing.gmu.edu/profiles/nmcdona4) Zotero (https://www.zotero.org/) Failure: Why It Happens & How to Benefit from It by VM (Vicky) Brasseur (https://archive.org/details/pdxdevops2017-failure) Script kiddie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie) Kevin Mitnick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick) Multiplicity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplicity_(film)) Spinning wheel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinning_wheel) Special Guest: VM (Vicky) Brasseur.

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  5. Episode 116: Metrics For Maintainers with Sarina, Feanil, and Felipe

    8월 7일

    Episode 116: Metrics For Maintainers with Sarina, Feanil, and Felipe

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 116 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Georg Link is joined by guests Sarina Canelake, Feanil Patel, and Felipe Montoya from the Open edX community, to discuss their experiences with the GrimoireLab tool and the launch and growth of their maintainer program.  The conversation dives into the history and impact of the Open edX project, the evolution of their maintainer program, and the use of metrics to track and improve community health. The guests also share personal stories and provide insights into the challenges and successes they’ve encountered along the way. Press download now! [00:00:34] Sarina, Feanil, and Felipe introduce themselves and their backgrounds. [00:02:02] Feanil and Sarina explain the origins of the maintainer program, the mix of Python and JavaScript repositories, and how maintainers influence code direction. [00:04:02] Feanil explains the history of Open edX, being open sourced in 2013 by edX (MOOC platform) and how Axim Collaborative took over stewardship in 2021. [00:07:04] We hear Felipe’s journey into the project from student to TA to community contributor and leader since 2012. He details the empowerment and pressure of receiving merge access in the Core Contributor program. [00:13:09] Sarina Explains why merge rights were initially limited to edX staff, and how the shift to community-led merging happened post 2020. [00:15:26] Feanil describes how the Maintainer Program now distributes ownership and improves repository health. [00:17:12] Feanil talks about his incremental metrics philosophy: starts with presence, then track responsiveness. [00:21:34] Georg asks how maintainers use GrimoireLab dashboards and filters. Sarina explains the use of Backstage ownership metadata for filtering dashboards by maintainers or groups and Feanil emphasizes the need for flexible tooling due to overlapping team memberships. [00:24:50] Felipe describes using dashboards to monitor his team’s participation and accountability. [00:25:40] Sarina asks Felipe about dashboards he uses on Bitergia to track team contributions. [00:28:26] Sarina shares how she tracks Elephant Factor and trends in commit and LOC volume and Georg highlights the value of identity reconciliation in data. [00:30:45] Felipe talks about monitoring Slack, issues, and commits to ensure ecosystem health post-company transitions and Sarina notes challenges of mapping Slack/Discourse identities in Sorting Hat for deeper engagement metrics. [00:34:11] There’s a discussion on syncing internal onboarding identity forms with Sorting Hat manually for now. [00:35:35] Georg raises concerns about metric misuse in performance reviews. Sarina and Feanil stress metrics as guidance, not performance tools, and Felipe shares his team uses metrics as lagging indicators, not for pressure. [00:39:55] Sarina explains how their impact report uses lines of code, commit trends, and elephant factor to show growth and codebase health. [00:42:32] Find out where you can go to get involved and contribute to Open edX and edunext. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:44:15] Georg’s pick is a podcast called, ‘Through The Griffin Door’ by the Carlin Brothers. * [00:44:50] Sarina’s pick is her kitten who’s taught herself how to play fetch and a podcast called, ‘The Best Idea Yet.’ * [00:45:37] Feanil’s pick is ‘Logseq,’ a journaling and notetaking tool. * [00:46:42] Felipe’s pick is the ‘Waking Up’ app for mindful meditation. Panelist: Georg Link Guests: Sarina Canelake Feanil Patel Felipe Montoya Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Sarina Canelake LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarinac/) Sarina Canelake Website (https://sarina.io/) Feanil Patel LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/feanil/) Feanil Patel GitHub (https://github.com/feanil) Felipe Montoya LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/felipe-montoya-edunext/) Open edX (https://openedx.org/) Open edX Documentation (https://docs.openedx.org/en/latest/) Open edX (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/c/Openedx) Open edX dashboard (https://openedx.biterg.io/app/dashboards#/view/Overview) Open edX GitHub (https://github.com/openedx) edunext (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/@edunextco) edunext (https://www.edunext.co/) Axim Collaborative (https://www.axim.org/) MOOC (https://www.mooc.org/) Through The Griffin Door (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/@ThroughTheGriffinDoor/podcasts) The Best Idea Yet Podcast (https://wondery.com/shows/the-best-idea-yet/) Logseq (https://logseq.com/) Waking Up (https://www.wakingup.com/) Special Guests: Feanil Patel, Felipe Montoya, and Sarina Canelake.

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  6. Episode 115: Trends from UN OSS Week and OSSNA

    7월 24일

    Episode 115: Trends from UN OSS Week and OSSNA

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! In this double-length CHAOSScast special episode, hosts Harmony Elendu and George Link along with panelists from the CHAOSS community, come together to reflect on their experiences at two major open source events: CHAOSScon North America (co-located with the Open Source Summit) and the United Nations Open Source Week in New York. The episode is packed with personal insights, highlighted key talks, software updates, themes from the events, memorable community interactions, and thoughtful conversations about the future of open source, digital sovereignty, and sustainability. Press download now! [00:00:19] Harmony and the guests introduce themselves and their roles in CHAOSS and the open source community. [00:02:36] Everyone shares their CHAOSScon talk highlights. [00:10:49] Conference moments and experiences are talked about such as Linux Foundation’s puppy therapy booths to reduce stress, knitting as a conversation starter, and spontaneous hallway discussions about software security and SBOMs. [00:17:10] Software updates: Augur now runs easily via Docker Compose, making it accessible to more users. [00:18:59] Elizabeth explains behind the scenes of organizing CHAOSScon with Linux Foundation support, and challenges with speaker curation, CFP management, and logistics. [00:23:17] Harmony invites listeners to CHAOSScon Africa and OSCAFEST’25 happening in August, both in the same week and same location. [00:23:45] Elizabeth, Laura, and Andrew share their CHAOSS booth experiences. [00:28:28] The guests talk about meeting longtime online collaborators in person for the first time. [00:30:16] Cali talks about the Data Science Hackathon, student participation, hands-on project exploration with 8Knot and Auger and the event was hosted by the CHAOSS Data Science Working Group. [00:36:43] Part 2 starts here as host Georg Link takes over with guests Divya, Ruth, and Daniel, who all attended the United Nations Open Source Week in New York. [00:39:45] We hear some key moments from the UN Open Source Week 2025: Governments increasingly adopting OSPOs, sessions on humanitarian tech and open source for crisis response, the energy, engagement, and diversity of thought. [00:50:09] Ruth shares something new she learned going to an Open Source Hardware presentation where they did a demo of DIY microscopes and Georg shares an inspiring story he learned using open hardware. [00:52:12] After being at this conference, Ruth sees open source headed for digital sovereignty and there’s a discussion on the trend toward collaborative Digital Public Infrastructure (DPI) and public goods. [00:55:37] There’s a conversation on sustainability and open source communities. [01:01:09] Governance and transparency is discussed, Daniel shares an example with Germany’s Sovereign Tech Fund supporting critical infrastructure, and Divya shares going to a session that was focused on payments. [01:06:05] We end with Georg highlighting to check out some recordings from the UN Open Source Week 2025 website and to check out the UN Open Source Principles. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:03] Harmony’s pick is a local coffee. [00:32:26] Cali’s pick is being able to road bike for the first time since surgery. [00:33:05] Elizabeth’s pick is feeling grateful to be in an industry that provides opportunities to meet with and connect with people from all over the world. [00:34:39] Laura’s pick is spending two weeks with open source folks who care far more about people than profits. [00:35:14] Andrew’s pick is reconnecting with Elizabeth and first time traveling with the Timeshifter App to help with jet lag. [01:07:32] Ruth’s pick is friends. [01:08:00] Daniel’s pick is the Digital Resilience Forum. [01:09:27] Divya’s pick is tinkering with pottery. [01:11:16] Georg’s pick is his herbal garden. Panelists: Harmony Elendu Georg Link Guests: Elizabeth Barron Andrew Nesbitt Cali Dolfi Laura Langdon Divya Mohan Ruth Ikegah Daniel Izquierdo Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Elizabeth Barron X (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) Andrew Nesbitt Mastodon (https://www.timeshifter.com/) Andrew Nesbitt Website (https://nesbitt.io/) Cali Dolfi LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/calidolfi/) Cali Dolfi X (https://x.com/calidolphinn?lang=en) Laura Langdon Website (https://www.lauralangdon.io/) Laura Langdon Mastodon (https://hachyderm.io/@LauraLangdon) Ruth Ikegah X (https://twitter.com/IkegahRuth) Ruth Ikegah LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-ikegah/) Divya Mohan Website (https://www.divyamohan.com/) Divya Mohan LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/divya-mohan0209/) Daniel Izquierdo LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dicortazar/?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2F&originalSubdomain=es) CHAOSScon Africa 2025 (https://chaoss.community/chaosscon-africa-2025/) OSCAFEST’25 (https://festival.oscafrica.org/) CHAOSS Data Science Working Group (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science) Timeshifter Apps (https://www.timeshifter.com/) Digital Public Goods Registry (https://www.digitalpublicgoods.net/registry) Sovereign Tech Agency (https://www.sovereign.tech/) United Nations Open Source Week 2025 (https://www.un.org/digital-emerging-technologies/content/open-source-week-2025) United Nations Digital Public Goods (https://www.un.org/digital-emerging-technologies/content/digital-public-goods) United Nations Open Source Principles (https://unite.un.org/news/osi-first-endorse-united-nations-open-source-principles) OpenFlexure Microscope (open hardware project) (https://openflexure.org/projects/microscope/) Digital Resilience Forum (https://digitalresilienceforum.com/) Special Guests: Andrew Nesbitt, Cali Dolfi, Divya Mohan, and Laura Langdon.

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  7. Episode 114: Awesome POSM and Jellyfish Visualizations for the Cardano Community with Christian, Tex, and Johnny

    7월 10일

    Episode 114: Awesome POSM and Jellyfish Visualizations for the Cardano Community with Christian, Tex, and Johnny

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 114 In this episode of CHAOSScast, hosts Georg Link and Nicole Huesman engage in a deep discussion with Christian Taylor, Terence (Tex) McCutcheon, and Johnny Kelly about measuring and enhancing open source community health through innovative methods. Christian and his team share their experiences in implementing the 'paid open source model' within the Cardano blockchain community, designed to retain and motivate contributors. The panel discusses a variety of topics, including governance models, the integration of AI for report generation, and the challenges of balancing open source principles with corporate interests. They also explore specific tools and metrics used to evaluate project health and community engagement, providing an illuminating look into the future of open source development. Hit the download button now! [00:01:40] Our guests give a brief introduction. [00:04:37] Christian provides a non-technical intro to Cardano, a top blockchain focused on peer reviewed, academic rigor. [00:06:07] Johnny explains Cardano’s high decentralization via SPOs, DReps, and community tools like GovTool, and Christian outlines how open source ties in. [00:09:39] Christian talks about open source governance and Intersect and explains Intersect serves like the Linux Foundation for Cardano, holding code, facilitating contribution ladders, and launching an incubation program. [00:13:06] Georg gives a summary for those who are new: Cardano’s treasury is funded via blockchain transaction fees. This funding supports open source development, tools, documentation, and maintainers, and Christian elaborates more about this. [00:15:39] Johnny details governance and funding decisions and Christian emphasizes the transparency and checks and balance system. [00:17:08] Nicole raises concerns about aligning paid models with open source ethos and Christian discusses Intersect’s neutral, community-owned governance structure and internal checks and Johnny shares a link about the current members and the elective process within Intersect. [00:20:37] Christian shares using Bitergia and CHAOSS metrics to build out Cardano’s open source health dashboard. Focus areas were response times, geographic contributions, contribution ladders, and project maturity. [00:26:03] Tex shares their dashboard is public and useful for spotting high-impact projects. He aims to improve documentation standards and repo governance practices. [00:31:05] Georg gives a brief description of the “jellyfish diagrams” that show how developers connect across projects. [00:33:26] Christian shares their approach to using AI in metrics reporting and Tex emphasizes AI assists analysis but doesn’t replace human validation. [00:37:10] Nicole asks if the paid open source model is being shared externally. Christian confirms they presented the model at open source summits, validated it with leading experts, stress-tested with community input, and outlines a six month pilot of the model. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:44:06] Georg’s pick is going on his first cruise. [00:45:07] Christian’s pick is family. [00:45:54] Tex’s pick is simplicity. [00:46:38] Johnny’s pick is the Calidus Pool-Key. [00:47:54] Nicole’s pick is meeting and interviewing Dr. Laura Kelly. *Panelists: * Georg Link Nicole Huesman Guests: Christian Taylor Terence (Tex) McCutcheon Johnny Kelly Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Nicole Huesman X (https://twitter.com/uoduckswtd) Christian Taylor X (https://x.com/DeOpenSourceGuy) Christian Taylor LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-taylor-766b01b1/) Terence McCutcheon X (https://x.com/Tmacqt87) Terence McCutcheon LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tex-oso/) Johnny Kelly X (https://x.com/intertreeJK) Johnny Kelly LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/intertreejk/) Open Source Office at Intersect MBO (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/@osointersectmbo) Cardano (https://cardano.org/) Cardano GovTool (https://gov.tools/) Intersect (https://www.intersectmbo.org/) Intersect Committees (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/about/readme/committee-members) Open Source Office (OSO) (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/about/open-source-office-oso) Bitergia Repo Maturity Reports (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/all-monthly-reports/bitergia-repo-maturity-reports) Edinburgh Decentralization Index Dashboard (https://informatics.ed.ac.uk/blockchain/edi/dashboard) Contribution Ladder Framework (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/policies/contribution-ladder-framework) Current Open Source Committee Members list and Term Rotation Schedules (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/about/readme/committee-members) Bitergia Monthly Maturity Reports for 2025 (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/all-monthly-reports/bitergia-repo-maturity-reports/monthly-maturity-reports-2025) Introductory Article on POSM (Intersect) (https://www.intersectmbo.org/news/the-paid-open-source-model) Intersecting Open Source and Sustainability: A Paid Open Source Model for Ecosystems Full PDF (https://493748844-files.gitbook.io/~/files/v0/b/gitbook-x-prod.appspot.com/o/spaces%2FLBdnzp0eZpGri9sVpseI%2Fuploads%2FvuisqFT8uCyKSDgpNmyW%2FPaid%20Open%20Source%20Model-%20LIVE.pdf?alt=media&token=577c8bd1-c9df-43a0-8b57-e883ddb1254a) Bitergia Dashboard (https://intersectmbo.biterg.io/app/dashboards#/view/Overview) The Paid Open Source Model Concept (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4PgqaPWNT4) New Calidus Pool-Key for SPOs and Services Interacting with Pools (https://forum.cardano.org/t/new-calidus-pool-key-for-spos-and-services-interacting-with-pools/143812) She Lights the Way (https://shelightstheway.com/) Dr. Laura Kelly (https://drlaurakelly.com/) Special Guests: Johnny Kelly, Christian Taylor, and Terence (Tex) McCutheon.

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  8. Episode 113: FOSS Backstage post-conference report

    6월 26일

    Episode 113: FOSS Backstage post-conference report

    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 112 In this special CHAOSS community panel episode, Harmony hosts a group discussion with Daniel Izquierdo, Peculiar Umeh, Cassie Seo, and Ijeoma Onwuka as they share their experiences at the FOSS Backstage conference held in Berlin. They dive into their goals for attending, the talks they gave, key takeaways, and what the open source community means to them. Topics covered include measuring social and economic impact through open source, building sustainable open-source projects, diversity in open-source communities, and various personal experiences and learnings that contribute to individual and community growth. Press download now to hear more! [00:00:29] Our guests introduce themselves and their backgrounds. [00:03:15] We start with FOSS Backstage conference takeaways from each guest. [00:08:49] Cassie recaps her panel, emphasizing the complexity of measuring impact in humanitarian and academic settings. [00:12:54] Sessions that stood out: Ijeoma points out a session on how open source can help meet UN SDGs and expresses interest in the newly released Open Source Principles. [00:14:35] Peculiar attended Stephen Pollard’s talk on an educational model by OpenChain, related to improving onboarding in open source. [00:16:30] Cassie learned about digital public health infrastructure via Bianca’s World Health Organization affiliated session. [00:17:58] Ijeoma was inspired by Dr. Wolfgang Gehring’s session on contributor efficiency and avoiding pseudo productivity. Cassie reiterates pseudo productivity issue and its implications in social impact metrics. [00:21:22] The discussion turns to people connections and Peculiar talks about meeting and connecting with Stephen Pollard and appreciating the support during her talk. Daniel saw value in meeting the broader community, and Ijeoma was proud to represent Nigeria and met CHAOSS members and other international speakers despite travel barriers. [00:25:07] There’s a conversation on what everyone learned at the conference. Cassie learned to overcome fear and embrace the value of her ideas despite technical difficulties and Peculiar felt deeply supported by the open source community during her illness mid-talk. [00:27:45] Daniel gained insight on EU regulation and how it affects small businesses and open source projects and Ijeoma learned to trust her voice and recognized the passion of global contributors. [00:30:19] We end with closing thoughts on the conference: Peculiar shares it was an amazing conference and is eager to attend future editions in person. Daniel reveals three hashtags to sum up his experience: Community, friends, and learning experience. Ijeoma called it an “exceptional” experience, including food, conversations, and inclusion. Cassie sums it up in three words: Urgency, care, and collaboration. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:01] Daniel’s pick is retro gaming. [00:32:22] Peculiar’s pick is connecting with someone that helped her with a certain skill. [00:32:54] Cassie’s pick is to go on a long walk every day without a phone. [00:33:46] Ijeoma’s pick is making sure each contribution I make to each project is very impactful. [00:34:18] Harmony’s pick is taking some late night drives and snack along the way. Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Daniel Izquierdo Peculiar Umeh Cassie Seo Ijeoma Onwuka Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Daniel Izquierdo LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dicortazar/?originalSubdomain=es) Ijeoma Onwuka LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/onwuka-ijeoma/) Cassie Jiun Seo LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassiejiunseo/) Peculiar Umeh LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/peculiar-c-umeh/?originalSubdomain=ng) FOSS Backstage 2025 Sessions (https://25.foss-backstage.de/sessions/) FOSS Backstage 2025 (https://25.foss-backstage.de/) Special Guests: Ijeoma Onwuka, Cassie Jiun Seo, and Peculiar Umeh.

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This CHAOSS Community podcast features members who spent considerable time and effort to understand open source community health and how we can measure it through metrics, analytics, and software. We invite guests to this podcast to talk about how they use open source community health metrics and software in their own open source communities, companies, or foundations. This podcast fills the gap with open source community metric definitions and software on one side and their use on the other side.

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