23 episodes

Call it Enterprise Performance Management or Corporate Performance Management or whatever you will — we will bring the most interesting, thoughtful, and sometimes maybe a wee bit controversial personalities in our little world and simply talk. The conversations will be free ranging and open ended. We (Cameron, Natalie, Celvin, and Tim) think you will find it interesting. We hope.

EPM Conversations Cameron, Natalie, Celvin, and Tim

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Call it Enterprise Performance Management or Corporate Performance Management or whatever you will — we will bring the most interesting, thoughtful, and sometimes maybe a wee bit controversial personalities in our little world and simply talk. The conversations will be free ranging and open ended. We (Cameron, Natalie, Celvin, and Tim) think you will find it interesting. We hope.

    EPM Conversations Episode 22 – A Conversation With Shankar Viswanathan, The Man Who Owns The Product That Bought Me My House

    EPM Conversations Episode 22 – A Conversation With Shankar Viswanathan, The Man Who Owns The Product That Bought Me My House

    Let’s not forget that it also sent Natalie’s kids to collegeWe (your EPM Conversations hosts) owe a lot – a financial kind of debt as well as a professional one  – to Shankar and Hyperion/Oracle on premises /PBCS/EPBCS/EPM Cloud Planning.  Seriously, I first set eyes on what was then Hyperion Planning Desktop (which alas I cannot find a screenshot of but know it’s out there somewhere), I thought, “Cameron, you idiot, this is the future” and so it has been through (gulp) decades of work.  Never, our Performance Management audience, look askance at a sure thing.  
     Part of that product’s success has been Shankar Viswanathan’s careful stewardship of a product that grew from an application wrapper around Essbase (and a horrific and quickly abandoned Win32 app that was supposed to be the workspace of users of All Things Hyperion and yes, Shankar, I really do hope you didn’t create that) to a complete EPM cloud platform.  At its core, planning and budgeting hasn’t at it’s core really changed all that much (ZBB came and went, driver based planning is still here, and yes AI/ML now has its turn in the Wheel of Planning  Fortune) but what we still call Planning certainly has.  Of course Shankar didn’t write each line of code nor did he define and design every bit and bob of UI, but it’s easy to see his steady hand in Planning’s evolution through the lens of customer success.
    IntrospectionEach and every one of EPM Conversations’ guests is a joy for they are enthusiastic, open, thoughtful, visionary, and just about everything one might hope for in a colleague and a friend.  Shankar is all of things and yet he is different.
     By that I mean Shankar is quiet in the physical sense.  We struggled with Shankar’s voice until we (we = Celvin) realized that is simply how Shankar talks; he is well worth listening to and the volume button on your phone isn’t that hard to use.  Sometimes how we think is reflected in how we speak:  introspection, consideration, reasoning, and sensitivity don’t need to be shouted to be understood.  Shankar is well worth a listen.
    Maybe the most interesting partAll of what I wrote about Shankar’s professional interests hold true for his personal ones.  
    There’s a wide range in all three areas of historical men, literature, and movies:  E.O. Wilson, , Gandhi, and Steve Jobs for the historical figures, in reading, Ayn Rand as a teenager, to E.F. Schumacher’s  Small is Beautiful, John Kenneth Galbraith’s  The Anatomy of Power, and Fritjof Capra’s  The Tao of Physics, and finally a varied palette of movies in Shawshank Redemption,  The Bang Bang Club,  and Heat.
    This is, in case you’ve not been able to tell, one of my favorite episodes.
    Join us, won’t you?

    • 1 hr 15 min
    A Portrait in Leadership: Women in EPM with Minie Parikh

    A Portrait in Leadership: Women in EPM with Minie Parikh

    Yr. Obt. Svt. finds broad cultural movements to be interesting both conceptually (what are they, why do they exist, how did they start, and the rest of the who, when, and where list) and in practice because of their broad outcomes and impact on individuals.
     My inveterate curiosity aside, women in STEM (STEAM) has been a current in social and professional change for roughly the past decade.  Various organizations and companies, e.g., ODTUG, PwC, OneStream, Oracle, and many others, have been active advocates of this program
    In many (most, really) respects, EPM Conversations is a series of, um, conversations with the leading lights in our Performance Management (and others) community and we have been blessed with a truly eclectic and interesting set of guests.
     EPM Conversations has a started a new series in that vein – Portraits in Leadership:  Women in EPM.  Our first guest is Minie Parikh.  
    She is a true renaissance woman:  driven, smart, far sighted, artistic, perceptive, altruistic, warm, positive, and more and oh yeah, right in the thick of EPM with her firm, EPMI.
    Minie's  story is inspiring:  a first generation American who rejected her expected professional path and instead became a Big4 consultant, cofounded a boutique consultancy (EPMI), is a guest on this podcast (ahem, that’s only kind of a joke, one that is quite firmly tongue in cheek, but it is quite hard to pique our collective interest and oh by the way, she too has a podcast), while leading through active participation and by example in WIT.  If that isn’t leadership, I don’t know what is.
     And lest you become overwhelmed by all of this, there is of course that human story, and it’s kind of out there.
    Love and marriage, love and marriage, go together like an SmartView queryWith the most profuse apologies possible to Old Blue Eyes and Sammy Khan, love and marriage and Excel and Smartview and Essbase rarely, and I do mean just about never except maybe this one and only time, come together and yet in Minie’s case, it most absolutely did because she met her husband, Nihar Parikh in a bar where they bonded over their mutual love of SmartView.  It is totally geeky cool and very sweet.  Never say there’s nothing new under the Sun.
    The first of manyFingers crossed, our new series finds favor with you, Gentle Listener.  One of the great things about this podcast is the ability to quickly jump from one theme to another.  As this section header notes, Minie is not the last.
     Join us, won’t you?

    • 1 hr 11 min
    EPM Conversations Episode 20 – A Culture Clash Conversation, The African

    EPM Conversations Episode 20 – A Culture Clash Conversation, The African

    Ex Africa Semper Aliquid Novi Roger Cressy is a fascinating guest, unlike any other we’ve had.  His jobs have spanned from retail management (yup, a department store, a really nice one – I’ve been there – and not the one in the States or the UK) to our Beloved Performance Management.

    Roger’s is also a geographical journey, from Malawi/Nyasaland (he just missed the Central African Federation) to Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, to South Africa, to the United Kingdom, back to South Africa, and thence to the United States – I may have missed a few countries in that list and perhaps got the order wrong.

    Part of his peripatetic perambulation is an artefact of decolonization, the rest is a restless quest for opportunity.  Oddly, in person is a very calm man.

    I first met Roger through, unsurprisingly, ODTUG’s Kscope.  Equally unsurprisingly given my stupendous memory, I don’t remember the year or the city.  Such is the hurly-burly nature of a good conference.

    If you’ve not met him, Roger is tall (maybe it’s that I’m shrinking, ah the joys of middle age) and has a beard of biblical proportions;  once met, he is indelibly remembered.


    Diversity in Every RespectRoger has a full life, more than most of us, safely ensconced in the West, and the places, roles, and people he’s met have given him a unique and philosophical outlook on the business and technical world we all share.

    Have a listen to this fascinating episode.

    Be seeing you. 

    • 1 hr 7 min
    EPM Conversations Episode 19 – A Culture Clash Conversation Or Our Kith and Kin Across The Sea

    EPM Conversations Episode 19 – A Culture Clash Conversation Or Our Kith and Kin Across The Sea

    It’s a Book, It’s a Podcast Episode, It’s Kismet
    A bunch of geeks (native born, immigrants; Americans all) interviewing an Australian and a New Zealander/Australian/American (it’s complicated) set Yr. Obt. Svt. to immediately think of the title of this podcast (eh, I need to get more than one hobby), who then looked up the phrase and found that…it’s a travelogue of a New Zealander’s view of the USA, circa 1888.  Seriously, what are the chances that the Mind of Cameron (often non compos mentis, invariably kind of wacky) and reality and a not half bad title smack up against each other?  This podcast episode was destiny realized.
     What then is the value of a Culture Clash episode where people-who-are-practically-Americans (ahem) are interviewed by-people-who-are-practically-Aussies-and-Kiwis?  I have noted that those who are closest and yet different are often the best observers, for they are alike enough to understand nuance but separate enough to not be blinded by a common mindset.
    Richard (the man of a million or so legitimate passports) and Pete (just the one country, but Godzone)  have lived/worked in the States.  Just what are their perceptions?  What are two very different (from the US-of-A) EPM markets like?
    I should note that Pete got me (I did do some of the work) the 2017 Best Kscope Essbase co-speaker award that I have always, always, always wanted.  My oh my, did I want that, did I ever think I deserved it – yes, cruel ego as it was always unfulfilled – and I never did get it till Pete and I did a presentation on Hybrid Essbase.  I will note that Pete has won multiple best speaker awards at Kscope, so I have a sneaking suspicion our joint award is 20% Cameron, 80% Pete but no matter, a win is a win.  I should also note that Kscope 2017 was my last Oracle conference as a speaker, so it made the reward all the sweeter.
    Richard graciously was my host at Flinders Uni way back in (I think) 2012 as part of an ODTUG conference tour of the Antipodes and facilitated (orchestrated?) an ODI/Essbase presentation at NZOUG.  My primary memory of that trip (I was in a constant state of jet lag) was dinner with Richard and a bunch of attendees and being stared at as a Real Life American geek, not commonly seen in the wild, sitting there eating his plate of spag bol, feeling more self-conscious than usual were that possible.  Oh well, I like to provide entertainment to all, no matter the cost.  
    Having the two of them on the show was and is a special treat.
    Not For The Faint of HeartFor those of delicate disposition, easily offended by adult words, mortally insulted by honest, open, and frank conversation, I fear you must put on your big boy/girl pants and buckle up.  We Americans, cultural descendants of the Puritans, beseeched our guests to tone down the language lest you, Gentle Listener, get a case of the vapors.  They mostly complied, but You Have Been Warned.  That takes care of the North Americans; the rest of the world won’t care.
     Sensitivities aside, as always our guests are witty, insightful, and extremely interesting.
    Join us, won’t you?

    • 1 hr 9 min
    EPM Conversations Episode 18 -- A Culture Clash Conversation or Fro and To and Fro Again with Kishore Mukkamala and Sumit Deo

    EPM Conversations Episode 18 -- A Culture Clash Conversation or Fro and To and Fro Again with Kishore Mukkamala and Sumit Deo

    Why is Yr. Obt. Svt. not part of this podcast?  Aren’t you glad I’m not?The Culture Clash series has – from the feedback we’ve heard – been well received.  Thus far it’s been Americans talking to our comrades in performance management arms about their experience in their home country and in North America.  What we’ve not had is someone from another country talking to his countrymen.  This podcast deviates from that model because my Objectively Younger, Taller, Smarter and Subjectively Better Looking Brother From Other Parents is from India and is speaking with two of his Indian friends, Kishore Mukkamala and Sumit Deo.  It was – and this was quite difficult for someone who has figuratively kissed the Blarney Stone – my idea to redact myself and Natalie and Tim from the podcast as we simply don’t have the background to do justice to this episode, thus, Celvin as the host.
    One of the things that makes this such an interesting episode is that Celvin really understands the immigrants journey – all three of them have had very different experiences and yet all three have had ones that are awfully close.  Because of this, I think you, oh Gentle Listener, will find nuance and understanding in this episode that may very well be unique.  
    They came for opportunity.  They left for family.One of the things that I found so interesting about this podcast (your hosts and our guests listen to all of our episodes before they go live, the former for OMG-is-this-any-good and the latter for OMG-am-I-going-to-get-fired-over-this-content) is the effort and challenges Sumit and Kishore underwent as they came to the States and built a life only to return to their homeland.  Their reasons differ slightly but commonly share the threads of family ties and duty.  One cannot but admire their undoubtedly hard (have a listen to what they had to go through to get into this country and work here – it ain’t easy) decisions, for this is what real men (and women but c’mon, they are quite literally guys) willingly sacrifice for their families.
    Their paths here (and I include Celvin) are interesting, their careers varied, their love of Essbase similar.   They are inspiring stories and (for once) I as a listener was quite moved.  I am sorry they left the States as I would very much like to meet them in person. 
    A couple of key things to listen for:  guns, sports (American sports), movies (Hollywood is more accurate than one might imagine), personal space, Americans’ openness and friendliness, and just where are the servants.   
    A world united by Enid BlytonAt the end of every episode we (well, Celvin this time) ask our guests who in history they’d like to have dinner with, what they like to read, and the movies that they like in an attempt to know the real person.
    I am as a native born American, somewhat taken aback by the well-read nature of our guests in this series.  Kishore and Sumit are from their answers, people whose interests go far beyond just work and sports (I fear I do a disservice to my fellow Americans but let’s be real:  how many philosophers does your average USAian list in his I’d-like-to-have-dinner-with-this-person) .   But most importantly, how many Americans are fans of the Famous Five?  Hah!  I am.  Well, I think the Secret Seven were better, but the Famous Five are just fine as well.  
    I’m not sure if listening to this podcast will convince you to dive into the really quite magical world of Enid Blyton, but if you have children, I urge you to dip your to

    • 1 hr 15 min
    EPM Conversation Episode 17 -- A Culture Clash Conversation or Are The Simpsons Really How Latin America sees us with David Blanco and Belen Ortiz

    EPM Conversation Episode 17 -- A Culture Clash Conversation or Are The Simpsons Really How Latin America sees us with David Blanco and Belen Ortiz

    Our guests, conferences, and we’re much the same but really quite differentThe second in EPM Conversations’ Culture Clash series features two guests from Latin America:  David Blanco and Belen Ortiz.  I know both from conferences only.  Actually, all of my cohosts and all of our guests are, one way or another, part of EPM Conversations (and my life as well) because of conferences.  OneStream’s Splash is coming up in just over a week, 17 to 20 April, ODTUG’s Kscope is happening in Aurora, CO, 25 through 29 June.  If you work in either (or both) of these technology stacks, I encourage you to attend the conferences.  The sessions are key to our professional development; the networking is as well, cf. this podcast’s existence.
    Is perception reality?  Let’s hope not.  But maybe it is.This series has been from the perspective of North Americans (well, USAians) who try to understand our comrades in arms across the world.  What we (and by we I mean your hosts and of course you, our audience) learn is always interesting.  Sometimes the lessons are surprising.
     It turns out that The Simpsons are wildly popular in Latin America.  From Mexico (geographically North American but culturally part of Latin America) to Argentina (Latin America yes, but oriented towards Europe), The Simpsons are a prime American cultural export.
    Color me a bright pink for I am blushing.  A lot.  How mortifying:  what is possibly the most moronic television family in the US (stiff competition there) is how much of the world sees us.  At least it’s with amusement.  And at least they don’t equate us with Family Guy.
    My personal embarrassment aside (Yr. Obt. Svt. is the only host native-born, so my humiliation is greater than Celvin’s and Tim’s), it was hugely entertaining to hear how the show is a window into my homeland.  I note that despite watching The Simpsons both Belen (California) and David (uh oh, he lives in Canada, so perhaps …) speak warmly of the United States.
    Back to our guestsDavid  has been in the field roughly as long as I have.  It’s always a pleasant trip to the past when I hear that someone worked for Comshare, the granddaddy of all Performance Management firms.  I can’t remember if he started with Essbase or went back even further to System W (2,048 members per cube in total on a gigantic IBM 3084-Q64 System 360 MVS/TSO mainframe). 
    Belen started out in computer security and serendipitously ended up in the Performance Management space.  Anti-virus expert to Essbase to all-rounder in EPM is quite the trip.  It was also interesting to hear about the Argentine approach to software licensing and IT good practices.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Their show is witty, warm, and interesting by turns.  We your hosts, and you Dear Listener, are lucky to have them as comrades in arms in our Performance Management world.
    Join us, won’t you?

    • 54 min

Customer Reviews

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20 Ratings

Chicago Jets ,

Fantastic!

It’s great to hear from the Cameron and Celvin. The guests they have had on are so detailed and passionate about the work they do, that they all seem to get invited to host a show in the future. It is a little Oracle heavy but that could be my prior life in SAP BPC talking…fun podcast to listen to with a lot of great guests.

Pumpkinteeth ,

Great podcast!

Finally a podcast about EPM/CPM! I love this podcast, the discussions and the guests. I am 7 episodes in and excited to listen to more.

Pmancoll123 ,

Definitely in my top 5 EPM podcast shows!

I daresay I cannot think of an EPM podcast I like better
Great for listening to on a lunch or walking break from work. The guests and hosts are interesting and communicate ideas and principles relating to EPM/CPM work clearly and concisely. It often helps me understand my work better and makes it easier to get back to work after a break

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