Every L Podcast

Matt Brown

Real people share their personal stories of unexpected setbacks and disappointments in their lives. Although these experiences may have initially felt like losses, they reflect on the valuable lessons and growth gained from those challenging moments.

  1. EP 65 | Rejection, Resilience & Representation feat. Travis Newton

    11/03/2025

    EP 65 | Rejection, Resilience & Representation feat. Travis Newton

    In this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with Travis to unpack some of the tougher moments life has thrown his way, focusing on rejection in the workplace, the importance of resilience, and the complex realities of representation. Here are three truly compelling topics we explored: 1. Discrimination & Bias in Job Interviews Travis shares a formative story about a job interview that went awry, not due to his experience or suitability, but because the interviewer was fixated on his appearance – namely, his earrings. This moment not only knocked his confidence but also planted seeds of self-doubt, forcing him to question whether underlying prejudices might have been at play. We delve into how both subtle and overt forms of bias can derail opportunities, and how to navigate the fallout when it occurs. 2. Navigating Rejection & Building Resilience We dive into how Travis used moments of professional rejection as fuel for growth rather than defeat. Instead of letting disappointment define him, he chose to “prove them wrong,” developing career direction, self-assurance, and a mindset that has served him well ever since. The conversation looks at how healthy support systems (like family) and self-reflection turn an ‘L’ into long-term resilience. 3. Representation: Parenting & Preparing the Next Generation As fathers of mixed-race children, Travis and I discuss the extra layers to parenting that come with navigating society’s perceptions and prejudices. From having honest conversations about race and difference to prepping our kids for the inevitable moments when they’re “the one that stands out,” we touch on the heartache and responsibility of making space for these truths – and share candid stories about why it matters for their confidence and well-being. If you enjoyed this frank and open dialogue, please comment your favourite part and share Every L Podcast with someone who might find comfort or inspiration here. Don’t forget to check out previous episodes and let us know what moments or insights resonated with you most! Questions for You: Have you ever felt your appearance or background impacted an interview or opportunity, and how did you respond? What strategies or support systems have helped you turn a rejection into a source of motivation, rather than defeat? How do you handle conversations about race, representation, or identity within your own family or community? Drop your thoughts in the comments, or reach out to us on social media (@everylpodcast on Instagram) – we’d love to hear your perspectives and keep the conversation going.

    1h 10m
  2. Ep 64 | The Teacher Who Couldn’t Ignore His Talent feat. Cal-I Jonel

    05/12/2025

    Ep 64 | The Teacher Who Couldn’t Ignore His Talent feat. Cal-I Jonel

    In this episode I sat down with my dear friend and remarkable human being, Cal-I, for an honest and heartfelt conversation. This episode is for anyone navigating rejection, career pivots, or finding the courage to chase after a long-suppressed dream. Here are three standout topics we covered that really struck a chord: 1. The Challenge of Career Change and Rejection 2. The Power of Having a Supportive Partner 3. Reframing the “L”  It’s the classic “every L is a lesson, not a loss.” Cal-I unpacked how that difficult experience of rejection didn’t signal the end but rather the beginning of deeper self-discovery, hard work, and resilience. He spoke about the dangers of seeking validation from industries or institutions and instead championing the slog of incremental growth (“small steps, big moves”). The conversation also spotlighted the importance of not comparing your journey to others’, and how even the most multifaceted, high-achieving people wrestle with imposter syndrome and doubt. Want to Hear More? Listen to this truly inspiring episode to see how small pivots, an honest support system, and relentless faith in yourself can transform failure into growth. You’ll also hear about Cal-I’s headline-grabbing one-man show "No More Mr Nice Guy", lessons learned from touring, and insights on life after letting go of old identities. Connect & Get Involved: Show Cal-I some love on Instagram at @caljonel and check out his and his wife’s amazing educational initiative at love-literacy.com.   More about Cal-I Cal-I Jonel, an East London-born theatremaker and award-winning actor, began his artistic journey through community-based youth work, creating and directing plays. Alongside a decade-long career as a qualified teacher, he also ventured into music as a singer-songwriter and composer. Jonel has received commissions from Queen’s Theatre and Talawa Theatre, and his second full-length play was shortlisted for the Soho Theatre Tony Craze Award, earning ‘Highly Commended’ status. Recently, he premiered and toured his debut one-man, gig-theatre piece, “No More Mr Nice Guy,” to 5-star reviews, also receiving an OFFIE nomination.  Cal-I is a devoted husband and father or three. He hopes to encourage his children, and others, to pursue their dreams and live a life that is full.

    1h 38m
  3. Ep 62 | Honouring Memories & Building Legacies: A Story of Love and Loss feat. Amit Kalley

    11/27/2023

    Ep 62 | Honouring Memories & Building Legacies: A Story of Love and Loss feat. Amit Kalley

    Amit Kalley is our latest guest and delves into his deeply personal topics of loss, overcoming challenges, and finding strength. Amit shares his experiences of dealing with his mother's battle with ovarian cancer and the premature birth of his daughter. Here are three interesting topics covered in this heartfelt and thought-provoking conversation: 1️⃣ The Power of Support and Family 2️⃣ Coping with Loss and Grief 3️⃣ Creating a Lasting Legacy As you reflect on this episode, take a moment to examine your own experiences with loss and the challenges you have faced. How have they shaped you? Has there been someone who has provided unwavering support? If so, reach out to that individual and tell them. Give them their flowers while they are living and rather than on their tombstone. Follow me on Instagram: @EveryLPodcast for exclusive content and please RATE and REVIEW on the platform you are listening on More about Amit: Amit is Co-Founder of For Working Parents, a company that helps organisations become more inclusive for their working parents. A former Deputy Headteacher, Amit uses his experience and his training as an ICF Coach to create an environment in the workplace that is more empathetic and human and where parents can thrive both at work and at home. In addition to running coaching sessions and parental webinars, Amit also speaks publicly about his own personal story, having lost a parent and then becoming a parent to a daughter born with three holes in her heart. Facebook: @forworkingparents Instagram: @forworkingparents LinkedIn: @AmitSinghKalley TikTok: @kalleycoaching Podcast: What Do Parents Know? Website: www.forworkingparents.com Charity mentioned in episode: https://targetovariancancer.org.uk/

    1h 21m
  4. EP 61 | Breaking the Silence: Conquering Shame and Finding Liberation feat. Jill Schultz

    11/20/2023

    EP 61 | Breaking the Silence: Conquering Shame and Finding Liberation feat. Jill Schultz

    Jill is our latest guest who opens up about her journey of healing and finding liberation from shame. Here are three interesting topics we covered: 1️⃣ From Darkness to Purpose 2️⃣ Finding Light and Love 3️⃣ Breaking the Barriers of Shame I applaud Jill for using her experiences to shine a light on such an important topic and if you want to learn more about her journey and find support, be sure to visit her website and check out her book, "Liberated: Releasing the Dark Cloud of Shame." Follow me on Instagram: @EveryLPodcast for exclusive content and please RATE and REVIEW on the platform you are listening on More about Jill: Jill Schultz is a disrupter, serial entrepreneur, author, and motivational speaker. Jill’s mission is to help release people from shame. Her own experience of experimenting with other children at a young age because of her own sexual trauma has led her to speak out on this taboo topic and help anyone who has a secret or has felt shame of any kind to create a life of love, success, and abundance. Here are some helpful links too: Book: https://www.jilleschultz.com/book Website: https://www.jilleschultz.com Seven Critical Steps to Heal from Secret: https://unshamed.live/7CriticalStepstoHealfromSecret Uncover your shame worksheet: https://unshamed.live/UncoverYourShame Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/livingunshamed/ Facebook Page:  https://www.facebook.com/jilleschultz Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jilleschultz11/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jill-schultz-30413514/

    1h 4m
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3 Ratings

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Real people share their personal stories of unexpected setbacks and disappointments in their lives. Although these experiences may have initially felt like losses, they reflect on the valuable lessons and growth gained from those challenging moments.