What if the job is only part of the problem?

What would you do if you realised the system you've been raging against lives inside you too? What if you’re secretly the one keeping it in place?

In this episode Caitlin and Chantelle are joined by Giana Ceresia — teacher, lobbyist, prison reformist, marketing executive, and self-described professional pain in the ass, for a painfully honest chat about the inextricable ties between work and our identities.

Giana spent two and a half years engineering her own exit from corporate before she left. Not because she was delaying the discomfort but because she understood that if you don't do the work before you leave, you will simply recreate the same system somewhere else, with yourself as the punishing manager.

Together we unpack:

• The hidden rewards that keep people in depleting environments
• The difference between self-esteem and self-worth
• What bitterness is actually telling you
• And a regular favourite of the pod - the weapon and the wand. The framework that will help you to look at both your strengths and your coping mechanism and ask: am I using this to build or to protect?

You’ll feel like you’re sitting at Giana’s kitchen table in the cosmos and you’ll never want to leave.

The homework is in the episode. Four minutes. Four questions. We dare you ;)

For ways to connect or work with Giana

• Instagram @giana.cerasia
• Women’s Community Circle
• The Apprenticeship

We go wherever connection lives. See you there.

If anything in this episode stirs something big, please bring it to a friend, a therapist, or someone who loves you.

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