The Kiwi CX Collective

Elias Kanaris

Welcome to the C-Suite Conversations, the official podcast of CCNNZ, created for and by the contact center and customer experience community. Join us as we take a deep dive into the three core pillars of performance in our industry—Product, Process, and People. Each episode features a relaxed, in-person interview with a top-level leader, celebrating their wins, exploring the lessons they've learned, and getting to the heart of what's really working in their operations. This isn't about shiny case studies; it's about real, honest conversations that will help you feel seen, inspired, and better equipped to lead your team.

Episodes

  1. The Invisible Load: Why Resilience is Your Best ROI with Debbie Schultz - S1EP12

    Jun 27

    The Invisible Load: Why Resilience is Your Best ROI with Debbie Schultz - S1EP12

    In the modern contact centre, resilience isn't just a "nice-to-have"—it's a business imperative. When your team is facing profanity, racism, and personal attacks on a Monday, it’s no surprise they are less likely to show up on Thursday. But how do we bridge the gap between keeping the phones ringing and keeping our people mentally safe? In this episode of The Kiwi CX Collective, we sit down with Debbie Schultz, the founder and CEO of Blue Sky Minds. From her early days in a tartan uniform as a bank teller in Edinburgh to her 20-year career in L&D and banking analysis, Debbie has seen it all. Today, she is on a mission to help New Zealand organisations build mentally healthy, high-performing teams. Debbie shares the science and heart behind her flagship program, Mastering Adversity Together (MAT), and how she worked with leaders at AA Insurance to prove that protecting your team's wellbeing directly fuels organisational performance. In this episode, we discuss: The 26% Breakthrough: How evidence-based training led to a massive reduction in emotional recovery time for frontline agents.The "Window of Tolerance": A simple, non-judgmental framework to help agents recognize when they are "rattled" (hyper-arousal) versus "numb" (hypo-arousal).Listening with No Agenda: Why the most powerful tool for a team leader is to stop coaching, stop mentoring, and just listen to validate.The Remote Isolation Gap: With 58% of some teams working from home, Debbie discusses the unique challenges of handling personal attacks when you aren't sitting next to your teammates.AI as a Safety Net: Leveraging real-time sentiment analysis to flag agent distress so team leaders can "check in" before the agent even has to ask.The "No Cancel" Policy: Why AA Insurance treats wellbeing huddles with the same strategic priority as business risk.Psychosocial Risk Management: A look at the shifting legal landscape and why "you can’t pour from an empty cup" is a warning every leader should heed.About Our Guest: Debbie Schultz is the founder and CEO of Blue Sky Minds. With a deep background in organisational learning and development, she specialises in designing programs for high-stress environments. Her work is trusted by major New Zealand brands to boost retention, increase empathy, and reduce unplanned leave through practical, bite-sized wellbeing tools. Connect with Debbie: LinkedIn: Debbie SchultzWebsite: Blue Sky MindsBook a Coffee: You can book a virtual coffee or a 15-minute chat directly through her website.Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    44 min
  2. Turning Complex Insights into Human Outcomes with Anupama Wijesundara - S1EP11

    Feb 23

    Turning Complex Insights into Human Outcomes with Anupama Wijesundara - S1EP11

    In the rush to implement the "latest and greatest" AI tools, many organisations are accidentally investing $1,000 to fix a $100 problem—or worse, a problem that doesn't actually exist for their frontline. In this episode of The Kiwi CX Collective, we sit down with Anupama Wijesundara, a Data and Insights Leader who brings a rare blend of analytical rigor and purpose-driven leadership. With a background in frontline social work and experience managing high-pressure operations during the COVID-19 pandemic, Anu doesn't just see data points; he sees the kaimahi (staff) and whānau (families) they represent. Anu joins us to share his research on breaking down the "data silos" that hold organisations back and why successful digital transformation starts with a "Pause, Touch, Engage" approach rather than a top-down mandate. In this episode, we discuss: The Business Problem First Rule: Why you must identify the bottleneck before you pick the tool to avoid rolling out solutions nobody wants.Breaking the Silos: Lessons from Anu’s Master’s research on how legacy systems and heavy customisations act as barriers to true AI innovation.Impact vs. Performance: Why traditional metrics like AHT (Average Handling Time) fail to measure the real-world change being made in the community.The AI "Garbage In, Garbage Out" Trap: The risks of training models on poor data and the governance needed to create "safe spaces" for team experimentation.Cultural Integration: Anu’s journey from Sri Lanka to Aotearoa and why technology can’t fix a lack of cultural framework or shared vision.The Power of the Water Cooler: Why informal conversations often reveal the insights that dashboards miss.About Our Guest: Anupama Wijesundara is a Data & Insights Leader with over a decade of experience turning complex data into practical, human-centric outcomes. he is a specialist in reshaping service delivery for community-facing organisations and an advocate for using data as a tool for empowerment and advocacy. Connect with Anu: LinkedIn: Anupama Wijesundara Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    38 min
  3. "Why the Best AI Tool for 2026 is Actually a Pencil" with Liz Pinfold Reed - S1EP10

    Feb 2

    "Why the Best AI Tool for 2026 is Actually a Pencil" with Liz Pinfold Reed - S1EP10

    Is your customer experience strategy all data and no heart? In an era where AI automation and complex processes dominate the boardroom, many organisations are finding that their engagement is falling flat. This episode explores why the most powerful tool for 2026 isn't a new piece of software—it’s the critical thinking and storytelling that only humans can provide. On The Kiwi CX Collective, we sit down with Liz Pinfold Reed, a global CX strategist and founder of Good CX. Liz has shaped customer journeys across five continents for brands like BMW, Visa, and Dove. She shares her unique philosophy on how to move past "Maserati-speed" technology to find the human truths that actually drive loyalty and trust. In this conversation, we cover: The CX Equation: Why focusing on one "special person" and every tiny micro-moment is the biological imperative for brand survival.E + R = O: A masterclass in the framework where the Event plus the Reaction equals the Outcome, and how leaders can shape the customer's nervous system.The 2026 Pencil: Why the most important AI tool is actually a pencil—symbolising the need for deep thinking and "ideation" before implementation.Polyvagal Theory in Leadership: How understanding the "play zone" and psychological safety allows teams to innovate without fear.Vibe Coding: How intergenerational collaboration and "going strong and wrong" helps leaders spot blind spots and scale empathy in a digital world.This episode is essential for CX strategists, business founders, and leaders who want to ensure their technology serves their people—not the other way around. Guest: Liz Pinfold Reed, Founder of Good CX Connect with Liz: Website: Good CX LinkedIn: Liz Pinfold Reed Keywords: CX Strategy, AI, Human-Centred Design, Polyvagal Theory, Leadership, Storytelling, Customer Journey, Innovation, New Zealand Business, Psychological Safety. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    38 min
  4. The Paradox of Power: Why Great Leaders Serve First - S1EP9

    Jan 18

    The Paradox of Power: Why Great Leaders Serve First - S1EP9

    “People don’t want to know how much you know, until they know how much you care.” In the high-pressure world of Auckland Transport, where service is measured in real-time by thousands of daily commuters, Henry Gray (Head of Customer Care) believes that the true heart of CX isn’t found in a script, but in the Samoan principle of tautua—the belief that the pathway to leadership is through service. On this episode of The Kiwi CX Collective, Henry shares his 25-year journey from a frontline CSR to a boardroom leader. He challenges the industry to move beyond "desensitised" service and instead embrace manaakitanga, creating a culture where staff feel protected and customers feel heard. What we explore in this episode: Operational Innovation: How Auckland Transport achieved a 25% reduction in call volumes by simply giving customers more control through "Live Departures" and IVR technology.The 30% Stress Tax: A deep dive into the alarming reality that many agents carry 30% of their work stress home, and why leaders must move from one-off training "events" towards long-term wellbeing programmes.Predictive Engagement: Why using data to proactively reach out to customers makes them three times less likely to call back for the same issue.Aggregation of Marginal Gains: The discipline of getting 1% better every day and understanding that while success is a habit, failure can be one too.The "Untangibles" of Leadership: Why tone, humility, and EQ are the true markers of a world-class team, even in an AI-driven world.Henry’s message is a powerful reminder that leadership is a "privileged responsibility." If you aren't leading with a genuine desire to uplift your people and your community, you are missing the most vital part of the job. Guest: Henry Gray, Head of Customer Care at Auckland Transport Connect with Henry: LinkedIn: Henry Gray Keywords: Leadership, CX, Manaakitanga, Auckland Transport, Contact Centre, Servant Leadership, Staff Wellbeing, Predictive Engagement, Operational Excellence, Tautua, New Zealand Business. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    46 min
  5. The Mindset Shift Leaders Use to Empower Teams with Gail Meintjeis - S1EP8

    12/04/2025

    The Mindset Shift Leaders Use to Empower Teams with Gail Meintjeis - S1EP8

    Are your teams truly supported, or are they just keeping up appearances? Many leaders focus on hitting targets without understanding the human experiences behind them, leaving staff stressed, disconnected, and unsure of their impact. This episode explores how a coaching-led approach can transform leadership from transactional to genuinely empowering. On The Kiwi CX Collective, we speak with Gail Meintjeis, a leadership and coaching specialist, and former contact centre leader renowned for building resilient, high-performing teams. Gail shares practical strategies to help leaders create psychologically safe environments, foster self-awareness, and guide their teams to grow with confidence. In this conversation, we cover: Coaching that transforms: How structured, intentional conversations give people space to think, reflect, and find their own solutions.The hidden costs of pressure: Why teams without support can fall into reactive behaviour, stress loops, and reduced empathy.Leadership as facilitation: How moving from directive problem-solving to coaching cultivates clarity, capability, and self-trust.Seeing the full picture: Gail explains why understanding the human side of performance ensures communication flows from leadership to every team member.This episode is perfect for leaders, coaches, and CX professionals wanting to develop teams in a way that’s grounded, intentional, and deeply human. Guest: Gail Meintjeis, Leadership & Coaching Specialist Connect with Gail: LinkedIn: Gail Meintjeis Keywords: Leadership, Coaching, CX, Team Development, Emotional Intelligence, Psychological Safety, Growth Mindset, Resilience, Human-Centred Leadership, Empathy Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    1 min
  6. Solving Emotional Labour and Agent Burnout with Deepak Selvaratnam - S1EP7

    11/19/2025

    Solving Emotional Labour and Agent Burnout with Deepak Selvaratnam - S1EP7

    We often chase automation without a map, resulting in disjointed customer service and agent exhaustion. What if we adopted a scientific framework to measure, improve, and harmonize over 800 operational factors? This is the essential shift needed to move from chaotic processes to cohesive, customer-centric service. Joining us on The Kiwi CX Collective is Deepak Severtham, an international specialist in CX Strategy and Digital Transformation. Deepak defined industry standards as the architect of Snapshotz (used by 4,000 global centers) and RemotAbility. He operates from the conviction that frontline well-being must be prioritized to genuinely achieve customer transformation. We analyze the major industry shifts and tackle crucial questions facing modern CX leadership: CX Mastery: Requires a scientific structure assessing all 12 Functional Building Blocks, incorporating new essential competencies. Flawed AI:   Causes emotional labour and becomes an intrusive disruption, undermining agent well-being without input. Data Strategy:  Essential because 'data' is the fuel for AI; mandatory to qualify and utilize the new 'data lakes.'Leadership:  Leaders must shift from 'order takers' to proactive strategists, aligning cross-functional teams behind a single mission. Leadership Gift: Enabling leaders to visualize the 'full dance floor' of all interconnected variables for cohesive organizational communication. This episode is essential listening for CX strategists, business leaders, and those responsible for talent development, offering clear guidance on achieving service maturity that is both scientific and deeply humane. Guest: Deepak Selvaratnam, Global Customer Service Strategist (Creator of Snapshotz) Connect with Deepak: LinkedIn: Deepak Selvaratnam Website: Snapshotz Keywords: CX, Customer Experience, Contact Centres, Deepak Selvaratnam, Snapshotz, Remote Ability, AI, Automation, Data Strategy, Mental Health, Emotional Labour, 12 Building Blocks, CCNNZ, Leadership, Digital Transformation. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    42 min
  7. Why 'Staying Soft' is a CX Superpower with Angela Canton - S1EP6

    11/10/2025

    Why 'Staying Soft' is a CX Superpower with Angela Canton - S1EP6

    When customer aggression is rising and peak season pressure is on, the standard response is to focus on metrics and "be tough." But what if the secret to a high-performing team isn't about hardening up, but about "staying soft"? This conversation explores how compassionate, people-first leadership is the key to building resilient, positive, and genuinely effective teams. This is the core philosophy of Angela Canton, Regional Customer Experience Manager at New Zealand Couriers, who joins The Kiwi CX Collective. She shares her incredible journey—from a self-described "terrified introvert" at Inland Revenue to leading high-stakes teams at Hato Hone St. John, to delivering on the promise at New Zealand Couriers. Angela explains her "people-first" mindset and how she builds a strong, supportive culture in the face of digital change and rising customer entitlement. We explore why "Quality" is a more vital metric than AHT and the practical strategies for building a truly human-centric team: The "Human X-Factor": Why did Angela personally review 500 CVs without AI, and what was she looking for?Coaching "Digital Natives": How do you "go gently" and empower a generation that is hesitant to use the voice channel?Leading Through Pressure: What is the "oxygen mask" strategy, and how does it help team leaders survive peak season?Protecting Your People: How can you use de-escalation training and technology (like profanity filters) to protect agents from a rise in customer aggression and incivility?Angela's "Magic Wand Wish": What is the one thing she believes would fix customer experience from the ground up?This is an essential listen for any contact centre team leader, operations manager, or CX executive who wants to build a truly positive and high-performing team. If you're looking for practical strategies to navigate pressure, champion compassion, and build a culture where people feel safe and valued, this episode is for you. Guest: Angela Canton, Regional Customer Experience Manager at New Zealand Couriers Connect with Angela: LinkedIn: Angela Canton  Keywords: Contact Centre Leadership, Customer Experience (CX), Team Culture, Psychological Safety, Employee Engagement, Compassionate Leadership, Coaching, Digital Natives, De-escalation, Resilience, New Zealand Business, CX Leadership, Agent Experience (AX), NZ Couriers. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    35 min
  8. "The Shocking Reason 80% of AI Projects Fail" with Richard Winterburn - S1EP5

    10/23/2025

    "The Shocking Reason 80% of AI Projects Fail" with Richard Winterburn - S1EP5

    Is your organization's rush to adopt AI actually creating a worse experience for your customers? With a shocking 80% of AI projects failing to deliver, many companies are caught in a "drive to the bottom," cutting costs while sacrificing the genuine human empathy that builds loyalty. This episode tackles that technology trap head-on, offering a new, human-centred playbook for blending automation with authenticity. In this episode of The Kiwi CX Collective, we sit down with Richard Winterburn, a 30-year contact centre veteran and CCNNZ Committee Member. Drawing from a career that spans 90s call centres to consulting for Buckingham Palace, Richard brings a rare and powerful perspective to the AI debate. He champions a philosophy where technology is a tool to empower people, not a replacement for them. We discuss why so many tech projects fail and explore the critical strategies for building a CX ecosystem that truly works: What is "Agentic AI"? Richard breaks down this new wave of technology, explaining the "train vs. car" analogy and why 63% of customers already prefer it for certain tasks.Can AI ever really be empathetic? We challenge the hype and discuss why AI is still a decade away from replicating true human connection, and where that human touch remains non-negotiable.How does AI empower agents? Learn how tools like call summarization are moving beyond simple "time-savers" to actively improve the agent experience and capture richer data.How do you build a culture that supports innovation? We explore the critical need for a "failure tolerant" workplace and why the "one perfect vendor" myth is so damaging.What is the "Win-Win-Win"? Richard shares his framework for focusing not just on your company and your customer, but on your customer's customer to find true success.This is a must-listen for contact centre leaders, CX strategists, and operations managers who want to move beyond the AI hype. If you want a practical blueprint for navigating new technology, getting your team on board, and building an experience that delivers both efficiency and empathy, this episode is for you. Guest: Richard Winterburn, CCNNZ Committee Member & Founder at DigEcom  Connect with Richard: Linkedin: Richard Winterburn Website: digecom.co.nz    Keywords: Artificial Intelligence (AI), Agentic AI, Customer Experience (CX), Contact Centre, Human Empathy, Agent Experience (AX), Call Summarization, Offshoring, CX Leadership, CCNZ, New Zealand Business, CX Strategy, Technology Implementation, CX Metrics. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    44 min
  9. Breaking Down Silos: The Secret to World-Class CX - S1EP4

    10/09/2025

    Breaking Down Silos: The Secret to World-Class CX - S1EP4

    What if the biggest obstacle to delivering a world-class customer experience isn't your technology or your budget, but the very structure of your organization? All too often, well-meaning departments work in isolation, unintentionally creating friction and frustration for the very customers they're trying to serve. This episode tackles that hidden threat head-on, offering a new playbook where CX is treated not as a departmental task, but as a company-wide team sport. In this episode of The Kiwi CX Collective, we sit down with Melanie Disse, a seasoned CX consultant, speaker, and the founder of Melanie Disse Consulting. Drawing from over a decade of experience and her background in competitive team sports like outrigger canoeing, Melanie has a unique perspective on organizational excellence. She now helps businesses break down internal walls and build a unified strategy where every single employee is responsible for delivering on the brand promise. We discuss why the biggest threat to your customer relationships isn't your competitors but your own internal structure, and explore the key pillars of building a collaborative culture: What does "CX is a team sport" actually mean? Melanie explains why customer experience is a collective effort and how every department, from finance to IT, impacts the end customer.Why is C-suite buy-in non-negotiable? We explore the critical need for an executive-level CX leader who can establish governance, drive accountability, and get everyone paddling in the same direction.How do you make company values actionable? Melanie shares her principles for "operationalizing" values, moving them from a poster on the wall into the daily work and decisions of every team.Are traditional metrics holding you back? We challenge the value of metrics like Average Handle Time and discuss how to choose measurements that truly reflect the quality of your customer's experience. Who is responsible for fixing problems? Learn how a mature Voice of Customer (VoC) program can channel feedback directly to the teams that broke the experience, empowering them to fix the root cause.What does the future of CX look like? We discuss the evolving nature of the discipline and the trends, including AI, that leaders need to watch. This is a must-listen for executives, department heads, and CX professionals who are tired of putting out fires and want a blueprint for building a truly cohesive, proactive, and customer-centric organization from the top down.Guest: Melanie Disse, Founder & Principal Consultant at Melanie Disse Consulting Connect with Melanie: LinkedIn: Melanie DisseWebsite: https://www.melaniedisseconsulting.com/Keywords: CX, Customer Experience, Team Sport, Silos, Leadership, CX Strategy, Company Culture, Voice of Customer (VoC), Customer-Centricity, Contact Centers, Melanie Disse, New Zealand Business, Organizational Alignment. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    37 min
  10. What Contact Centre Leaders Need to Know About AI & CX with Tim Muhundan - S1EP3

    09/24/2025

    What Contact Centre Leaders Need to Know About AI & CX with Tim Muhundan - S1EP3

    Ever felt the frustration of being on hold for an hour, only to be transferred and have to explain your problem all over again? That’s a bad customer experience (CX). Now, imagine a world where you are routed to the right person immediately, with your history already available, and your issue is resolved in a fraction of the time. That’s a good CX. In this episode of The Kiwi CX Collective, we sit down with Tim Muhundan, the CEO of Automate.CX. Tim, a former civil engineer, has a rich background in the contact centre and CX world, including being part of the team that implemented Air New Zealand's contact centre. He now helps businesses create seamless customer journeys powered by AI without losing the essential human touch. We discuss the critical crossover between contact centers and CX, and explore the big questions shaping the industry today: What defines a good customer experience? Tim explains that it's the sum of every touchpoint, from initial interaction to post-transaction support.Is AI a threat to human agents? We look at how AI can empower agents by providing them with all the necessary information, reducing mundane tasks, and allowing them to focus on empathetic, meaningful conversations.What are the biggest challenges and pitfalls? Tim warns against "shadow AI," where employees use unauthorized tools, risking data breaches and compromising confidential information. He also emphasizes the danger of implementing AI just for the sake of it, and the importance of a proper business transformation project.Who is responsible when AI makes a mistake? We discuss the crucial need for AI governance and human accountability, with the leader ultimately being responsible for any errors.What does the future hold for CX in a changing New Zealand demographic? Tim highlights the opportunity for AI to bridge language and cultural barriers, providing a more personalized experience for our increasingly diverse population.This is a must-listen for business leaders, CX professionals, and anyone curious about how to navigate the evolving landscape of customer experience and AI, ensuring that your organisation is both efficient and human-centred. Guest: Tim Muhundan, CEO of Automate.CX Connect with Tim: LinkedIn: Tim Muhundan Keywords: CX, Customer Experience, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Automation, Contact Centers, Tim Muhundan, Automate.CX, AI Governance, Data Security, Customer Journey, New Zealand Business, Omni-channel, Future of Work. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    43 min
  11. CX, Loyalty, and Trust: A Conversation with Debbie Klintworth - S1EP2

    09/10/2025

    CX, Loyalty, and Trust: A Conversation with Debbie Klintworth - S1EP2

    What if your frontline staff could be your biggest growth engine? 🎙️ Join us for an insightful conversation with our special guest, Debbie Klintworth, a globally experienced CX strategist and founder of Footprint Collective. In this episode of the Kiwi CX Collective, we delve into how to elevate customer experience from functional to phenomenal. Debbie shares over 25 years of experience working with top brands across New Zealand, Australia, the USA, and South Africa, transforming contact centers into engines of growth. We explore key topics from the conversation: * Why your contact center is a growth revenue center, not a cost center. * The power of a "human-centered" approach in a pre-AI and post-AI world. * How to empower frontline staff to be your greatest asset and provide them with a voice. * The importance of communication, collaboration, and building a strong, loyal team culture. * Scaling customer experience during a company merger without breaking your service. * The crucial link between staff loyalty and customer loyalty. Debbie shares invaluable insights on daily stand-ups, fostering a collaborative team environment, and the essential role of empathy in customer service. This is a must-listen for business leaders, CX professionals, and anyone passionate about creating memorable and measurable customer experiences. Guest: Debbie Klintworth, Founder of Footprint Collective Connect with Debbie: * Website: http://www.footprintcollective.co.nz/ * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbieklintworth/ Keywords: Customer Experience, CX, Contact Center, Customer Loyalty, Team Culture, Employee Empowerment, CX Strategy, Customer Service, Leadership, New Zealand Business, Omni-channel, Footprint Collective, Kiwi CX Collective, Debbie Klintworth, Customer Trust, Business Growth. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    43 min
  12. AI, Governance, and the Future of Your Job with Matt Ensor - S1EP1

    08/27/2025

    AI, Governance, and the Future of Your Job with Matt Ensor - S1EP1

    Navigating the age of AI? 🤖 Join us for a deep dive into the world of responsible AI deployment and governance with special guest Matt Ensor, founder of Kiaora AI. In this episode of the Kiwi CX Collective, we explore how AI is already shaping industries like contact centers and what it means for leaders in New Zealand. Matt, a respected voice in AI strategy, shares his journey from civil engineering to the forefront of AI innovation. We tackle the big questions: Are we using AI responsibly?What are the risks of "shadow AI" and how can we govern it effectively?How do you overcome the fear of AI in the workplace and get your team on board?The infamous Hertz case: a cautionary tale about prioritizing AI over customer experience.The future of jobs: will AI take them, or will it become part of them? Matt shares a four-step process for successful AI implementation, emphasizes the importance of human accountability, and offers a glimpse into the future of AI in New Zealand. This is a must-listen for business leaders, CX professionals, and anyone curious about the ethical and practical realities of artificial intelligence. Guest: Matt Ensor, Founder of Kiaora AI Connect with Matt: Website: kiaora.aiLinkedIn: Matt Ensor Keywords: AI, Artificial Intelligence, AI Governance, AI Strategy, Responsible AI, Kiwi CX Collective, Matt Ensor, Contact Centers, Customer Experience, AI Ethics, AI Implementation, New Zealand Business, Generative AI, AI in the Workplace, Future of Work. Connect with CCNNZ: Website | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook Connect with Elias Kanaris: Email | LinkedIn

    47 min

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Welcome to the C-Suite Conversations, the official podcast of CCNNZ, created for and by the contact center and customer experience community. Join us as we take a deep dive into the three core pillars of performance in our industry—Product, Process, and People. Each episode features a relaxed, in-person interview with a top-level leader, celebrating their wins, exploring the lessons they've learned, and getting to the heart of what's really working in their operations. This isn't about shiny case studies; it's about real, honest conversations that will help you feel seen, inspired, and better equipped to lead your team.