Born and raised in an Evangelical home and family, I have been to all the Bible studies, services, retreats, camps, etc., etc. Phil and Jen lovingly and intentionally provide guidance in all spaces of life from those who are seeking Jesus outside of a traditional church setting, to parenting, to marriage, to physical health, to spiritual formation, to emotional/cognitive growth strategies, and more. Their care and intention in loving the Church while also lovingly critiquing areas church people have fallen short provides a breath of fresh air and creates a safe space to have these conversations. Their voices are easy to trust as they embody the very growth and change they discuss and encourage. Very fun to have a husband and wife team that teach and work so well together.