Experience Matters with Steve Shapiro

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If you ask someone about the most powerful learning experience of their youth, few people will mention a lecture, a textbook reading, or a test. Nearly all will identify an EXPERIENCE; that is because experiential learning is the most profound and lasting form of learning. So if experience matters, how do we offer it to students in our schools? This podcast invites folks to share the learning experience that most deeply impacted their lives, and each episode includes provocations about how we can bring those types of experiences into the mainstream of American schools. Experience Matters is about harnessing the power of experiential learning to transform public education

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    Episode 22- Exquisite Compassion with Father Greg Boyle

    Exquisite Compassion with Father Greg Boyle Father Greg Boyle has spent most of his adult years helping transform the lives of former gang members at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles. In this conversation he applies his many lessons learned to how we can increase joy and reduce loneliness in schools through kinship, mercy, and meaning. We cover a lot of territory, including:  2:21 Greg’s childhood on Norton Avenue 4:23 How Bolivia turned Greg inside out 9:00 How Homeboy Industries came to be 12:26 Building a powerful culture 16:50 A powerful message from a Homie to teachers 19:02 The cultural problem in American schools (the power of relationships) 21:23 The powerful story of Lencho and true belonging 25:30 Exquisite compassion and merciful community 30:09 How Father Greg’s school addressed the most difficult students 31:02 Steve seeks counsel on the youth mental health crisis 33:13 The recipe for sadness and the recipe for joy and wholeness 36:57 How schools are rising to meet the challenge 40:06 Father Greg tells a story you won’t want to miss Learn more about Father Greg and Homeboy Industries Homeboy Industries’ powerful 30-year anniversary short video Father Greg’s commencement address at Pepperdine University Mike Wallace’s 1992 60 Minutes story on Father Greg

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    Episode 21- Liberate! with Dr. Michelle Sadrena Pledger

    Michelle Pledger confronted the internalized oppression from her experiences as a Black girl in a predominately white school; then she converted her newfound wisdom into a commitment to promote culturally relevant teaching practices that honor and support the lived experiences of all students. Her story is essential listening for anyone committed to true equity in schools.   We cover a lot territory, including: 4:00 Black in a White school 7:42 Michelle’s awakening 10:58 The personal cost of assimilation 15:05 Michelle’s challenge to you 18:08 Personal filters and blind spots 19:50 Decolonizing our schools 21:43 Liberating the curriculum 24:16 The startling impact of non-representation 26:44 Individualistic vs. collectivist cultures 29:48 Liberating classroom communication 35:20 Deficit thinking: our subconscious biases about intelligence 39:31 Ability grouping’s harmful effects 43:11 What’s stopping us from being culturally responsive? 48:35 Michelle’s call to action   Michelle Pledger’s personal website Michelle’s about page at the High Tech High Graduate School of Education Purchase Liberate! Pocket-Sized Paradigms for Liberatory Learning   About Experience Matters Experience Matters with Steve Shapiro invites guests to reflect on the most profound learning experiences of their youth and to consider how we can reform American schools. Each episode provides clues about how parents and educators alike can engage young people in powerful, sometimes transformational experiential learning. Education can take many forms, but whatever form it takes- experience matters.

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    Episode 20- The Power of Voice with Russ Quaglia

    Humans, young and old, share a basic need to have some authorship in our own lives. Dr. Russell Quaglia has built his entire career around how to bring students’ voices into focus in classrooms and schools across the world. The result is happier students who learn more. We cover a lot of territory, including: 2:55 The difference between hockey and school 7:40 Our basic human need  8:50 Russ’s definition of voice 11:21 The (often missing) factor needed for voice to thrive 14:50 Why surveys often fail (or worse) 17:30 Can kids really know what’s best for them? 22:24 The students we often overlook 26:24 A sense of belonging 28:25 The link between voice and learning 30:25 The link between voice and democratic citizenship 31:57 What’s stopping us? 33:49 Reflect on our purpose and renew our passion   Link to the Quaglia Institute for Voice and Aspirations Link to Steve’s short video reflecting on what has really mattered in his career About Experience Matters Experience Matters with Steve Shapiro invites guests to reflect on the most profound learning experiences of their youth and to consider how we can reform American schools. Each episode provides clues about how parents and educators alike can engage young people in powerful, sometimes transformational experiential learning. Education can take many forms, but whatever form it takes- experience matters.

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    Episode 19- The Achievement Culture Cure with Dr. Stuart Slavin

    Episode 19: The Achievement Culture Cure with Dr. Stuart Slavin When Dr. Stuart Slavin received disturbing data about the dismal mental health of students at St. Louis University School of Medicine, he broke into action. The changes that Dr. Slavin and his faculty made transformed the mental health of their students…AND improved their learning outcomes! This is a MUST LISTEN episode.   We cover a lot of territory, including: 0:54 Great news and a warning 4:29 Stuart in denial 6:12 Stuart confronts the dismal truth with a heroic response 8:20 Identifying the 3 main stressors and attacking them 9:50 Understanding the crisis as an environmental context issue 11:25 Stuart makes specific teaching and learning changes 13:09 Wait this is insane! The Yerkes-Dodson Curve 14:37 Creating space for powerful self-directed learning experiences 16:53 Cutting back content to focus on the essentials 18:26 Undoing problematic mindsets through cognitive restructuring 22:14 Surprising survey results on sleep and study time 22:51 Why wellness programs often backfire 23:51 STUNNING improvements in mental health and learning 26:25 High school might be harder than med school 28:15 Steve surprises Stuart with a new perspective on his work 29:41 The mistake high schools make when considering mental health 30:40 Achievement culture and racism both have institutional factors 32:35 The simple first step high schools can take 34:25 Where to focus: well-being or satisfaction? 37:30 A new learning value in a rapidly changing world 38:42 What about teachers’ mental health? 41:24 Stuart’s passionate plea to educators and parents- WE CAN DO THIS!   Dr. Slavin’s 2014 article in the journal Academic Medicine: Medical Student Mental Health 3.0: Improving Student Wellness Through Curricular Changes Dr. Slavin’s 2019 Journal of Academic Medicine article: Reflections on a Decade Leading a Medical Student Well-Being Initiative Steve’s blog post about impermanent learning: The Uncomfortable Truth About School Steve’s conversation with Emmy Huefner about her encouneters with achievement culture stress as a student. Steve’s conversation with Dr. William Stixrud about the impact chronic achievement culture stress has on the adolescent brain.

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    Episode 18- This is Your Brain on Achievement Culture with Dr. William Stixrud

    This is Your Brain on Achievement Culture with Dr. William Stixrud We are in the midst of a youth mental health crisis, especially among kids in “high achieving” schools. Neuropsychologist William Stixrud has a front row-seat to the crisis, with unique insight into emerging research on the impact that “achievement-culture” related chronic stress and anxiety have on the adolescent brain.  We cover a lot of territory, including: 4:20 How the Beatles shaped Bill’s brain 7:46 The difference between rich and poor kids’ mental health  8:58 The mental health status of “high achieving kids” 10:51 Detailing the adolescent mental health CRISIS 13:19 The cruel untruths we tell teens 16:52 How stress “sculpts” the adolescent brain 18:39 The relationship between the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala  21:41 A crazy story about fearing a kid in Iowa 23:17 How depression “scars” kids’ brains 24:27 The most important indicator of a successful childhood 26:58 How fear fuels the problem 29:00 The most stressful thing in the universe 30:47 Teenagers’ experience of learned helplessness 32:53 School policy strips kids of autonomy 34:53 Teachers need autonomy too! 38:11 The startling paradox of “good schools”   Here’s a link to my conversation with Emmy Huefner about her experiences with achievement culture stress.

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    Episode 17- It’s Not WHAT You Know with Julia Freeland Fisher

    In our race to cover state content standards and prepare students for high-stakes tests, many educators are overlooking a powerful strategy for transforming students’ futures and making serious strides toward equity. Policy analyst and author Julia Freeland Fisher preaches the game-changing impact of expanding students’ social networks. Julia Freeland Fisher is the director of education research at the Clayton Christensen Institute. Her team educates policymakers and community leaders on the power of disruptive innovation, aiming to transform monolithic, factory-model education systems into student-centered designs that enable each student to realize his or her fullest potential. Julia is also the author of Who You Know: Unlocking Innovations That Expand Students’ Networks, along with a great collection of blog posts and this AMAZING PLAYBOOK for implementing the ideas we discuss in the episode.  We cover a lot of territory including: 2:54 How Bear McCreary became one of the top composers of our time 5:20 Young Julia’s 1st-hand experience with “opportunity gaps” 6:53 Two types of social capital: getting by vs. getting ahead 9:01 WHAT you know vs. WHO you know 10:25 Breaking out of the school’s embryonic community 11:28 The inequity of inherited social networks 13:13 How “enrichment spending” exacerbates inequity 14:18 Research on the link between social capital and economic mobility 15:25 How schools can tap into community capital 18:23 Existing models for schools to engage networks 21:32 Overcoming “Byzantine” school schedules 24:54 How schools can track and systemize social capital 26:15 What gets measured gets done 27:38 A challenge to affluent people who care about equity 29:30 Whose job is this? 30:44 A simple first step for school leaders 31:52 The “low-hanging fruit”- Internship programs 33:20 Models/programs for school-wide implementation 34:51 Connecting with our WHY and overcoming teacher burnout   Here are some programs and tools Julia discusses in the interview: Big Picture Learning Network ImBlaze Educurious CommunityShare The Forest School Social Capital Builders Connected Futures Career Launch

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    Episode 16- 22 Voices from TeachBetter22

    In October 2022, educators from across the country gathered at NIHF STEM Middle School in Akron, Ohio for TeachBetter22. In this special edition episode, you'll hear 22 conference participants share the most powerful learning experience of their youth. The episode closes with an unforgettable tale from conference keynote speaker and Grammy winner Mickey Smith Jr.

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    Episode 15- Teenage Takeover with Sam Levin

    Teenage Takeover with Sam Levin Today Sam Levin is the 29-year-old Oxford PhD CEO of a biotech company. Thirteen years ago he was a high school junior exasperated at his friends’ disengagement and unhappiness at school. So he did something about it! Now students, teachers, and parents are taking note of his bold vision. We cover a lot of territory including: 3:11 The seeds of Sam’s discontent with school 4:28 Sam’s mom puts forth a challenge 5:11 A community garden reveals that teens can love learning and hard work 6:34 How teachers unfairly label students 8:46 Sam’s vision for a  student-run school meets resistance 10:37 The teacher that shattered Sam’s illusions 12:04 The remarkable vision of the Independent Project 13:39 Parents' fears about the Independent Project 14:15 The relationship between pedagogy and tracking/ability grouping 15:40 The foundational reasons we should stop tracking kids 16:58 The remarkable design of the Independent Project 19:07 Every student creates an “individual endeavor” around a passion 19:39 Getting into college 20:29 A “collective endeavor” to promote powerful collaboration 21:32 Practicing 21st century skills 22:50 The life-changing impact of the Independent Project 25:17 De-orientation to break bad school habits 26:30 Sam’s PhD. and the creation of Melonfrost 28:04 How the Independent Project planted the seeds for Sam’s CEO success 30:02 Sam’s advice to educators 31:30 Steve poses a thought experiment   Independent Project documentary (14 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RElUmGI5gLc Sam and his mom’s book about the Independent Project https://thenewpress.com/books/school-of-our-own Sam’s biotech company- Melonfrost  https://www.melonfrost.com     If you liked this podcast, here are some other episodes you can check out: A portrait of an exhausted, dispirited high school student: https://www.steventshapiro.com/experiencematters/a-letter-to-my-younger-self-with-emmy-huefner A mini version of the Independent Project for middle school students: https://www.steventshapiro.com/experiencematters/suzannegoldsmithhirsch Harvard thought-leader on 21st century learning Tony Wagner on why our kids need schools like the independent project: https://www.steventshapiro.com/experiencematters/tuned-in-to-the-future-with-tony-wagner NYTimes bestselling author Daniel Pink on how autonomous learning transformed his brain: https://www.steventshapiro.com/experiencematters/the-epiphany-with-daniel-pink    About Experience Matters Experience Matters with Steve Shapiro invites guests to reflect on the most profound learning experiences of their youth and to consider how we can reform American schools. Each episode provides clues about how parents and educators alike can engage young people in powerful, sometimes transformational experiential learning. Education can take many forms, but whatever form it takes- experience matters.

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If you ask someone about the most powerful learning experience of their youth, few people will mention a lecture, a textbook reading, or a test. Nearly all will identify an EXPERIENCE; that is because experiential learning is the most profound and lasting form of learning. So if experience matters, how do we offer it to students in our schools? This podcast invites folks to share the learning experience that most deeply impacted their lives, and each episode includes provocations about how we can bring those types of experiences into the mainstream of American schools. Experience Matters is about harnessing the power of experiential learning to transform public education

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