Have you ever felt inexplicably drawn to pick up a particular stone or crystal? Wondered why certain ones seem to call to you while others don't? In this rich conversation, host Sarah Gorev chats with Joanne Gillibrand from Tree of Life Holistics in Rugby - and Jo brings 26 years of crystal therapy experience to share. Her journey from Catholic upbringing (singing Latin hymns and drawn to ritual) to leading transformative women's circles is as unexpected as it is inspiring. What makes this episode special is how Jo combines the scientific with the spiritual. She explains vibrational frequencies in a way that actually make sense, then moves seamlessly into talking about leading circles where 40 women roar and sing. It's the perfect balance. You'll discover: What crystals actually are and the measurable frequencies in themWhy we're "chaos in human form" while crystals remain stable - and what that means for healingThe seven main chakras and which crystals correspond to each energy centreHow Jo's work evolved from personal curiosity to running Red Tent gatherings and drum circlesThe concept that stones can hold memory Practical guidance on choosing your first crystal How to spot fake crystals online and what quality indicators to look forThe dark side of the crystal industry and why ethical sourcing mattersWhy Jo's crystal shop consultations last an hour - because it's never just about selling stonesJo also shares her women's empowerment work - creating sacred space where even the most reserved participants in drum circles can't help but join in. She talks about Red Tent gatherings, the power of collective practice, and why buying crystals from her involves a deep dive into what you actually need, not just what looks pretty. This conversation explores the mystical (stone memory, energy work, sacred circles) and the practical (spotting fakes, ethical concerns, quality checks) with equal depth and authenticity. Jo's honesty about the crystal industry - including the rife problem of fake crystals - is refreshing and important. Whether you're crystal-curious, have been collecting for years, interested in women's empowerment circles, or simply want to hear from someone with genuine depth of knowledge, this episode offers something valuable. Jo holds nothing back. It's grounded, honest, occasionally spiritual, and proves that 26 years of experience shows. Perfect for: Crystal enthusiasts seeking deeper understanding, women interested in empowerment circles and Red Tent work, anyone exploring energy healing and chakra systems, people concerned about ethical crystal sourcing, beginners wanting to know how to choose quality crystals, spiritual seekers who appreciate both science and mysticism, or anyone drawn to holistic practitioners with real expertise. Links mentioned in this episode: Website: https://www.treeoflifeholisticsrugby.co.uk/ Offerings: Crystal shop, therapy, sound healing, women's circles, Red Tent, drum circles, gift vouchers, Christmas boxes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Treeoflifeholisticsrugby Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/treeoflifeholisticsrugby Judy Hall books: https://www.waterstones.com/author/judy-hall/347435 This podcast is here to inform and inspire curiosity, not to tell you what to do. Everything discussed reflects the personal experiences of our guests, and Sarah doesn't personally endorse any particular practice or approach. You're always in the driving seat — it's entirely your choice whether to explore further. Where guests offer the chance to try things for yourself, you'll find links below. And as always, nothing here is suggested as a substitute for personalised advice from your own healthcare professionals. Thanks for listening.