Eyes On Whiteness

Maureen Benson, Aaron Rand Freeman (producer)

Eyes On Whiteness is a podcast that illuminates the insidious and ignorant ways of whiteness, regardless of intent. Our guests are invited to talk about the ways white supremacy and patriarchy are pervasive and ever-present. Our conversations are rooted in a commitment to normalizing the "how, not if" lens for looking at the ways it's present for all of us. 

  1. 08/24/2025

    Part 4 of Whiteness is Shape-Shifting, What Must Die in Me: Transforming Whiteness with Love and Integrity

    In this final episode of the Whiteness as Shape-Shifter series, Maureen turns the finger inward. From the loudness of fascism to the subtle betrayals of liberalism, this series has traced how whiteness hides and adapts. Here, the focus is on the most difficult terrain: the reflexes that live inside the body, the mind, and the spirit. Drawing wisdom from Audre Lorde, bell hooks, Paulo Freire,  Richard Brody’s reading of Sinners, and Octavia E. Butler’s Wild Seed, Maureen asks: what has to die inside me for me to evolve, to transform, to transmute? The episode is inspired by Annie’s devastating choice in Sinners as a metaphor for radical boundaries, while weaving in ancestral and feminist lineages where shapeshifting is not sinister, but sacred. Diedra Barber reminds us that patriarchy and white supremacy stole this gift of the goddess—and that reclaiming it is a return to power-with, not power-over. This conversation is not about shame, but about practicing transparency, vulnerability, and love as acts of liberation. This week’s reflection: What does my body do when I’m protecting whiteness?What part of me feels like it will die if I don’t?And what might be born in me if I let that part go?When discomfort rises—in parenting, teaching, art-making, activism, or healing—how do my somatic cues shape my choices? This episode is a closing invitation to pause, notice, and reclaim the sacred power to shapeshift—not to disappear, but to appear more fully in alignment with love, accountability, and collective liberation. Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    22 min
  2. 08/11/2025

    Part 3 of Whiteness is Shape-Shifting, The Shape-Shift of Good Intentions: Still White at the Core

    Mini-series Part 3: The Shape-Shift of Good Intentions Still White at the Core In this episode, Maureen moves the lens from pointing the finger outward to turning it inward, tracing how whiteness shape-shifts inside us, softening edges, pleasing, and protecting the status quo even when wrapped in the language of justice. Drawing from Angela Davis, bell hooks, James Baldwin, Stokely Carmichael, and Ibram X. Kendi, Maureen examines the ways “good intentions” can mask white supremacist logic, and how liberalism often trades transformation for comfort. With help from Diedra Barber’s insights on how patriarchy and white supremacy have co-opted the sacred, feminist, and ancestral art of shapeshifting, Maureen challenges listeners to reclaim that power, not for compliance but for connection, accountability, and liberation. The film Sinners returns as a metaphor for assimilation’s hidden cost: the invitation that drains your soul while appearing generous. This episode is a call to notice where you have adapted yourself to fit systems, and to choose shapeshifting as a tool for survival, integrity, and transformation instead. This week’s reflection: Where do I shape-shift to maintain comfort rather than create change?What have I been taught by white supremacy and patriarchy that I am ready to transmute?How can I use the power to shift as a practice of accountability, care, and liberation?Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    19 min
  3. 07/27/2025

    Part 2 of Whiteness is Shape-Shifting, The Safehouse of Neutrality: How Institutions Protect White Supremacy

    Mini-series Part 2: The Safehouse of Neutrality In this episode, Maureen continues the deep dive into how whiteness shape-shifts...this time through the soft power of institutional neutrality. From school boards banning books to nonprofits redirecting equity funds, neutrality is used as a strategy, not a stance. With help from Audre Lorde and Ta-Nehisi Coates, Maureen explores how whiteness hides inside “objectivity,” “professionalism,” and “donor comfort” shielding itself from critique while punishing disruption. We also return to the film Sinners, where vampires can’t feed unless invited in...a sharp metaphor for how institutions drain labor and integrity under the guise of collaboration and care. This episode is an invitation to notice how neutrality shows up in your body, your choices, and your leadership and to replace silence with principled transparency. In this episode we explore: The DEI pullback across schools, nonprofits, and philanthropyHow neutrality protects whiteness by disguising harm as harmonyAudre Lorde’s warning about the master’s tools and institutional complicityTa-Nehisi Coates on policy, legality, and the false myth of apolitical violenceWhy discernment and transparency are tools of liberatory practiceThis week’s reflection: Where do I use the language of “neutrality,” “professionalism,” or “objectivity” to avoid discomfort?What’s the cost of that avoidance—and who pays it?Where have I been complicit in protecting the institution rather than disrupting the harm?When have I confused conflict avoidance with actual care?Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    23 min
  4. 07/14/2025

    Part 1 of Whiteness is Shape-Shifting, When Fascism Rebrands — Elon Musk and the Aesthetics of Whiteness

    Mini-series Whiteness is Shape-Shifting Pt. 1: When Fascism Rebrands — Elon Musk and the Aesthetics of Whiteness  In this episode, Maureen dives into the shape-shifting nature of whiteness—how it survives by mutating into rebellion, reason, and innovation. She takes us into the political spectacle surrounding Elon Musk’s “America Party,” his tech-fueled propaganda, and the cultural silence that followed his Nazi salute on a presidential stage. Drawing on the work of W.E.B. Du Bois and Ruha Benjamin, Maureen traces how whiteness adapts-selling domination through calm logic, clean design, and “free speech.” What we’re witnessing isn’t an outlier. It’s a blueprint. And without discernment, we risk becoming part of its performance. This episode is an invitation to slow down, notice what pulls our attention, and ask:  Is this charisma-or alignment? Is this disruption-or repackaged dominance? We also draw from the film Sinners as a cultural mirror. In the film’s world, vampires can’t harm anyone unless they’re invited in-a haunting metaphor for how whiteness operates. It doesn’t demand domination outright. It seduces us into silence, performance, or comfort—and then feeds on our complicity. Discernment, in this sense, is our refusal to offer that invitation. In this episode we explore: Elon Musk’s rebranding of white supremacist logicW.E.B. Du Bois’ concept of the psychological wage of whitenessRuha Benjamin’s framework of the New Jim CodeHow whiteness sells itself as progress—while reproducing harmWhy discernment is a critical skill in the age of performanceThis week’s reflection: Where have I mistaken sleek language, tech-forward branding, or contrarian leadership for actual transformation?Where do I follow charisma over alignment and how does that shape who I trust, hire, or elevate?What truths might be hiding underneath what looks “logical,” “objective,” or “neutral”?What’s working, what’s not and for whom?This is not about shame—it’s about sight.  Discernment isn’t suspicion. It’s care, clarity, and choice. For more resources or to join the community, visit:  www.eyesonwhiteness.com www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    20 min
  5. 07/01/2025

    Leading Without Ego: Nonjudgment as a Tool for Clarity and Collective Power

    In this episode, Maureen dives into the powerful practice of nonjudgment—not as a soft alternative to accountability, but as a path to clarity, discernment, and principled leadership. She unpacks how judgment (especially internalized) can cloud our ability to lead with integrity, and how nonjudgment offers a way to pause, inquire, and root critique in care. Through a close look at the recent New York City mayoral primary, we examine how progressive candidates modeled nonjudgment in action—setting aside ego, embracing strategic alignment, and practicing principled critique. Maureen also shares a personal reflection on the ways shame and judgment have shaped her own leadership journey, and how she’s learning to notice, pause, and respond from clarity instead of control. This episode is an invitation to slow down, to breathe, and to ask:  What’s working? What’s not? And for whom? In this episode we explore: The difference between judgment and discernmentHow nonjudgment strengthens—not weakens—accountabilityWhat NYC's progressive coalition teaches us about ego-less leadershipThe relationship between shame, projection, and leadershipPersonal cues Maureen uses to interrupt her own judgment loopsWho this episode is for: Educators navigating challenging classroom momentsParents struggling to let go of control without losing connectionOrganizational leaders learning to receive feedbackMovement organizers balancing urgency with inclusionAnyone trying to show up with more care, clarity, and integrityThis week´s reflection:  Where in your life or leadership are you making someone—or something—“wrong,” and how is that shaping your choices or perceptions?Whose voices have you intentionally or unintentionally quieted—because of fear, fatigue, or urgency?What would it feel like to meet your own righteousness with curiosity, instead of doubling down on being “right”?This isn’t about abandoning accountability. It’s about anchoring it in care—and returning to clarity in the moments that matter most. For more resources or to join the community, visit:  www.eyesonwhiteness.com www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    27 min
  6. 06/09/2025

    Decentering Power and Privilege in Real Life: From Parenting to Policy

    In this episode of Eyes on Whiteness, we’re exploring what it means to decenter power and privilege—especially in times of overwhelm, urgency, or fear. Maureen invites you into a vulnerable, provocative reflection on how systems like white supremacy and patriarchy teach us to equate control with care—and how that shaping shows up in everyday leadership roles: parenting, teaching, activism, art, nonprofit work, and more. Through honest storytelling and critical inquiry, this episode offers tangible ways to notice our defaults, practice grace instead of guilt, and choose connection over domination. Whether you’re a teacher managing a classroom, an organizer building coalitions, a parent navigating your child’s truth, or a leader holding responsibility in institutions—this episode is for you. We ask: What gets silenced when we stay in charge?How do our “shoulds” shape our reactions?What does it look like to transmute power—not perform it?This is not about getting it right.  It’s about returning to a practice rooted in courage, humility, and care. This Week’s Reflection Questions: Where am I centering my own comfort or worldview—and how might that be limiting the truth I’m willing to hear?Whose voices or truths have I intentionally or unintentionally silenced—and what structures make that silencing easy to ignore?What would it look like to lead with deep listening and shared power—even when overwhelm tells me to default to control?Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    28 min
  7. 06/03/2025

    Returning to Integrity: Practicing Accountability Without Shame

    In a world that rewards urgency, overwork, and perfectionism, what does it look like to return to ourselves—not through punishment, but through presence? This week, I share a personal story of falling out of alignment with my commitments—not from malice, but from fear, fatigue, and scarcity. I reflect on what it took to course-correct, to soften instead of self-judge, and to rebuild a rhythm rooted in integrity, self-trust, and care. I also explore examples from around the globe—stories of individuals and communities who are embodying integrity in the face of oppression, not through performance, but by building relationships, refusing silence, and staying aligned with their values even when the cost is high. Featured Stories in This Episode: Afro-German communities building self-sustaining infrastructure instead of relying on state validation.Saudi feminist scholar Hatoon al-Fassi, who risked imprisonment to hold truth to power through ancestral knowledge.Kurdish women in Rojava, co-creating democratic, feminist societies rooted in daily reflection and radical interdependence.Chicago’s Black Youth Project 100, resisting performative allyship and investing in mutual aid rooted in “We take care of us.”Crown Heights Mutual Aid created multilingual hotlines, raised funds, distributed rent relief, and built lasting infrastructure. Each of these stories asks:  What does it mean to stay rooted in your values when the pressure is to conform, perform, or disappear? Reflection Prompts: These are invitations to sit with, not solve. You don’t need to write your way through them. You might take them on a walk. Move with them in your body. Breathe with them in silence. Let them live in you, in whatever way you need this week. Where in my life do I feel out of alignment with my commitments—not out of malice, but out of fear, fatigue, or uncertainty?What would it feel like, in my body, to return to integrity—not as a performance, but as a practice of self-trust?How can I hold myself with tenderness and accountability at the same time, the way a gardener both prunes and protects?https://www.transmutingwhitesupremacyandpatriarchy.com/  → Subscribe to the newsletter for weekly reflections like these  → Learn more about the Cultivating Intersectional Leadership course  → Follow along on Instagram and LinkedIn for more practices, invitations, and community conversations Let’s Stay in Practice—Together: This work isn’t meant to be done alone. If this episode stirred something in you, share it with someone you trust. Name what you’re sitting with. Let these reflections ripple outward. Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    21 min
  8. 05/26/2025

    Integrity in the In-Between: Grace, Not Guilt for Justice-Driven Organizations

    In this episode, Maureen reflects on the gap so many justice-centered organizations face between what they say they value—and how it actually feels to work inside them. She explores the concept of Intersectional Integrity as a practice—not of perfection, but of presence. You’ll hear reflections on: What it means to lead from alignment rather than collapseHow shame functions as a tool of white supremacy cultureWhy relational accountability begins with honesty about ourselvesMaureen also shares a deeply personal story about her time in these organizations—naming how power, shame, and internalized white supremacy shaped her behavior, and how she’s learning to return to her values with more care, embodiment, and truth. This episode uplifts the voices of Black women (shout out to EbonyJanice who taught me to "Listen to Black women") who have long modeled this kind of integrity through rest, ritual, reflection, and refusal—including Tricia Hersey, Rev. angel Kyodo williams, Ashley Marshall, and more. This is not a call-out. It’s a calling back. Into honesty. Into alignment. Into grace. Links + Resources: Learn more or bring your team into this work Subscribe to the weekly newsletter for tools, reflections, and practice promptscultivatingintersectionalleadership.com This week´s reflections: Where in your work are you moving in overwhelm and/or on autopilot—and what would it take to pause and explore the impact of that on your choices, intentions, and (re)actions? How do your experiences with intersecting identities—both targeted and non-targeted—shape how you show up, protect yourself, or take on responsibility? In the midst of urgency, pressure, or fatigue, what might shift if you were fully in integrity with your beliefs and values?Support the show This episode was created with deep love, and deep thanks to the frameworks and tools within Cultivating Intersectional Leadership, a course I co-created with Diedra Barber. CIL isn’t just a training. It’s a transformative journey—one that supports individuals and organizations in making the systemic, strategic, and spiritual shifts needed to build something different. Something rooted in justice. Something aligned with who we say we want to be. You're invited to learn more or inquire about participation at: 🌐 www.cultivatingintersectionalleadership.com Or visit our podcast site at: 🎧 www.eyesonwhiteness.com If this episode stirred something in you, share it. If you’re holding big questions, write them down. And if you’re tired—rest. But don’t quit.

    25 min
4.8
out of 5
43 Ratings

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Eyes On Whiteness is a podcast that illuminates the insidious and ignorant ways of whiteness, regardless of intent. Our guests are invited to talk about the ways white supremacy and patriarchy are pervasive and ever-present. Our conversations are rooted in a commitment to normalizing the "how, not if" lens for looking at the ways it's present for all of us.