Facilitating Change: How to create transformative spaces that inspire, empower & drive real change

Changemaker Allies

The podcast where world-class facilitators reveal the secrets to creating transformative spaces that inspire, empower, and drive real change. Join us as we dive deep into the art and science of facilitation, unpacking how to cultivate trust, spark innovation, and lead with vulnerability. From executive boardrooms to grassroots movements, our guests share practical tools, powerful stories, and groundbreaking techniques for fostering environments where changemakers thrive. Whether you’re a facilitator, leader, or changemaker yourself, this is your go-to source for cutting-edge insights and transformative strategies. Discover how to hold space in a way that empowers others to grow, connect, and lead the change our world needs.

  1. 20 DE OUT.

    Facilitating Systems Change: Rethinking Education and the Inner Work of Change with Daniela Papi-Thornton

    In this thought-provoking episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida sits down with educator, facilitator, author, and mother Daniela Papi-Thornton to explore what it truly means to transform systems—starting with ourselves. Daniela shares her journey from founding a youth education organization in Cambodia to reshaping how institutions around the world teach social innovation. Together, they unpack the deeper purpose of education, the myth of “fixing” systems, and why inner work is central to creating outer change. Daniela challenges traditional models of leadership and entrepreneurship, revealing how systems are “perfectly designed to get the results they’re getting”—and what it takes to shift them toward well-being and wholeness. Listeners will come away with a renewed understanding of systems-led leadership, the importance of mental models, and practical insights for educators and changemakers who want to contribute to the next era of learning and transformation. Guest Bio: Daniela Papi-Thornton is an educator, facilitator, and author whose work focuses on systems-led leadership—an approach to social innovation that centers on systems understanding. She is currently a lecturer at the University of Colorado Boulder and a consultant to education organizations, foundations, and for-profits committed to systems change. She previously served as Deputy Director of the Skoll Centre for Social Entrepreneurship at Oxford’s Saïd Business School and has lectured at Yale School of Management, Watson Institute, and Dartmouth College. Daniela designed the Impact Gaps Canvas, launched the Map the System competition now hosted by over 50 institutions, and co-authored Learning Service and The 55 Minutes. Her influential report Tackling Heropreneurship and TEDx Talk Reclaiming Social Entrepreneurship have shaped a global conversation around reimagining social change. Learn more about Daniela’s work and join the Systems Change Educators community at systemschangeeducatorsunite.com. Links: Systems Change Educators Unite Impact Gaps Canvas Map the System Daniela’s TEDx Talk – Reclaiming Social Entrepreneurship Learning Service (Book) Enjoy!

    1h7min
  2. 6 DE OUT.

    Deep Dive: Every Team Needs a Super-Facilitator

    In this conversation, Mentor Dida and Cole Hoover break down Harvard Business Review’s “Every Team Needs a Super-Facilitator” by Jamil Zaki and connect it to what we’ve learned from dozens of world-class spaceholders on Facilitating Change. We unpack the article’s three pillars - attunement, communication, and distribution—and translate them into practical moves for leaders who want meetings that actually create progress.  What you’ll learn How super facilitators sense the room, name tensions, and invite quieter voices without losing momentum. Harvard Business Review Ways to communicate with clarity and care, so challenge fuels learning instead of shutdown. How to “keep the ball moving” so contribution is distributed and collective intelligence shows up.  When to open the door wide vs. curate the room, and why design before the meeting often determines the outcome. Tactics for power dynamics: naming power, creating structure, and using small groups to share airtime. Why movement, somatic cues, and thoughtful transitions matter—onsite and on Zoom. The “time paradox” of transformation: planting seeds, holding patience, still delivering value now. Who this episode is for Leaders, facilitators, learning designers, team coaches, and anyone responsible for turning a group’s time together into real change. Links Harvard Business Review: Every Team Needs a Super-Facilitator — Jamil Zaki. Harvard Business Review Zach Mercurio on The Power of Mattering. Zach Mercurio+1 Adam Kahane, Power and Love (book). PenguinRandomhouse.com David Ehrlichman, Impact Networks (book). PenguinRandomhouse.com+1 Jeff Hittner, Ambitious Dads (Substack). https://ambitiousdads.substack.com/  If this episode lands, share it with a colleague who runs meetings, trainings, or retreats—then try one small shift this week: name a tension, rotate a role, or redesign one agenda to distribute contribution.

    49min
  3. 25 DE AGO.

    Unlocking Inclusion: How to Design Learning Spaces Where Everyone Belongs with Shaheen

    What does it take to design learning spaces where everyone feels they belong - not just as participants, but as full human beings? In this episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor sits down with Shaheen, an inclusive learning designer and founder of Ta’leem Consulting. From growing up in a small town in India to shaping inclusive learning and leadership programs across Australia, Shaheen’s story is a testament to the power of education as both a leveler and a liberator. Together, we explore: Why education must go beyond content delivery and start with connection before content. The role of inclusive design in everyday learning and work - not as an HR checkbox, but as a mindset that shapes culture. How to hold space for complexity, balance openness with boundaries, and protect group well-being. Why conversations, stories, and even silence are vital tools for learning in an age of distraction. Practical strategies for designing spaces that honor mental health, diversity, and the unseen “backpacks” people carry with them. Shaheen also shares her Inclusive Learning Framework, a practical tool for teams and organizations who want to embed equity and inclusion at their core. And for Facilitating Change listeners, she’s offering an exclusive 20% discount - just book a discovery call here and share what resonated with you from this episode. This is a conversation for facilitators, educators, leaders, and anyone who believes learning should unlock human potential - not shut it down. Links: About Shaheen: taleemconsulting.com/about LinkedIn: Shaheen Hajira Inclusive Learning Framework: taleemconsulting.com/audits

    1h7min
  4. 18 DE AGO.

    Why the Margins Hold the Facilitation Magic: A Conversation with Mansi Jasuja

    Some people stumble into facilitation. Mansi Jasuja designed her way here - literally. From practicing architecture in India to working with the UN and EU on environmental projects, her path has been anything but linear. What unites it all? A deep calling to serve, to listen, and to create spaces where people belong. Rooted in her Sikh heritage, her yoga practice, and a lifelong love for the planet, Mansi calls herself a warrior of the heart. Over the past 15 years, she’s turned her focus toward facilitation, participatory leadership, and systems change - helping groups move beyond business-as-usual into collaboration, equity, and bold collective action. In this conversation, Mansi and Mentor explore what facilitation really looks like when it’s rooted in values and purpose - and why it matters for anyone leading change today. You’ll walk away with both inspiration and practical tools you can apply right away. Together, they dive into: How Mansi’s journey from architecture to environmental work to facilitation shaped the way she designs spaces for learning and collaboration. Why belonging is the hidden superpower of facilitation - and how to intentionally create it in any group. The role of values - like social justice, equality, and sewa (service) - in designing meaningful conversations and processes. The Art of Hosting and Harvesting: what it means to create participatory spaces where everyone’s voice can shape the outcome, and how to capture the wisdom that emerges. What it looks like to host at the edges and tend to the margins, where unheard and unseen voices rise to lead. Simple, practical ways facilitators can bring more depth, heart, and play into their work. Mansi reminds us that facilitation isn’t about standing in front of the room - it’s about holding space with courage, presence, and care. If you’re curious about how to design conversations that spark real change - and why the edges often hold the most powerful voices - this episode will inspire you to step into your own practice with fresh eyes. Connect with Mansi Jasuja LinkedIn: Mansi Jasuja

    1h5min
  5. 12 DE AGO.

    Where Community Building, Learning Experience Design, and Facilitation Meet: Insights from Anamaria Dorgo

    Episode Description What happens when you combine the art of community building, the craft of learning experience design, and the skill of facilitation? That’s where Anamaria Dorgo lives. A learning strategist and community architect, she helps organizations create spaces where people connect, grow, and transform - whether it’s launching L&D Shakers, a global community of 8,000+ learning professionals; building peer-learning networks for distributed teams; or facilitating programs that help first-time leaders build confidence, break silos, and share best practices across cultures. In this episode, Anamaria and Mentor explore: Why communities of practice are powerful drivers of connection, innovation, and change. The difference between a network and a community - and why it matters. How learning experience design shapes community journeys. The role of facilitation in creating safe, participatory spaces that invite diverse perspectives. Common mistakes organizations make when building communities - and how to avoid them. The future of communities in an AI-powered world, and why “being human” is still our competitive advantage. Anamaria shares her own journey from psychology and HR into facilitation and community leadership, the lessons she’s learned from building global communities of practice, and practical strategies for making communities both vibrant and sustainable. If you’ve ever wondered how to create spaces where people feel they belong, contribute, and grow - this conversation will give you clarity, inspiration, and tools you can apply right away. Connect with AnaMaria Dorgo LinkedIn: Anamaria Dorgo Newsletter – The IRrEGULAR LEtTER: Subscribe here Podcast – Mapping Ties: Listen here

    1h5min
  6. 4 DE AGO.

    The Space Between the Sessions - What 30 Conversations Taught Us About Facilitating Change

    What happens when you sit down for 30 conversations with some of the most thoughtful facilitators on the planet? You start to see patterns. You start to feel shifts. And you begin to realize: facilitation isn’t a technique - it’s a way of being. In this milestone episode, Mentor and Cole turn the mics on themselves to reflect on the journey so far. Together, they revisit the moments that cracked something open, the insights that lingered long after the recording stopped, and the deep themes that showed up across every single interview. You’ll hear stories and lessons about: Why great facilitators are like tuned instruments - able to read a room, feel what’s needed, and not flinch when things get messy. How setting the space (physically, emotionally, energetically) is just as important as what happens in the space. The myth of the "perfect session" and the beauty of designing for seasons, not single events. Reimagining power - not as something to hold, but as something to share. The surprising reason so many amazing space holders don’t even call themselves facilitators. This episode is equal parts celebration and invitation. We’re not just looking back - we’re asking forward. If you’ve been listening and learning with us, now’s your chance: What questions are still alive for you? What spaces are you trying to transform? And what kind of world could we build if we all learned to hold space a little better? Mentioned in this episode: The Soil of Leadership by Britt Yamamoto Love and Power by Adam Kahane SessionLab’s State of Facilitation Report The magic of Jeff Hitler, Greg, Natasha, Vipul, and many more past guests Coming Soon: A special series on Facilitating Change in Education. Know someone reimagining how we learn? Send them our way. Keep the conversation going: Connect with us on LinkedIn or at changemakerallies.org

    50min

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The podcast where world-class facilitators reveal the secrets to creating transformative spaces that inspire, empower, and drive real change. Join us as we dive deep into the art and science of facilitation, unpacking how to cultivate trust, spark innovation, and lead with vulnerability. From executive boardrooms to grassroots movements, our guests share practical tools, powerful stories, and groundbreaking techniques for fostering environments where changemakers thrive. Whether you’re a facilitator, leader, or changemaker yourself, this is your go-to source for cutting-edge insights and transformative strategies. Discover how to hold space in a way that empowers others to grow, connect, and lead the change our world needs.

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