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8 giờ trước • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

Apocalypse Not Now

Kris and Matthew have some more spicy and it's about the latest AI news cycle: a greater than ten percent chance that AI wipes out humanity inside a decade. Neither of them are worried about it, what does is why everyone else is so worried about it. Kris brings his usual devil's advocate perspective: a 10% chance of extinction is also a 90% chance of non-extinction. He then widens the field of view to the more full argument, which is that AI is the easiest thing for everyone to point at. Matt takes a different direction and takes the argument at face value and walks it forward, ending with him once again reminding everyone that he is a stanch supporter of the second amendment. In the end, the two settle on the wider issue, that we continually use proxies instead of understanding the actual underlying problems and ultimately that we need to build a world with fewer ceilings and more floors. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes a more nuanced perspective on what mid 20th century America was actually like when it comes to wealth inequality, whether we are actually living through the worst time in history, why no one has a billion dollars in their checking account, why Gen Z needs to stop telling Millennials to retire, the importance of people having high agency, and more. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/s3Oz6RwkelQ. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: A 10 Percent Chance of Extinction (00:02:12) * Chapter 2: Fear Mongering at Its Finest (00:05:25) * Chapter 3: A Lack of Imagination (00:07:25) * Chapter 4: Doing Real Time Journalism, and Numbers Without Reference Points (00:10:08) * Chapter 5: Let's Walk the Path to Extinction (00:18:04) * Chapter 6: Technology Already Ruins People's Lives (00:21:50) * Chapter 7: AI as the Easy Boogeyman (00:23:44) * Chapter 8: When I Hear That, I Feel Nothing (00:29:49) * Chapter 9: History Blindness, and the Mid Century Wealth Myth [Extended] (00:33:35) * Chapter 10: Scarier Things Than AI, and the Title Readers (00:39:54) * Chapter 11: Is It Really the Worst It Has Ever Been [Extended] (00:45:44) * Chapter 12: Frontier Labs and the Pressure to Ship (00:48:49) * Chapter 13: The Age of Mass Proxying (00:52:02) * Chapter 14: Blame the Whole Chain, Not Just the CEO (00:55:35) * Chapter 15: A Billionaire Does Not Have One Checking Account [Extended] (00:58:36) * Chapter 16: You Can Just Do Things: Low Agency and High Agency [Extended] (01:00:05) * Chapter 17: You Can Just Email CEOs, and You Can Just Start Running [Extended] (01:03:28) * Chapter 18: Install Floors, Not Ceilings (01:09:36) * Chapter 19: Nobody Told Me How Credit Cards Work [Extended] (01:12:06) * Chapter 20: Nobody Is Gatekeeping Software Engineering [Extended] (01:15:24) * Chapter 21: Millennials, Retire So We Can Have Your Jobs [Extended] (01:17:18) * Chapter 22: College Is Not for Jobs, and Coalition Building (01:21:00) * Chapter 23: Fewer Distractions, and Focus Time [Extended] (01:23:40) * Chapter 24: Not Zero, but Very Low (01:26:02) * Epilogue (01:31:50) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip (...
12 thg 9 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

The Elements of Slop

Kris and Matthew have some feelings about AI they want to discuss. No, not about benchmarks or agents, but about the people using it to write things they should be plenty capable of writing themselves: the five paragraph LinkedIn post, the blog post, the tweet. Both Matt and Kris stumbled upon Pangram from the same source: Bryan Cantrill. The two go from there, discussing the ridiculousness of people writing short form posts fully with AI, to the purity tests that people insist on having, to the literacy crisis. This episode has a ton of spice, especially in the expanded edition. Speaking of the Expanded edition, this episode has one! This week it includes a side project that burned five billion tokens, why there is no correct way to pronounce anything in English, why "don't reinvent the wheel" is some of the dumbest advice our industry repeats, the pushback Mitchell Hashimoto gets, the New York subway fare as a case study in being furious about something you don't understand, and why Kris thinks a decade should be the longest sentence anybody should serve. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/floML9DtF2c. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Show Notes: * Kirsten Lowe - Literacy Crisis 101 ( https://www.tiktok.com/@workbravely/video/7677783817238646046 ) Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Feelings About AI, and the 35 Percent Blog Post (00:01:55) * Chapter 2: AI Tells and the Reader Revolt (00:10:18) * Chapter 3: Writing Was Never Valued, and Words Are Expensive (00:14:13) * Chapter 4: Nobody Cares About the Audience: Rage Posts and Ad Money [Extended] (00:19:01) * Chapter 5: The Literacy Crisis: Reading Without Comprehending (00:22:11) * Chapter 6: Five Billion Tokens: When Agents Overbuild [Extended] (00:29:13) * Chapter 7: No Compiler for Your Writing, and Writing Is Thinking (00:32:12) * Chapter 8: Where LLMs Actually Help: Cutting Shorts From the Transcript [Extended] (00:34:42) * Chapter 9: Code Has a Grammar, English Does Not [Extended] (00:37:34) * Chapter 10: Taught to Read Wrong, Taught to Hate Writing (00:43:08) * Chapter 11: Just Start, and the AI Book Farm [Extended] (00:50:17) * Chapter 12: Finish Lines, Titles, and Pedigree [Extended] (00:53:51) * Chapter 13: What Are You Building Now: LibC and Reinventing the Wheel [Extended] (00:58:54) * Chapter 14: First Principles, and the Pushback [Extended] (01:03:28) * Chapter 15: Comfort, Identity, and the Subway Fare Argument [Extended] (01:08:03) * Chapter 16: Purity Tests: Wealth Taxes, DHH, and Dirty Money (01:11:16) * Chapter 17: America's Own Record: Better for Who? [Extended] (01:16:49) * Chapter 18: Coalitions Over Cancellation (01:19:55) * Chapter 19: The Master Branch Rename, and Performative Fixes (01:23:38) * Chapter 20: Echo Chambers, Boycotts, and DOGE [Extended] (01:27:51) * Chapter 21: Respect for Each Other, and Making the Wealthy Wealthier (01:32:04) * Chapter 22: Forgiveness, and Letting People Change (01:36:17) * Chapter 23: Rehabilitation, and a Decade at Most [Extended] (01:39:43) * Chapter 24: Back to Literacy (01:41:45) * Epilogue (01:44:16) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip (...
5 thg 9 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

A Record of One's Own

Matthew hosts this week, joined by Kris and by Bailey Townsend, an AT Protocol community ambassador who builds tools for the atmosphere. AT Proto is the protocol underneath Bluesky, and this is a conversation about what it actually is beyond a social network. Matthew moved his own account onto a personal data server he runs himself, which is how Bailey first turned up in his replies asking whether he meant to delete his rotation keys. From there the pair expand on what a PDS is: your data, your identity, and your own way of doing authentication. Along the way there is Tangled, Leaflet, Hubble quietly mirroring 24 million repositories, and the reality that it's just a giant, web scale database. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes a report from AT Protocol Community Day at the Recurse Center, the difference between a Bluesky feed and a list, Matthew confessing he has never liked a single post, SDKs and notorious OAuth, and why warranty history should be on an open protocol. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GelJdfqWrtU. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: How Matthew Ended Up Running His Own Server (00:02:19) * Chapter 2: What AT Proto Is, and What Bailey Builds On It (00:04:37) * Chapter 3: Owning Your Data, and Taking It With You (00:08:17) * Chapter 4: Beyond Bluesky: Tangled, Leaflet, and Owning Your Posts (00:11:30) * Chapter 5: One Identity, Every App (00:15:09) * Chapter 6: Auth for Free, and the Login That Was Never Bluesky (00:18:32) * Chapter 7: One Database Everybody Shares (00:22:48) * Chapter 8: Apps Come and Go, the Data Stays (00:25:24) * Chapter 9: Inside Community Day at the Recurse Center [Extended] (00:29:07) * Chapter 10: Hubble, a Backup of the Whole Network (00:30:40) * Chapter 11: The Best Parts of the Internet, and What Centralizing Cost Us (00:34:11) * Chapter 12: Spaces: Private Data Without the Encryption (00:36:17) * Chapter 13: How to Get Into AT Proto (00:38:49) * Chapter 14: Feeds Versus Lists, and the Cornbread Feed [Extended] (00:40:12) * Chapter 15: Confessions of a Bad Social Media User, and One Foot in Each Door [Extended] (00:44:21) * Chapter 16: Stacks, SDKs, and That Notorious OAuth [Extended] (00:45:59) * Chapter 17: From Markdown Files to Records (00:47:43) * Chapter 18: Identity Without Records: The Wedding Site Login (00:49:01) * Chapter 19: The Best of Sign In With Facebook, Without Facebook (00:51:06) * Chapter 20: Carfax for Everything [Extended] (00:54:36) * Chapter 21: Closing Thoughts, and Where to Find Bailey (00:56:15) * Epilogue (00:58:30) Host: Matthew Sanabria Co-Host: Kris Brandow Guest: Bailey Townsend Producer: Kris Brandow and Matthew Sanabria Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
29 thg 8 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

Be Kind, Rewind

Matthew takes the host chair this week with Kris as an unusually quiet producer. They're joined by Ron Efroni and James Bayer from Flox for a long conversation about Nix. Ron co-founded Flox and is also the president of the NixOS Foundation. James gives a live demo, going from flox search to flox activate with no commit SHA anywhere in sight, and Matthew finally gets an answer to a flake.lock code review problem: what exactly am I approving when the diff is one hash for another? Ron makes the cancel worthy claim that Nix is not hard, it just lacks opinionation by design, which turns out to be the entire reason Flox exists. Then the conversation turns to agents, why skills are software, and the company that uses Flox to turn back time on a model and replay the exact environment a bad answer came out of.
19 thg 8 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

A Modest Proposal Proposal

The proposal proposal gets the full Fallthrough treatment. Kris, Matthew, and Jamie dig into Austin's plan for taming the Go project's ever-growing proposal backlog. What starts as a recap becomes a referendum on how Go is governed, who gets heard, and what an open source community owes its members. Jamie brings a maintainer's reality check from Renovate's 1,700-item triage queue, Matthew wants to close the whole backlog and let people prove they care, and Kris argues the real product of a proposal system is discourse, not decisions. Along the way: whether Go is a democracy or a Google project, the joy economy that open source actually runs on, where "yes is forever" went when the UUID package shipped without consensus, and the gloves finally coming off over performative civility in Go's discussion spaces. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes Steve getting ratioed by Gen X on TikTok, T9 texting supremacy, why Go should never become a nation state, the IETF as proof that communities of joy do ship, and the biggest lie in open source. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Ratioed on TikTok: Gen X vs the Millennials [Extended] (00:06:26) * Chapter 2: The Proposal Proposal: Recap and First Reactions (00:09:44) * Chapter 3: Nobody Wants to Run the Process (00:19:49) * Chapter 4: Is Go Even a Democracy? (00:25:12) * Chapter 5: Just Close the Backlog (00:31:29) * Chapter 6: Let People Talk: Discourse Is the Product (00:41:31) * Chapter 7: Discussion vs Commitment (00:51:04) * Chapter 8: Missing Lexicographers and Shepherds (00:56:37) * Chapter 9: The Joy Economy: Who Gets to Say No? (01:03:58) * Chapter 10: Parliaments, Nation States, and the IETF [Extended] (01:17:29) * Chapter 11: Yes Is Forever: UUID, Accountability, and 5,000 Words (01:27:52) * Chapter 12: What Could They Actually Do? (01:38:17) * Chapter 13: Losing Faith: Modules, Blame, and Bright Spots (01:44:29) * Chapter 14: Performative Civility: Speak Better, Never Listen Better (01:56:15) * Epilogue (02:07:15) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Hosts: Matthew Sanabria and Jamie Tanna Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
14 thg 8 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

Backlog to the Future

Kris is back from GopherCon, Matt is back from the lawn, and Fallthrough is back with news: a brand new website and a whole new show, Continue: Go Proposals Edition, a weekly look at Go proposals. The topic for this week's Fallthrough? It's a listener-requested deep dive into what the two of them have actually been building with AI agents. In the regular edition, Kris runs a frontier-model pricing bake-off and comes away fascinated by how dirt cheap Luna is, Matt hands eight well-scoped Linear issues to overnight orbs and wakes up to three merged PRs, and the two land on a shared principle: even when the inference happens in a data center, the harness should run on hardware you own. It all wraps with Matt prototyping an integration by voice on a walk in the park. Expanded edition? We've got one of those! This week it includes Matt's deep dive on AMP betting everything on orbs, a breakdown of the proposal to change Go's proposal process, the one line that gives the whole document away, Kris's redesign built on gates, shepherds, and commitments, a hard conversation about civility and power in Go discourse, and the case for a decentralized Go. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: New Website, New Show: Continue (00:02:28) * Chapter 2: What Kris Built: PHP, Rhetoric Analysis, and Dirt Cheap Luna (00:12:55) * Chapter 3: Matt's Agent Assembly Line: Linear Issues to Merged PRs (00:24:20) * Chapter 4: Harness Hopping: Codex, Claude Code, and Agent Teams (00:33:29) * Chapter 5: Orbin' Time: AMP Bets Everything on Remote Agents [Extended] (00:36:39) * Chapter 6: The Economics Flipped: Intelligence Too Cheap to Meter (00:42:45) * Chapter 7: Keeping the Harness on Your Own Hardware: A Dollar of Orbs (00:49:38) * Chapter 8: Vibe Coding, Skill Atrophy, and Prototyping on a Walk (00:58:45) * Chapter 9: The Proposal Proposal [Extended] (01:08:17) * Chapter 10: We're All Too Busy: The Line That Gives It Away [Extended] (01:20:51) * Chapter 11: Gates, Shepherds, and Commitments: Redesigning the Process [Extended] (01:31:46) * Chapter 12: “We Aren't Doing This”: Authority and Shutting Down Debate [Extended] (01:39:41) * Chapter 13: Civility as a Weapon: Discourse, Power, and the Code of Conduct [Extended] (01:47:29) * Chapter 14: Stuck at Google [Extended] (01:56:20) * Chapter 15: The Case for a Decentralized Go [Extended] (02:09:07) * Epilogue (02:13:02) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
5 thg 8 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

Vibe and Prejudice

We've got the classic trio of Kris, Matt, and Steve back to discuss Steve's impending cancellation for putting himself in the middle of some drama! Steve gives us a recount of the current saga between Zig, Rust, Bun, Fil-C, and his own programming language, Rue. The group discuss the problems with the drama, especially since it overshadows an amazing technical feat: a million lines of code ported to a new language in a week, then shipped to real customers, with a product that pulls in billions of dollars. Steve also made the mistake of complimenting Zig, which caused a 163 comment dog pile onto him. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes what it costs a community when the BDFL of a language says your code sucks, why the fear that LLMs can appear to think says more about us than about them, Steve on why you cannot ban a bunch of floats in a text file, Fil-C's promise of memory safe C and the trade-offs its author will not name, the pull request titled make Zig actually memory safe (unlike Rust), Odin not being notable enough, and Steve drops some exclusive new thoughts: agentic development is actually RTS macro versus micro. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Bun Leaves Zig for Rust, in Public, by Accident (00:02:47) * Chapter 2: Memory Problems, the Unsafe Burndown, and Andrew's Post (00:10:22) * Chapter 3: When the BDFL Says Your Code Sucks [Extended] (00:14:18) * Chapter 4: A Million Lines in a Week (00:18:54) * Chapter 5: Human Thinking Has Been Bad for Us Too [Extended] (00:21:08) * Chapter 6: Fil-C and the Trade-offs Nobody Wants to Name [Extended] (00:27:27) * Chapter 7: Where the Two Flame Wars Collide [Extended] (00:32:27) * Chapter 8: Roo: The Compiler Steve Did Not Write (00:36:06) * Chapter 9: 163 Replies for Complimenting Zig on Hacker News (00:41:20) * Chapter 10: Odin, Wikipedia, and a Toy Language That Is More Notable [Extended] (00:47:56) * Chapter 11: One Hundred Thousand Lines I Have Not Read (00:49:40) * Chapter 12: Compilers Wrote More Assembly Than We Ever Did (00:54:03) * Chapter 13: Vegan Plus Bacon, and the Cure for Binary Thinking (00:56:13) * Chapter 14: Never Arguing About Tabs Versus Spaces Again (01:00:55) * Chapter 15: Write the Documentation, Not the Code Review (01:04:52) * Chapter 16: A Fallthrough Exclusive: Agentic Development Is an RTS [Extended] (01:11:19) * Chapter 17: Effort Is What Makes It Not Slop (01:16:12) * Chapter 18: Still the Chaotic Beginning (01:22:48) * Chapter 19: Critical Thinking Is Curiosity, Not Skepticism (01:26:13) * Epilogue (01:33:28) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Hosts: Matthew Sanabria and Steve Klabnik Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
1 thg 8 • Chỉ Người Đăng Ký

Token Maxx: Fury Road

On this week, we've got Kris, Matt, and Dylan! Yes, Dylan is back to talk about GopherCon and his experience as a self declared late adopter of agentic coding. Dylan chairs GopherCon, speaks at it next week, and describes his own AI hockey stick as happening in about two months. Dylan walks through what is on the GopherCon program, then explains his coding agent tipping point: a dependency injection refactor he had written off that Claude finished in an afternoon. But he's not all in yet: he still won't let one robot review and approve another robot's code. From there the conversation turns to the machine underneath: the model as a CPU and the harness as an operating system. The trio then arrives at money and the uncomfortable reality of how expensive tokens are, and whether that matters at all. They also answer an important question: should enterprises be subsidizing the cheap subscription plans individuals enjoy? We've got an Expanded edition for this episode which means we've got extra content! That includes what really happens to your conference proposal when 200 submissions compete for 25 slots, the mystery process that had Kris's Mac humming , the 200 gigabytes of Go module cache hiding on Dylan's drive, agents that shell out to Ruby and Perl when you asked for neither, caveman prompting, and the math on what a $250,000 engineer actually costs per month. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: GopherCon Next Week: Community Day, Filippo, and slog (00:03:25) * Chapter 2: 200 Submissions, 25 Slots: Notes From a Program Chair [Extended] (00:13:10) * Chapter 3: Foot Dragger: The Refactor Claude Finished in an Afternoon (00:20:27) * Chapter 4: Fashionably Late: CoreWeave, and Dylan's AI Hockey Stick (00:29:24) * Chapter 5: Token Hunger and Overzealous Junior Engineers (00:37:47) * Chapter 6: The Harness Is the Operating System (00:43:29) * Chapter 7: Two Skills Worth Writing: Dependabot Chains and Chaos Forensics (00:49:33) * Chapter 8: Why Is My Mac Humming? 200 Gigs of Go, and Rust Doesn't Exist [Extended] (00:56:46) * Chapter 9: Context Is Everything: Bootloaders, Distros, and Second Opinions (01:01:55) * Chapter 10: Agents That Overbuild, and Caveman Prompting [Extended] (01:10:14) * Chapter 11: Thinking Tokens, and Why the Model Is the Product (01:20:06) * Chapter 12: Who Pays for the Tokens: Personal Plans vs Enterprise Tiers (01:22:29) * Chapter 13: Token Costs, Compaction, and the $32,000 Engineer [Extended] (01:30:40) * Chapter 14: If Everybody Does It: Token Maxx and the TOS Problem (01:43:21) * Chapter 15: Talking Matt Into GopherCon, Live (01:52:05) * Epilogue (01:57:36) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Hosts: Matthew Sanabria and Dylan Bourque Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )

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Continue is a short length podcast focused on covering specific topics through a series of editions. Currently the show has one edition, Go Proposals, where the panel covers various Go proposals of relevance in each episode.

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Break is a Fallthrough aftershow, where Kris and Matt discuss the shows we record and other random topics.

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