9 Secret Eps - A They Might Be Giants Podcast John and Jon

Co-hosts Jon Uleis and John Walker close out this podcast mini-series with a visit from lawyer, writer, and raconteur Jamie Lincoln Kitman, aka They Might Be Giants's longtime manager. Jamie offers an insider's view of several pivotal points in the band's career, as well as some poignant insights into the strength of John Flansburgh and John Linnell's supernaturally fruitful partnership and how the band has survived decades in this meat grinder of an industry. We also find out about Jamie's history as a car nut and why he went from law school to the wild world of post modern rock. This is a can't miss interview for fans of TMBG and a great note to end the show on, if we do say so ourselves. Dig it!

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Free when you podcast from work! Co-hosts Jon Uleis and John Walker find it hard to believe that it's taken this long to get to the topic of They Might Be Giants's Dial-A-Song, the phone service started in 1983 that served as the incubator for hundreds of songs, some of which made it to albums, and some of which were never revisited by the band. Thankfully industrious fans have captured many of these neglected gems for posterity, and the resulting low-fidelity phone line recordings have been widely shared, keeping alive what can be considered a mysterious alternate history of TMBG. Comedian and writer Andrew Tisher calls in to join the fun and make difficult choices as the panel creates a playlist of Dial-A-Song faves.

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“We've been doing this for nineteen years now,” said a reflective John Flansburgh in 2001, perhaps not aware that They Might Be Giants would “do this” for another nineteen years and then some, with no signs of stopping. And thanks to this recently unearthed, 21-year-old phone interview, you can hear the most gregarious John hype the band’s then-upcoming album Mink Car, detail a little onstage guitar experimentation, and ponder whether having music in a car commercial equals selling your soul (he doesn’t think so). Caffeinate appropriately and check it, like, totally out!

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Making 23 albums since 1987 has kept They Might Be Giants pretty busy, but that didn’t stop songwriters/frontmen/BFFs John Flansburgh and John Linnell from developing a few solo or spinoff projects. What can be gathered from these scattered releases? What is the meaning of John without John? And, most importantly, where do these walking, talking song machines find the time? All those questions and a lot more are addressed as co-hosts Walker and Uleis welcome comedian-podcaster-actor-songwriter and TMBG devotée Will Hines to the show. Bonus fun: Will also shares a few thoughts about his many appearances on the influential Comedy Bang Bang podcast! No trumpets left untrumpeted and no Beatles comparisons left unturned.

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Obviously boasting two fantastic songwriters helps, but a major factor in They Might Be Giants’s long career is their constant touring and energetic live shows. Whether as a duo or as a six piece—or any other configuration you can imagine—this is a band obsessed with taking their music directly to the fans. In 2020, a massive and nearly sold out tour celebrating the 30th anniversary of their breakthrough album, Flood, was postponed for public health reasons; the dates have been rescheduled for 2022. But in the meantime, co-hosts John Walker and Jon Uleis decided to bring in fellow super-fan, theremin expert, and generally thoughtful person, Mike Buffington, to reminisce about all the pivotal or just plain rockin’ TMBG shows they’ve attended. If that’s not enough, the very funny musician and author Mitch Friedman drops by with tales about what seeing the band in the mid-80s was like. Consider this jam-packed podcast a reminder that 2022 is likely going to blow your sweet little socks off.

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Death and serious injury are things nobody can avoid forever, and They Might Be Giants have never shied away from this ugly truth in their music. The band does, however, bring their trademark dry humor and knack for catchy, hook-filled music to the table when they deal with these heavy subjects. So the result is never just gloomy for gloom's sake, but instead indicates a genuine fascination with the inevitable. In fact, TMBG has so many songs in this vein that co-hosts Jon Uleis and John Walker needed help sorting through and picking their grave favorites. Enter Baltimore-based horror filmmaker Shawn Jones, with his deep appreciation for the band's obvious hits and hidden gems, to complete the panel. It's a life-affirming look at the bleakness that awaits us all! Send flowers.

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