Shack and Mu | On the Move

Dr. Sacoby Wilson | Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali

You don't need a degree to understand your power bill, your water, or your air. You've just been told you do. The Shack and Mu Show, hosted by Dr. Sacoby Wilson and Dr. Mustafa Ali, is a community-driven podcast about power, justice, and survival. After decades on the frontlines of environmental justice, working inside these communities instead of studying them from a distance, Shack and Mu break down government, energy, food, housing, and health into language anyone can follow.

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  1. 1 天前

    Ep 4: Urban Agriculture | Food Is Health, Food Is Wealth, Food Is Power

    "Food is health. Food is wealth. Food is power." Ep 4 of Shack & Mu heads to Southwest DC to talk food justice and urban agriculture with the people growing change block by block. Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali and Dr. Sacoby Wilson break down food deserts, food swamps, and food apartheid, then sit down with two leaders from Dreaming Out Loud. Founder Chris Bradshaw explains how a three acre farm becomes a catalyst for jobs, community wealth, and cultural reconnection, from seeds once carried in women's hair across the Atlantic to the African roots of country music. He makes the case for land back in the city, policy that protects growing space, and innovations like a mushroom farm built into a tiny home in Ward 8. Development director Sarita shares how she funds the work and why she launched a Food as Medicine pilot with Kaiser Permanente and the Marriott Foundation to prove what communities have always known. They close on a simple truth: access to food is a human right, and everyone deserves the chance to grow. In this episode (00:32) Food deserts, food swamps, and the food force (01:15) Food apartheid and who goes hungry (01:46) Why food is health, wealth, and power (02:40) Meet Chris Bradshaw of Dreaming Out Loud (03:08) What food insecurity looks like in DC (03:59) Urban agriculture, youth, and cultural reconnection (05:50) Land back in the city and the policy fight (07:31) How to start growing at home (08:28) Meet Sarita and the funding behind the mission (10:20) The Food as Medicine pilot (12:06) A message to elected officials (13:45) Food is health, wealth, and power Key takeaways Grow your own power. Community gardens and urban farms on every block turn food deserts and food swamps into a food force. Urban agriculture builds more than food. It creates jobs, community wealth, intergenerational bonds, and a path back to heritage food ways. Land back belongs in the city. Protecting urban growing space through policy keeps community farms alive. Proof moves funders. Dreaming Out Loud's Food as Medicine pilot builds the data to back what communities already live. Food is a human right. No one should have to fight for access to healthy food. About our guests Chris Bradshaw is the founder and executive director of Dreaming Out Loud, a DC nonprofit and social enterprise running a farm, food hub, and food incubator. Sarita is the organization's development director, funding the mission and leading its Food as Medicine pilot. To learn more about Dreaming Out Loud and their incredible work, visit dreamingoutloud.org and follow them on Instagram at @doldc. Back a local community garden or urban farm, and start something on your own windowsill this week. Follow Shack & Mu Listen: Apple Podcasts | Amazon Music | YouTube Social: Instagram | TikTok | Threads | Facebook

  2. 7月20日

    Episode 3: Government Shutdown | Money for War, Nothing for the Poor

    "We got money for war but can't feed the poor." Episode 3 of Shack & Mu opens on Tupac and lands squarely on the government shutdown and who actually pays the price. Dr. Sacoby Wilson and Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali break down what happens when federal workers go unpaid, agencies get gutted, and the safety net starts to fray. From the elimination of the Office of Environmental Justice to cuts at FEMA, NOAA, and food inspection, the hosts connect the dots between Washington decisions and everyday consequences: unpaid air traffic controllers, foodborne illness risk, Medicaid and Medicare cuts, and 80 million people uninsured or underinsured. They call out troops sent to blue cities, the "no waste was ever found" reality behind the cuts, and a ballroom rising over the East Wing while millions struggle. Then they pivot to hope, reading the November 2025 elections as a turning point and laying out what community, philanthropy, storytelling, and your vote can do next. In this Episode: (00:36) DOGE, an unelected billionaire, and gutted agencies(02:24) FEMA, NOAA, and food inspectors on the chopping block(04:19) Unpaid aviation workers and a Houston airspace shutdown(05:20) Troops sent to blue cities, and the DC test case(07:29) The waste that was never actually found(08:31) COVID echoes and rising prices(09:29) Medicaid, Medicare, and 80 million uninsured(10:46) Working without pay, and broken promises(12:21) What you can do right now(13:59) Reading the November 2025 elections(17:25) The beloved community and the moral arc(19:16) ICE, Homeland Security, and private jets(21:13) The East Wing, the ballroom, and erasure(22:48) Rapid fire: ROI, data, philanthropy, joy, and hope Key Takeaways The shutdown is not just a DC story. Unpaid workers, unsafe food, grounded flights, and a weakened economy ripple into every community.The cuts did not find waste. Inspectors general and the Congressional Budget Office exist to catch fraud, and the agencies were built because people needed them.Health cuts put lives at risk. Slashing Medicaid, Medicare, and coverage hits the 80 million already uninsured or underinsured hardest.Community is the response. Support food pantries and mutual aid, back the workers going unpaid, and tell the stories that make the impact real.Elections start the work, they do not end it. The November results are momentum, and accountability is what comes next. If today's conversation got you thinking, hold your elected officials accountable. Knock on their doors, demand they fight to end the shutdown and restore funding, and support the food pantries and mutual aid groups carrying your neighbors right now. Listen: Apple Podcasts | Amazon Music | YouTube Social: Instagram | TikTok | Threads | Facebook

  3. 7月16日

    Episode 2: Power & Pollution | Shack & Mu

    "You may not believe in climate change, but climate change believes in you." In episode 2 of Shack & Mu, Dr. Sacoby Wilson and Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali get real about disasters and the people the cameras never show: category five hurricanes, 128 degree heat, biblical floods, and the communities forced to survive them with the least help and the least blame. Opening with James Baldwin's line about making people conscious of what they do not see, the hosts trace a line from Hurricane Katrina, where Dr. Ali served on the emergency response team, to Maria, Harvey, Helene, and the LA fires. They name the pattern: the same people get hit hardest every time, and they usually contributed least to the problem. Dr. Wilson unpacks "compounding vulnerabilities," why a floodplain floods for a reason, and how toxic Superfund sites turn a flood into a poison soup. Then they turn to solutions: hurricane resistant housing, heat and housing justice, cooling centers, trees on every block, faith centers as disaster hubs, and building justice back into FEMA. In this episode(00:16) Hurricane Melissa and the case for a category six(02:58) Katrina on the ground, firsthand(05:51) Paper towels and "great job, Brownie"(08:21) Compounding vulnerabilities explained(11:40) Rebuild or relocate, and FEMA's inequities(15:20) Zoning, Phoenix heat, and building codes(18:04) Cooling centers, trees, and Baltimore's Code Red study(20:45) Rapid fire: faith groups, fossil fuels, youth, and FEMA(25:00) When disaster meets ICEKey takeawaysThe same people get hit hardest. Black, Latino, Indigenous, low income, uninsured, and floodplain communities carry the heaviest losses while contributing least to emissions.A flood is rarely just water. When Superfund sites breach, one contained hazard becomes a toxic soup spread across a whole community.Build justice into the code. Hurricane resistant housing, heat justice, and smart zoning protect people before the next event.Trees and cooling centers save lives. A single street tree can mean a 20 to 30 degree difference.Save the vulnerable and you save everyone. Equity in preparedness and recovery is the whole strategy, not an add on.Call your local representative and tell them what you expect on climate preparedness, find your nearest cooling center, and support the faith centers and mutual aid groups acting as disaster hubs. Follow Shack & MuListen: Apple Podcasts | Amazon Music | YouTube Social: Instagram | TikTok | Threads | Facebook

  4. 7月15日

    Feeding the Future

    "A system cannot fail those it was never meant to protect." In the debut episode of Shack & Mu, Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali and Dr. Sacoby Wilson pull back the curtain on America's food system and ask a blunt question: why do millions in the wealthiest country on earth go hungry, and what can everyday folks do about it? Recorded as new federal SNAP cuts hit 42 million people, this conversation moves from the kitchen table to the halls of power. Kobe, who grew up on free lunch and SNAP in Vicksburg, Mississippi, breaks down the difference between food deserts, food swamps, and food apartheid. From there the two dig into school lunch politics, the wisdom of Booker T. Washington and George Washington Carver, and why growing your own food is as much about dignity and spirituality as nutrition. They close with a rapid fire round on what youth, schools, churches, cities, and policymakers can do starting tomorrow. In this episode (00:35) The "big bullcrap bill" and SNAP cuts(01:00) Food deserts, food swamps, and food apartheid explained(03:03) School lunch, vending machines, and long term health(05:15) Booker T. Washington and self sufficiency(08:15) Muscadines, scuppernongs, and the neighborhood food forest(09:00) Hydroponics, aquaponics, and green roofs(10:34) Food as spiritual, food as dignity(12:00) The million dollar question: a garden in every school(13:48) Rapid fire: youth, schools, churches, cities, and policy Key takeaways Food apartheid, not food desert. The lack of fresh food in low income and Black and Brown neighborhoods is a designed system, not an accident.Growing your own food is power. From raised beds to green roofs, communities can reconnect to the land even without much land.Start with kids. A school garden teaches growing, cooking, and health all at once.Everyday people belong in policymaking. The folks who stood in the pantry line when the shelves were empty should help write the rules. Talk is good, action is better. Reach out to a neighbor, call your town council or PTA about a school garden, and check whether your local food pantry is stocked. Follow Shack & Mu on all platforms! Listen: Apple Podcasts | Amazon Music | YouTube Social: Instagram | TikTok | Threads | Facebook

簡介

You don't need a degree to understand your power bill, your water, or your air. You've just been told you do. The Shack and Mu Show, hosted by Dr. Sacoby Wilson and Dr. Mustafa Ali, is a community-driven podcast about power, justice, and survival. After decades on the frontlines of environmental justice, working inside these communities instead of studying them from a distance, Shack and Mu break down government, energy, food, housing, and health into language anyone can follow.