Fidelity: Design Podcast Bill Chung and Jon Rundle

We talk about the latest controversy on design Twitter. Jon doubles down on naming layers, and Bill finally admits that naming layers is marginally useful.

Bill resists buying an Apple Watch Ultra, no thanks to Jon. We chat about UX bootcamps, and the importance of building a tendency to be a self-starter when considering a career in tech. Note: we aren’t opposed to UX bootcamps—but if you’re considering the investment, know what you’re getting into before you sink your teeth in.

Jon is interrogated about his criminal record, while Bill laments the death of knobs and dials. We discuss the importance of setting expectations with stakeholders when designing with your back against the wall. Plus, advice for choosing the right artifacts to show up with when time is tight.

Bill fondly recalls the days of old when people showed up on time for meetings. We explore practical strategies for getting promoted, discuss the hurdles of managing different expectations at various levels, and share valuable insights on how to effectively advocate for yourself.

This week Jon and Bill converse about fidelity and how to consider approaching different levels of fidelity based on the problem at hand. Plus, Bill is jealous of Jon’s Figma files.

In this inaugural episode, product designers Jon and Bill chat about their cool selves, the origins of the show, and topics you can expect in future episodes.