Fluid Exchange is a series of conversations hosted by Charlie Looker and M. Lamar with culture makers from the worlds of music and art. Looker and Lamar begin this first season drawing from their vast connections from touring and performing music internationally. They seek conversations that offer insight into the political and cultural context in which people are making art, music, events or parties. We are especially interested in what subculture means in the digital age.
M. Lamar is a composer who works across opera, metal, performance, video, sculpture and installation to craft sprawling narratives of radical becomings. Lamar holds a BFA from The San Francisco Art Institute and attended the Yale School of Art, sculpture program, before dropping out to pursue music. Lamar’s work has been presented internationally, most recently at Old First Church San Francisco,The Meet Factory in Prague, The Metropolitan Museum of Art New York, National Sawdust New York, The Kitchen New York, MoMa PS1’s Greater New York, Merkin Hall among other venues.
Charles A. Looker has been active in underground music circles for the past decade as a composer, vocalist, guitarist and keyboardist. His music brings together diverse influences and styles including metal, pop, industrial, early music, experimental and classical composition. Born and based in New York City, he has received commissions from various ensembles, however most of his output has been with his own bands.
"Juvenile B" (anonymous guest)
"Juvenile B" is the pseudonym we’ve given our anonymous guest, a brilliant American musician who performs creative, non-ideological re-workings of the music used by certain extremist groups for recruitment/propaganda purposes. We talk with him about the scales and modes of various world musics, shock value, and ideology. NB: Neither our guest, nor anyone at Fluid Exchange supports extremism or terrorism of any kind.
Wolfe Barrett aka Drrty Pharms
Wolfe Barrett is the most controversial guest we have had on Fluid Exchange. Barrett is a pariah in the New York DIY scene and we wanted to get at just what it is that makes them so hated by so many people. CW many will be disturbed by much what is expressed in this episode. We at Fluid Exchange in no way support the actions expressed by Barrett.
Another special duo episode, this time with Looker interviewing co-host M. Lamar, a composer who works across opera, metal, performance, video, sculpture and installation to craft sprawling narratives of radical becomings. Lamar expounds on being an 8-year-old opera fanatic, individualism and politics in his work, and what it means to be “free”.
Queer Trash is a curatorial platform organized by Eames Armstrong, Michael Foster, and Richard Kamerman, as a framework for queer experimental performance practices across live disciplines. Looker and Lamar talk with QT about their relationship to the noise and improv scenes, what they look for in the artists they present, and various meanings of the word "queer".
Penny Arcade is a true New York legend, a prolific performance artist, actor, and playwright whose work has been a fixture of the downtown scene and the worldwide experimental arts scene since the early 80s, having already worked with Andy Warhol, and John Vaccaro's Playhouse of the Ridiculous, in the 60s and 70s. Looker and Lamar talk with Penny about the erasure of history, the value of apprenticeship, and Gay Shame.
A special duo episode where Lamar interviews co-host Charlie Looker, composer, vocalist, and multi-instrumentalist known for his work with the bands Psalm Zero, Extra Life, and ZS, as well as his chamber music. The two discuss John Zorn, their personal interpretations of the word "bourgeois", and why it's an exciting time to be making art as a white male.
Like bell hooks through a metal distortion pedal
This is a fantastic, risk-taking podcast where experimental and avant garde music intersects with radical voices. You should check it out!
My new favorite music podcast
This podcast is amazing. Both host are smart and funny.