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Steve talks to Josh Kaiser, former pastor turned deconstruction coach, about the different places people tend to end up at the end of their deconstruction / faith journeys (if there even is an end). Josh has a lot of wisdom and insight to this whole crazy process, so be sure to give this one your time.



Josh Kaiser’s TikTok: @theLocalHeretic
Origen
Jerome
Justin Matyr
Augustine
Mark Driscoll
Vivant Life Coaching
Brewery Vivant
Christian Mysticism
Josh’s video about mysticism
John Philip Newell
Cognitive Dissonance
Pete Enns
The Bible for Normal People
Richard Rohr
Film: “Ghandi”
Hymn: “O Sacred Head”
Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality
Annihilationism
Podcast: The Local Heretic Live
Thomas Merton
Book: “The Naked Now” by Richard Rohr
Book: “The Universal Christ”
Book:“Breathing Under Water: Spirituality and the Twelve Steps”
Books by John Philip Newell


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Special Guest: Josh Kaiser.
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We read “The Watchman Decree” (and even hear a disturbing recitation of it) and discuss the implications of Christian Nationalism in America. What do we do about it? Can we do anything? Is maybe just a little bit okay? (Spoiler: No. No, it’s not)



Following the Fire Facebook Group
Plymouth Congregational United Church of Christ
Free Dad Hugs shirt
Free Mom Hugs (official)
Christian Nationalism
Theocracy
Sharia Law
Book: “The Founding Myth” by Andrew Seidel
The Watchman Decree
Article: “The ‘Watchman Decree’ is a scary vision of Christian nationalism in action”
The Moral Majority
Samuel Perry
Book: “Do I Stay Christian?” By Brian McLaren
Parable of the Weeds in Matthew 13


Theme music by Daniel Wheat!



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The things we lift up and admire say a lot about us. Why, then, do so many evangelical Christians in America lift up the worst of us like Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and others. Has Christianity always been like this? Is there any way to redeem it?



Halloween was weirdly warm
Nathan can only handle “evangelical scary”
Steve has numbed himself to everything “scary”
Series: “Midnight Mass”
Film Genre: Elevated Horror
Film: “Midsommar”
Director: Martin McDonnaugh
Film: “In Bruges
Purgatory
Bruges, Belgium
www.letterboxd.com
6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon
Film: “Amelie”
Film: “Rubber”
Film: “The Social Dilemma”
Elon Musk buys Twitter
Tesla
SpaceX
Ford valuation
Tesla valuation
Attention Economy
Lauren Boebert
Mark Driscoll
Colt McCoy
Series: “Knight Rider”
Film: “Doc Hollywood”
Film: “Cars”
Weird Al Yankovic
Documentary: “God Forbid” about Jerry Falwell, Jr.
The Power Team
Height of CEO’s in America
Psychology Today
Cracker Barrel
Book: “The Divine Conspiracy” by Dallas Willard
The Beatitudes
Constantine
IXTHYS fish symbol
Book: “Do I Stay Christian?” By Dan McLaren
Jairus’ Daughter
Jesus healing the bleeding woman


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Embracing the F-Word: What is Feminism and how it can help us all be fully human


Special guest Alison Buxton joins us again to discuss that OTHER dirty f-word: Feminism. She tells us what it is, what it isn’t, and why it matters. The 2 dudes on this podcast learned a LOT from Alison, including how feminism is connected to everything in ways we didn’t expect.



Friends don't have to use shortened names
Ms.
Book Club Episode: “The Making of Biblical Womanhood” by Beth Allison Barr
Rush Limbaugh
“Feminazi”
Book: “The Poisonwood Bible” by Barbara Kingsolver
Jane Fonda Vietnam War protests
bell hooks
Bra burning
Women’s March 2017
Black Lives Matter
History of Feminism
Intersectionality
Dr. Kimberlé Crenshaw
19th Amendment
Jim Crow laws
MeToo movement
Tarana Burke
From “The Handmaid’s Tale” - Gilead
Clarence Thomas
Anita Hill
Book: “The Democratization of American Christianity” by Nathan O. Hatch
The Bechdel Test
The Bechdel Test Movie List
Nadia Boltz Weber
Article: “The Crisis of Men and Boys”by David Brooks in the New York Times
The Feeling Wheel
Kimberlé Crenshaw TED Talk
Book: “The Second Sex” by Simone de Beauvoir
Book: “The Woman’s Hour” by Elaine Weiss
Book: “The Krunk Feminist Collective” by Brittany Cooper
Book: “Feminism is For Everybody” by bell hooks
Book: “The Feminine Mystique” by Betty Friedan


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Nathan and Steve discuss the age-old conundrum of why Christians don’t show more of the Fruit of the Spirit than non-Christians. Spoiler-Alert! They remain frustrated.



It’s dark outside, thus Nathan is tired
Steve has been sleeping!
Everyone should go to therapy (if possible)
Steve talks about his neurological diseases in episode 28
Nathan needs more "crunch"
Sleep makes everything better

LGBTQ+ Listener update

Conversion Therapy is bad.

Documentary: “Pray Away” on Netflix

Book Club Episode 45: “Heavy Burdens” with author Bridget Eileen Rivera

Article: “The Four Sides”Christian perspectives of LGBTQ+ relationships as “sides”

Fruit of the Spirit: Galatians 5:22-23

Fishbone Diagram

Dunning-Kruger Effect



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Nathan and Steve go through the survey "The State of Theology" which was published recently and find that, not only are they both wildly heretical, but that the Ligonier group writes REALLY bad questions.



Steve and Nathan are both exhausted because they’re privileged
Nathan is overly concerned with the Trump Mar-a-Lago case
Pep Band is fun
Church is weird
“Do I Stay Christian” by Brian McLaren

The State of Theology Survey

Ligonier Ministries

R.C. Sproul

Reformed Theology

Martin Luther

Calvinism

Doctrine of “Original Sin”

Survey Data Explorer

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