Following Waters

Brett Mayer

Life on and off the water.

  1. Greg Felt: Water, Law, and the Other Side of Both Barrels

    5D AGO

    Greg Felt: Water, Law, and the Other Side of Both Barrels

    In this episode of Following Waters, host Brett Mayer sits down with Greg Felt for a wide-ranging conversation about rivers, water law, and what it really takes to create durable outcomes for water systems in the American West. Greg lives in Salida, Colorado, where he has been guiding and outfitting fly-fishing trips on the Arkansas River since 1985. His early connection to water came through recreation, fisheries, and the places he loved to spend time. Over the decades, that connection deepened into a career spent navigating the complex intersection of water law, management, ecology, agriculture, and human relationships. Greg has served fourteen years as a director of the Upper Arkansas Water Conservancy District, three years with the Southeastern Colorado Water Conservancy District, and was appointed in 2020 by Governor Jared Polis as the Arkansas River Basin representative to the Colorado Water Conservation Board. He currently serves as Chairman of the Chaffee County Board of Commissioners. In this conversation, Brett and Greg explore why understanding water systems where you live and paddle matters—not just for policymakers, but for anyone who cares about rivers and landscapes. In this episode, we explore:How Greg’s path from fishing guide to water manager unfolded over timeWhy non-consumptive uses of water—like recreation and environmental flows—cannot succeed in isolationThe importance of relationships, trust, and collaboration in water managementA plain-language look at the Colorado River Compact and the challenges it presents todayThe Shoshone in-stream flow water rights success story, and why it matters for fish, agriculture, recreation, and downstream usersWhat participation actually looks like for citizens, paddlers, and river advocatesWhy water systems are inherently complex—and why long-term engagement is essential This episode is a reminder that rivers don’t just flow through landscapes—they flow through legal systems, governance structures, communities, and competing needs. The outcomes we see on the water are shaped by decisions made far upstream in time, policy, and relationship-building. Whether you’re a paddler, angler, landowner, or simply someone who wants to better understand how water works where you live, this conversation offers insight, context, and perspective on the long work of following waters. Mentioned in this episode: JointheACA JointheACA JointheACA

    48 min
  2. Joe Cook: Freedom to Float

    FEB 10

    Joe Cook: Freedom to Float

    In this episode of Following Waters, we sit down with Joe Cook of Georgia River Network to unpack one of the most important — and least understood — water access debates in the Southeast: Freedom to Float in Georgia. Georgia is home to some of the most beautiful and biologically rich rivers in the country, yet paddlers, anglers, and river users often find themselves caught in conflict over where they are legally allowed to float, wade, or stop. At the heart of the issue is a murky mix of 19th-century law, modern recreation, private property concerns, and public trust — and a growing movement to clarify what access really looks like in a changing state. Joe helps us understand: How Georgia’s river access laws evolved — and why they’re so confusing todayWhat “navigable waters” means in Georgia (and why that definition matters)Where conflicts between landowners and paddlers most often ariseRecent legislative efforts and advocacy work around Freedom to FloatWhat’s at stake if access continues to be restricted or left unclearHow everyday river users can stay informed, engaged, and respectful This conversation isn’t about winning arguments — it’s about finding balance: honoring private property rights while protecting rivers as shared public resources that connect communities, ecosystems, and generations. Whether you paddle every weekend or have never thought about who “owns” a river, this episode offers a clear, thoughtful look at why access matters — and how it shapes our relationship with water. Find out more at Georgia Rivers Mentioned in this episode: JointheACA JointheACA

    42 min
  3. Bryan Kirk: Gas Up the Truck, Grab Some PB&Js, Go Kayaking

    FEB 3

    Bryan Kirk: Gas Up the Truck, Grab Some PB&Js, Go Kayaking

    Bryan Kirk — PB&Js and Big AirBryan Kirk’s story doesn’t start with podiums or product lines — it starts on the Delaware River, learning moves bit by bit near his grandmother’s farm, building a relationship with water that was patient, playful, and deeply rooted in family. Those early days were followed by long stretches on the Potomac River with his dad, where time together mattered as much as time in the boat. Support came in quiet but powerful ways: a first RPM from his mom, a Grand Canyon trip as a graduation gift from his dad — moments that didn’t just reward progress, but affirmed a path. At Virginia Tech, a series of fortuitous friendships helped Bryan lock in on the process, not outcomes, and sparked a fascination with freestyle moves that eventually felt less like a hobby and more like a calling. Faced with a “real job” option after college — including work at a gravel mine using his degree — Bryan made the harder, riskier choice: to major in kayaking, commit fully to progression, and see where the process would lead. That decision carried him from dedicated paddler to designer, team leader, and longtime force at Wave Sport, helping shape how freestyle kayaking looks, feels, and progresses. Throughout the conversation, Bryan reflects with deep gratitude — for family, for mentors, for friends, and for a journey built one move at a time. It’s a story about trust, patience, and choosing a life shaped by curiosity and care rather than certainty. This episode is about family, freestyle, progression, and the quiet courage it takes to keep showing up — gas up the truck, pack some PB&Js, and go kayaking. Instagram: bkayaker Mentioned in this episode: JointheACA JointheACA JointheACA

    44 min
  4. Bill Endicott: Fascination for the Process

    JAN 27

    Bill Endicott: Fascination for the Process

    In this episode of Following Waters, we sit down with Bill Endicott, one of the most influential figures in the history of American paddlesports. Bill’s impact on the sport is hard to overstate. As longtime head coach of the U.S. Canoe/Kayak Slalom Team, he guided American athletes to Olympic medals and international success, helping elevate U.S. slalom onto the world stage. But this conversation goes far beyond results and podiums. We explore Bill’s formula for success—a philosophy rooted not in outcome, but in deep fascination with the process. Bill shares how his coaching has always centered on helping athletes clearly see a path forward: seeing what’s possible, believing it’s attainable, and then committing fully to achieving it. Throughout the episode, Bill reflects on: What truly separates good athletes from great onesThe role of patience, repetition, and trust in long-term developmentHow belief is built—not demanded—in high-performance environmentsWhy sustained success comes from clarity of purpose, not pressure This is a conversation about leadership, vision, and the quiet discipline required to build excellence over time. Whether you’re an athlete, coach, educator, or someone interested in how people reach their potential, Bill’s insights offer rare perspective from decades at the highest level of sport. A must-listen episode with a monumental figure whose influence continues to shape paddling in the U.S. and beyond. Mentioned in this episode: JointheACA JointheACA JointheACA

    56 min
  5. Hattie Johnson: the Legal Right to Float in Colorado

    JAN 20

    Hattie Johnson: the Legal Right to Float in Colorado

    In this episode of Following Waters, host Brett Mayer speaks with Hattie Johnson of American Whitewater about her roots as a paddler and conservationist—and then dives deep into one of the most pressing river access issues in the country right now: the legal right to float in Colorado. Hattie shares how her personal relationship with rivers led her into conservation work, before walking listeners through the history of river access law in Colorado, how we arrived at the current moment, and why long-standing assumptions about paddlers’ rights are being challenged. Together, they unpack the evolving legal landscape, what recent conflicts mean for paddlers across the state, and why this issue extends far beyond Colorado’s borders. The conversation is both a primer and a call to awareness—helping paddlers understand the legal, historical, and political context of river access, while clarifying how individuals and communities can stay informed, engaged, and involved in protecting the ability to float rivers now and into the future. Topics include: Hattie’s pathway to rivers as both a paddler and conservationistThe history of the right to float in ColoradoWhy river access is being challenged nowWhat’s changed—and what’s at stake for paddlersHow American Whitewater is respondingPractical ways paddlers can stay engaged and support access efforts This is a timely and important conversation for anyone who cares about rivers, access, and the future of paddling in the United States. Mentioned in this episode: JointheACA

    44 min
  6. Risa Shimoda: Athlete, Icon, and the Great Connector

    12/23/2025

    Risa Shimoda: Athlete, Icon, and the Great Connector

    In this episode of Following Waters, host Brett Mayer speaks with Risa Shimoda about her path through whitewater paddling and into river conservation leadership. Risa shares how she learned to kayak as a young adult in the Ohio and gradually developed her skills, becoming part of the early wave of women pushing into more difficult whitewater. She reflects on landmark experiences including pioneering women’s descents in places like the Niagara Gorge, and how deeper engagement in the sport led her toward work in the paddlesports industry with Perception Kayaks. The conversation then traces her transition into conservation, including serving as the first Executive Director of American Whitewater, and her current role as Executive Director of the River Management Society. The episode focuses on how long-term involvement in paddling can evolve into leadership, advocacy, and stewardship. River Management Society Following WatersA podcast sponsored by the American Canoe Association featuring stories of education, stewardship, adventure, and competition that shape our collective connection to water. We create access through storytelling — offering insights and inspiration from the worlds shaped by rivers. One story at a time, we honor the people, places, and ideas that make paddling possible. About the Host, Brett Mayer Brett’s connection to water began long before he picked up a paddle — growing up outdoors, studying environmental science and policy, and developing a deep interest in the ways people form bonds with place. After a Division I soccer career, he transitioned fully into the natural world, finding in paddling a profound sense of connection and purpose. In 2003, Brett began kayaking, eventually becoming a sponsored paddler working with several outdoor brands, traveling widely, and competing in a range of races. He later became an ACA Level IV whitewater instructor, founded and operated a river school and adventure-travel company, and spent years teaching young people to paddle. His career is distinguished by craft, commitment, and the simple love of being on the water. Over time, the miles on the water shaped him, and they helped him understand the sport in a way few others do. His perspective deepened through personal tragedy while writing his graduate thesis, The Lived Experiences of Whitewater Kayakers, a four-year exploration of how paddlers form meaning, identity, and community on the water. Brett completed much of this work while grieving the loss of his closest friend on the Grand Canyon — a period that strengthened his dedication to safety, storytelling, and honoring the river community. Today, Brett serves as Policy Director for the American Canoe Association, where he works on national access, public lands protections, paddlesports safety, and grassroots engagement. He has spent more than a decade collaborating with the Outdoor Alliance, advocating on Capitol Hill, and working with paddlers across the country to protect the places we love. He recently co-authored Smart Start, a modern introduction to paddling designed to welcome new participants and broaden access to the sport. Across all these roles — educator, guide, athlete, researcher, writer, and policy leader — Brett has shaped a holistic career in paddlesports. Following Waters is his way of giving that back to the community: creating access through storytelling, honoring the people and ideas that sustain paddlesports, and opening a world of wonder for listeners the same way it was opened for...

    50 min

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Life on and off the water.