For Good Measure, by Ensemble for These Times (E4TT) Episode 193: Da Capo Conversations 2.0 with Dawn Norfleet and Rajna Swaminathan Looking for a way to listen to diverse creators and to support equity in the arts? Tune in weekly to For Good Measure! Today we revisit Dawn Norfleet’s and Rajna Swiminathan’s perspectives on growing up in a musical family. If you enjoyed today’s conversation and want to know more about Dawn Norfleet and Rajna Swaminathan, check them out here and here. Parts of this episode originally premiered in January 2022, click here, and September 2025, click here. This podcast is made possible by grants from the California Arts Council, SF Arts Commission, Grants for the Arts, and generous donors like you. Want to support For Good Measure and E4TT? Make a tax-deductible donation or sign up for our newsletter, and subscribe to the podcast! Intro music: “Trifolium” by Gabriela Ortiz, performed by E4TT (Ilana Blumberg, violin; Abigail Monroe, cello; Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Below the Surface: Music by Women Composers,” January 29, 2022 Outro music: “Lake Turkana” by Marcus Norris, performed by E4TT (Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Alchemy,” October 15, 2021 Transcription courtesy of Otter.ai. Buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1903729/episodes/18608343 Co-Producer, Host, and E4TT co-founder: Nanette McGuinness Co-Producer and Audio Engineer: Stephanie M. Neumann Podcast Cover Art: Brennan Stokes Interns: Renata Volchinskaya, Sam Mason, Christy Xu Support the show Visit E4TT.org and find us on social media! Instagram: @e4tt Twitter: @e4ttimes Facebook: @EnsembleforTheseTimes Listen/subscribe on Soundcloud, Spotify, and YouTube.