Forged For Growth

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Every business has a story behind it—and this show is all about getting it straight from the source. We interview business owners and leaders to talk through what they’ve learned, what they’ve built, and what they’d do differently if they had to do it all again. Expect real conversations, real experience, and takeaways you can actually use.

  1. 8h ago

    Raising Venture Debt and Growth Capital with James Turner

    Episode Summary How 5th Line helps growing companies raise debt capital and understand the lender market. Brian talks with James Turner about his non-traditional career path from starting and selling a small e-commerce business in college to working with early-stage companies and eventually building 5th Line. James explains how the firm helps technology, consumer goods, manufacturing, and professional services companies raise debt, why venture lending is different from traditional cash flow or asset-based lending, and how lenders evaluate enterprise value, downside protection, and repayment risk. They also discuss how AI is affecting software companies, why referrals have become 5th Line’s biggest growth channel, how lender relationships shape the process, and what companies should expect when exploring a debt raise. Key TakeawaysJames started in finance but moved away from the Wall Street path after realizing he preferred helping companies build businesses rather than watching stock tickers. 5th Line’s debt advisory work typically supports companies seeking roughly $2 million to $100 million, with many raises falling between $4 million and $40 million. Venture debt and private credit lenders often evaluate companies based on enterprise value, investor support, growth, unit economics, and downside scenarios rather than traditional collateral or cash flow. The lending market shifted after the inflated 2020 and 2021 valuation period, with lenders becoming more careful about whether prior valuations still make sense. AI risk is now part of lender conversations, especially for software companies whose products could be replicated or replaced by tools like Claude. 5th Line’s growth has shifted from direct outbound marketing to referrals, lender relationships, service provider referrals, and partnerships with boutique investment banks. A typical first conversation focuses on the company’s revenue, capital needs, reason for raising, and whether the desired amount is realistic for the business profile. TimelineEarly00:00:00 James’s background and non-traditional career path00:01:00 Working with early-stage, post-product, pre-revenue companies00:02:00 Discovering venture debt and beginning to work with companies raising capital00:03:00 How 5th Line evolved from its early work into today’s debt advisory model00:04:00 What a company might look like when raising a $40 million debt facility Middle00:05:00 How lenders evaluate enterprise value instead of traditional assets or cash flow00:06:00 Loan-to-value, downside scenarios, and making sure there is enough value to repay lenders00:08:00 Why technology lending is less theoretical than it may appear00:09:00 How lenders are thinking about AI risk and software companies00:10:00 Why enterprise software may be harder to replace than smaller SMB-focused tools00:11:00 Replacing parts of HubSpot internally and how AI changes build-versus-buy decisions00:14:00 Matching companies with the right lenders and navigating market timing Late00:15:00 Private credit liquidity, credit committee dynamics, and lender selectivity00:16:00 Why companies are raising capital more intentionally and efficiently00:17:00 Companies seeking facilities before they urgently need the money00:18:00 5th Line’s shift from LinkedIn and email outreach to referrals00:19:00 Why cold email stopped producing deals and partnerships became more valuable00:20:00 Building a reputation without starting from an established banking network00:21:00 Repeat business through CFOs, CEOs, partners, and channel relationships00:23:00 What the first call with 5th Line usually looks like00:25:00 Previewing deals with lenders before launching a full process00:26:00 Typical timeline from initial fit to term sheets, legal documentation, and closing00:27:00 Where listeners can connect with James Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesturner-5thlineCompany:

  2. 5d ago

    AI Strategy, Data Transformation, and Scaling Leadership with Michelle Tinsley

    Episode SummaryHow Sciata helps larger organizations modernize systems, prepare data, and deploy AI in ways that support real business strategy. Brian talks with Michelle Tinsley about her 26 years at Intel across finance, product, IoT, and sales, her move into startup leadership, and her transition into private equity-backed leadership as CEO of Sciata. Michelle explains how Sciata works with companies in financial services, healthcare, and specialty retail, focusing on AI deployments, data work, and systems implementation. They also discuss AI governance, why companies need guardrails before rolling tools out broadly, how Michelle stepped into an established CEO role, and what founders should think about when preparing their companies for succession or eventual sale. Key TakeawaysSciata focuses on digital transformation for larger companies, especially in financial services, healthcare, and specialty retail. AI implementation should start with business strategy, not the technology itself. Data governance, permissions, tagging, and structure are critical before companies roll out tools like Copilot or agentic AI. AI can create major risk when it has too much access or unclear guardrails, especially inside larger organizations. When stepping into an established CEO role, Michelle prioritized trust-building, leadership conversations, shared strategy, and clear ownership. Private equity-backed leadership often requires matching the company’s next phase with the right CEO skill set. Founder-led companies become more valuable when leadership, customer relationships, and operations are not dependent on one person. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Michelle’s background and 26-year career at Intel00:01:00 Moving from finance into IoT product work, sales, and startup leadership00:02:00 Building startup experience as CEO, co-founder, COO, and president00:03:00 What Sciata does and the industries it serves00:04:00 Sciata’s work in AI deployment, data transformation, and systems implementation Middle00:05:00 Starting AI conversations with business strategy and customer differentiation00:06:00 AI governance, access controls, and why permissions matter00:07:00 How Copilot follows SharePoint permissions and why rollout needs planning00:08:00 Creating reusable prompts, skills, and guardrails for teams00:09:00 Why even advanced AI testing can reveal unexpected risks00:10:00 Michelle’s transition into Sciata as CEO and private equity-backed leader Late00:11:00 Building trust with the leadership team and setting a new company vision00:12:00 Using a light EOS-style operating rhythm to track strategy, goals, and indicators00:13:00 Why ownership creates commitment instead of mere compliance00:14:00 Matching the CEO role to the company’s next stage of growth00:16:00 Succession planning and preparing founders to step back over time00:18:00 Why founder dependence can reduce company value00:20:00 What private equity buyers look for and why founder readiness matters00:22:00 Transitioning key relationships thoughtfully instead of dumping accounts on successors00:24:00 Building multiple relationships inside client organizations00:26:00 Sciata’s AI blueprint offering and where listeners can connect with Michelle Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-tinsley/Company: http://www.sciata.com

  3. Aug 20

    Growing an MSP through Relationships and Focus with Matt Ferguson

    Episode SummaryHow Geeks for Business helps small and mid-sized organizations get responsive, relationship-driven IT support. Brian talks with Matt Ferguson about building his first computer in high school, starting with residential PC repair, studying computer science, and eventually moving from break-fix work into managed IT for businesses. Matt explains why he rebranded from Geek House Calls to Geeks for Business, how the pandemic shaped the transition, and why recurring business IT work offers more stability than residential repair. They also discuss Microsoft 365 support, testing updates before rollout, why many clients leave large national IT providers, and how internal processes, documentation, automation, and client relationships matter more than constantly changing tech stacks. Key TakeawaysIT can function like a skilled trade, where certifications, hands-on experience, and constant reskilling often matter more than theory alone. Residential break-fix work can be unpredictable, with smaller tickets, more income volatility, and less recurring revenue than business-focused managed IT. Rebranding from Geek House Calls to Geeks for Business helped Matt fully commit to serving businesses instead of splitting focus between residential and commercial work. Many small organizations reach out after a security or data loss event, or when they become unhappy with a larger outsourced IT provider. Smaller MSPs can compete by being more responsive, relationship-driven, and familiar with each client’s business. Face time still matters because clients want to know who is supporting them and trust that their provider understands how their business is changing. Strong internal documentation, workflows, and automation can be more valuable than chasing every new tool or tech stack trend. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Matt’s background, building his first computer in high school, and getting into tech00:01:00 Starting PC repair after high school while working at TigerDirect and going to school00:02:00 Studying computer science, struggling with advanced math, and learning where theory fits00:03:00 How AI has made math more relevant for some areas of computer science00:04:00 Why IT is more like a skilled trade, and why “turn it off and back on again” still works Middle00:05:00 Moving from side work into full-time self-employment00:06:00 Why residential break-fix work was unstable as a primary business model00:08:00 Going full-time in 2019 and navigating the disruption of 202000:09:00 Transitioning away from residential clients and rebranding to Geeks for Business00:10:00 Letting go of legacy residential work and focusing on better-fit business clients00:12:00 Supporting Microsoft 365 and dealing with breaking changes from major platforms Late00:13:00 Testing Microsoft updates before rolling them out to clients00:14:00 Why clients contact Geeks for Business: security events, data loss, and dissatisfaction with current IT providers00:15:00 How large national IT providers can leave smaller clients feeling invisible00:16:00 Competing through responsiveness, local attention, and stronger relationships00:17:00 Why every account deserves a high-touch relationship00:18:00 Growing from one person to a five-person team and needing additional hires00:19:00 Why internal processes, documentation, workflows, and automation matter more than tool-chasing00:20:00 Where listeners can connect with Matt and learn more about Geeks for Business Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattferguson3/ Company: http://www.geeksforbusiness.net/

  4. Aug 18

    Translating Cybersecurity for Business Leaders with Michael Faas

    Episode SummaryHow Echo Cyber helps growing companies connect business goals with practical cybersecurity leadership. Brian talks with Michael Faas about his path from studying computer programming, pivoting away from computer science after calculus, and turning a part-time IT job into a 25-year cybersecurity career. Michael explains why his work often centers on translating between technical teams and executives, how businesses can balance security with convenience, and why even small companies are big enough to be targeted. They also discuss SOC 2, cyber insurance, project prioritization, vulnerability risk, AI security concerns, and why founder-led companies often need CTO-level thinking before they need a full-time CTO. Key TakeawaysCybersecurity leadership often depends on translation: helping executives and technical teams understand each other and align security work with business goals. Security and convenience exist in tension, and the goal is to reduce risk without preventing the business from operating. Small and mid-sized companies are still targets because attackers often use automated tools to find easy opportunities rather than hand-selecting every victim. Vulnerability prioritization should consider both severity and likelihood, not just the scariest score on a scanner report. Many companies reach out for help when customers ask for SOC 2 compliance, cyber insurance costs rise, or leadership realizes they need security guidance but does not know where to start. A fractional CTO or cybersecurity advisor can help founder-led companies prioritize projects, unclog stalled initiatives, and decide what to start, pause, or kill. AI can be powerful, but companies need to understand what AI systems can access, how they are governed, and whether the output actually improves the business process. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Michael’s introduction, name pronunciation, and early path into IT00:01:00 Starting in computer programming, switching to sports management, and turning IT into a career00:02:00 College, career paths, and why practical ability matters as much as formal education00:03:00 Calculus as a roadblock and the difference between theoretical and practical learning00:05:00 Michael’s 25-year career in IT, enterprise security, and translating between technical teams and executives Middle00:07:00 Bridging the gap between IT teams, leadership, and day-to-day business needs00:08:00 Balancing security with convenience so the business can still operate00:09:00 How excessive controls can push people to work around security00:10:00 Why small businesses are still big enough to be hacked00:11:00 Moving companies away from being the lowest-hanging fruit00:12:00 Prioritizing vulnerabilities by likelihood as well as severity Late00:14:00 Why companies usually call Michael: SOC 2, cyber insurance, and unclear security needs00:15:00 Finding stalled projects and prioritizing the work that reduces the most risk00:17:00 Providing CTO-level guidance without requiring a full-time CTO hire00:18:00 When AI projects should be delayed, refined, or stopped00:19:00 AI access, data governance, secure permissions, and prompt injection risks00:22:00 Learning from failed AI experiments and evaluating whether automation is worth it00:23:00 Michael’s sweet spot with founder-led companies from roughly $2.5 million to $25 million in revenue, and 15 to 200 employees.00:24:00 Helping companies decide when they actually need a full-time CTO00:25:00 Where listeners can connect with Michael and take the Echo Cyber assessment Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mfaas Company: https://echocyber.io Echo Cyber Assessment: https://echocyber.io/assessment

  5. Aug 7

    Cleaning Up Salesforce Architecture and Storage with Sean Fielding

    Episode SummaryHow Sproket Logic helps companies improve Salesforce architecture, performance, data storage, and long-term usability. Brian talks with Sean Fielding about his path from joining a Salesforce practice in 2010 as employee number two, helping grow it to more than 100 employees, building products, exiting in 2022, and then launching Sproket Logic in earnest. Sean explains why Salesforce is “easy until it’s hard,” how implementations drift over time, and why architecture, adoption, and guardrails matter before systems become messy. They also discuss Email Scrubber, the cost of unused Salesforce storage, why user adoption has to start early, and how consultants can offer honest recommendations without shaming internal teams. Key TakeawaysSalesforce implementations often start simple, but without architecture, guardrails, and periodic audits, they can drift as companies grow and change. Sproket Logic focuses heavily on Salesforce consulting, including architecture, audits, performance improvement, development, and product work. Email Scrubber helps companies identify Salesforce data storage issues and reclaim storage that may otherwise become expensive over time. Adoption problems often begin before launch when end users are not included in the planning and implementation process. Bad data can come from well-intentioned forms, defaults, shortcuts, and workflows that do not match how people actually work. Consultants are most effective when they present risks and options clearly instead of attacking prior decisions or embarrassing internal teams. Long-term Salesforce work depends on trust, relationships, and understanding why a system became the way it is before recommending changes. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Sean’s background and introduction to Salesforce around 201000:01:00 Growing a Salesforce practice to 100-plus employees and exiting in 202200:02:00 Starting Sproket Logic after realizing a larger company environment was not the right fit00:03:00 How sales and client needs shifted before, during, and after the pandemic00:04:00 Sproket Logic’s consulting focus and Salesforce product development Middle00:05:00 Why Salesforce can become messy when implementations lack architecture and guardrails00:06:00 How software systems drift as businesses grow, change, and add users00:07:00 Why companies should invest in structure after spending heavily on software00:08:00 The importance of involving actual users before implementation decisions are finalized00:09:00 Why adoption has to begin early instead of being forced after launch00:10:00 Finding hidden user workflows that leadership may not know exist00:12:00 How small process decisions can turn into unreliable data Late00:15:00 What Sean typically finds during Salesforce audits and architecture reviews00:16:00 Salesforce data storage limits and why storage overages can become expensive00:17:00 Cleaning up outdated records, old emails, unused files, and unnecessary clutter00:18:00 How Salesforce storage costs can add up and why runway matters00:20:00 Breaking through business apathy around systems that are expensive but tolerated00:21:00 Presenting recommendations without damaging pride or internal relationships00:23:00 Why context matters before judging old systems or prior implementation decisions00:25:00 Where listeners can connect with Sean and learn more about Sproket Logic Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-fielding-500818b/ Company: https://sproketlogic.com/

  6. Jul 30

    Building Reliable Print Software Through Perseverance with Gil Newsom

    Episode SummaryHow RocketPrint Software grew from a business failure into a long-running storefront and quoting platform for the commercial printing industry. Brian talks with Gil Newsom about launching the company in the early days of online selling, building software around real customer needs, and staying focused on ease of use for printers who need practical tools rather than programmer-oriented complexity. Gil explains how RocketPrint evolved through customer requests, why not every feature idea should be accepted, and how strong support and reliability have helped the company retain customers for years. They also discuss entrepreneurship, perseverance, AI-driven competition, making software sticky, and why building a product is only half the challenge. Key TakeawaysA past business failure can become the stepping stone to a stronger opportunity when entrepreneurs stay open to what comes next. RocketPrint Software grew by listening to printers, adding useful features, and keeping the product simple enough for non-programmers to use. Customer feature requests can reveal valuable market needs, but software companies still need discipline to avoid bloating the product. Long-term success in software depends on more than building a good tool; it also requires support, reliability, relationships, and perseverance. AI may make it easier for people to build new software quickly, but selling, supporting, and maintaining that software is still a major challenge. Making software sticky means helping customers use it to grow their own businesses and deepen their dependence on the platform. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Gil’s background in software for commercial printing and multi-location print collateral management00:01:00 How a previous business failure led to the opportunity that became RocketPrint Software00:02:00 Launching the software, gaining early customers, and growing through real printer needs00:03:00 Gil’s role as the idea person and entrepreneur behind the product00:04:00 Why ideas are easy, but implementation and perseverance create real value Middle00:05:00 Moving from failure into a new opportunity with the printing industry00:06:00 Avoiding software bloat while still adding features customers need00:08:00 Using a strategy to implement new features without overwhelming users00:09:00 How to say no to bad feature ideas while still encouraging useful feedback00:11:00 Thinking beyond your own assumptions and learning from competitors without copying everything00:13:00 Rocket Quotes, quoting complex print jobs, and building flexible plug-and-play functionality Late00:14:00 Growing in the early internet era through calls, email outreach, and website traffic00:15:00 Knowing early that the software had traction because it helped generate real revenue00:16:00 Maintaining growth as competitors phase out or stop supporting customers well00:17:00 Why support, reliability, and direct customer access still matter00:18:00 AI, new software competition, and why building the tool is only part of the challenge00:20:00 Making software sticky by helping printers expand customer storefronts00:21:00 Gil’s future education-focused project in North Carolina00:22:00 Where listeners can connect with Gil and learn more about RocketPrint Software Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilnewsom/Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rocketprint-software/

  7. Jul 21

    Agile Coaching, Scrum Mastery, and Better Delivery with Liza Gonzalez

    Episode SummaryHow Vantage Point Collective helps teams improve delivery, reduce process drift, and use agile tools with more intention. Brian talks with Liza Gonzalez about her career path from radio sales administration to graphic design, internal communications, Scrum mastery, agile coaching, and becoming a certified ProKanban trainer. Liza explains what Scrum Masters actually do, why the role matters even for high-performing teams, and how agile coaches can help organizations identify blockers, protect focus, and improve collaboration. They also discuss why leaders can unintentionally disrupt delivery, how to gather input from the people doing the work, and how Kanban flow metrics can make timelines more predictable. Key TakeawaysScrum Masters serve as facilitators, protectors, and information radiators for teams, helping them stay focused on goals and remove blockers. Agile frameworks work best when supported by guardrails, coaching, and consistent reinforcement; without that, old habits can creep back in. Combining a Scrum Master role with coding, product ownership, or other responsibilities can reduce focus and weaken the return on investment. Effective agile coaching starts by listening to leadership, product owners, and the people doing the work so the full picture is understood. Leaders may support agile in theory but still disrupt the process when urgent new priorities are inserted without considering the impact. Product owners need support and empowerment to balance stakeholder requests against what the product and end users actually need. Kanban flow metrics such as cycle time, throughput, work in progress, and aging work in progress can help teams forecast delivery using real historical data. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Liza’s background and early career in radio sales administration00:01:00 Moving into graphic design, marketing, and internal communications at Nielsen00:02:00 Working with technology teams and entering agile transformation00:03:00 Discovering Scrum mastery and the servant-leader mindset00:05:00 Starting Vantage Point Collective to train, coach, guide, and mentor teams Middle00:06:00 What Scrum is and how it fits under the broader agile mindset00:07:00 How Scrum Masters facilitate teams, remove blockers, and communicate with stakeholders00:08:00 Why Scrum Masters remain valuable even for mature or high-performing teams00:09:00 Comparing agile support to business operating systems and process guardrails00:11:00 Why assigning Scrum Masters too many technical or product responsibilities can backfire00:12:00 Supporting clients through Scrum mastery, training, coaching, and Jira workflow design Late00:13:00 Liza’s process for assessing teams without immediately overturning everything00:15:00 Helping leaders understand how their involvement can affect team focus and delivery00:17:00 Building buy-in by listening to the people closest to the work00:18:00 Improving failed production releases through team input and end-to-end testing conversations00:20:00 Empowering product owners to evaluate stakeholder requests and protect the product00:22:00 Using Kanban flow metrics and Monte Carlo forecasting to make timelines less ambiguous00:24:00 What Liza is excited about next and where listeners can connect with her Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liza-gonzalez-708b706b Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vantage-point-collective/about/

  8. Jul 10

    AI Offensive Security and Making Cybersecurity Less Scary with Mark Whitehead

    Episode SummaryHow NDAY Security is using AI to transform offensive security, automate testing, and make cybersecurity more accessible to businesses outside the industry echo chamber. Brian talks with Mark Whitehead about his path from video game cybersecurity to government contracting, Big Four consulting, offensive security leadership, and eventually founding NDAY Security. Mark explains how AI has changed what is possible for small teams, why offensive security is moving toward faster and more scalable testing, and how startups can now build powerful products without the same headcount or capital requirements as before. They also discuss why cybersecurity companies need to simplify their messaging, how MSPs and MSSPs can deliver enterprise-grade results through partners, and why relationships still matter in a crowded technical market. Key TakeawaysAI is changing offensive security by making testing faster, more scalable, and more efficient than traditional manual-only approaches. Many cybersecurity incidents are opportunistic, with bots scanning thousands of websites and systems for known weaknesses. Small teams can now build and operate with far more leverage because AI can automate back-office work, coding support, marketing workflows, and testing processes. Experience still matters when using AI well because subject matter expertise helps users guide the tools, spot issues, and push past weak answers. Cybersecurity messaging often stays trapped inside an industry echo chamber, even though hospitals, dental offices, small businesses, and other mainstream organizations need the protection. NDAY Security is built around partners and resellers, aiming to help MSPs and MSSPs deliver enterprise-grade offensive security at a more accessible price point. In a crowded market, buyers may not understand the technical differences between vendors, so trust, relationships, and clear communication become major differentiators. TimelineEarly00:00:00 Mark’s background in Miami, cybersecurity, and getting started in video game security00:01:00 Moving through government contracting, Big Four consulting, offensive security, and venture-backed companies00:02:00 Founding NDAY Security and focusing on AI-driven offensive security00:03:00 Why many attacks are opportunistic and driven by bots scanning for known vulnerabilities00:04:00 How AI agents are changing what is possible in offensive security Middle00:05:00 Using AI effectively, avoiding hallucinations, and automating startup operations00:06:00 Why experienced entrepreneurs can use AI to reduce back-office workload00:07:00 How technical experience helps users get better results from AI tools00:08:00 Why technology is no longer the biggest barrier for many startups00:10:00 Using AI to improve marketing lists, campaigns, and cost efficiency00:11:00 Lowering cost per click and using AI to compete against larger organizations00:13:00 Replacing bloated platforms with tailored AI-enabled workflows Late00:15:00 Making cybersecurity less scary and more relatable for mainstream businesses00:16:00 Why the cybersecurity industry often markets to itself instead of real buyers00:18:00 Helping businesses understand their risk before something goes wrong00:19:00 Building NDAY Security for partners, resellers, MSPs, and MSSPs00:21:00 Why relationship, trust, and founder access still matter in technical sales00:23:00 Choosing not to follow the traditional VC path and scaling with a lean team00:24:00 What Mark is excited about as AI reshapes offensive security00:26:00 Where listeners can connect with Mark and learn more about NDAY Security Links and Resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-whitehead-9997171/Company: https://ndaysecurity.com/

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Every business has a story behind it—and this show is all about getting it straight from the source. We interview business owners and leaders to talk through what they’ve learned, what they’ve built, and what they’d do differently if they had to do it all again. Expect real conversations, real experience, and takeaways you can actually use.