Form & Structure

Patrick Murck, Founder & CEO of Surus
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Welcome to Form & Structure, a podcast exploring the intersection of policy, technology, and financial innovation. Hosted by Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, this series delves into the most pressing issues shaping the future of digital finance. Form & Structure is presented by Surus, an institutional-grade, regulated asset management and custody platform that enables builders and investors to engage in the on-chain economy.

  1. JAN 29

    How AI and RegTech Are Transforming Financial Regulation with Jo Ann Barefoot

    Financial regulation is failing to keep pace with innovation and the results are catastrophic. The UN estimates that less than 1% of financial crime gets caught globally, despite banks spending tens of billions annually on AML compliance. In this episode, Surus CEO Patrick Murck sits down with Jo Ann Barefoot, former Deputy Comptroller of the Currency and CEO of the Alliance for Innovative Regulation, to explore why outdated regulatory technology is the bottleneck preventing both effective crime detection and financial innovation. Featuring Jo Ann Barefoot's decades of experience helping regulators adapt to technological change, from FinTech waves to crypto to AI transformation. Relevant for: Crypto builders, DeFi teams, compliance professionals, RegTech innovators, stablecoin issuers, tokenized asset platforms, financial services leaders, policy experts.

    39 min

  2. 12/03/2025

    Regulate Who Controls the Money, Not 'Decentralization'

    U.S. policymakers continue to wrestle with how to regulate decentralized finance, stablecoins, and the broader crypto ecosystem. But as our guests Rebecca Rettig and Mike Mosier argue, the central challenge has never been "decentralization." Instead, the real regulatory question is who has independent control over other people's value.

    43 min

  3. 11/10/2025

    Don't F** It Up: Why Congress Has One Shot at Crypto Market Structure

    In this monthly policy roundtable, Patrick Murck is joined by Greg Xethalis (General Counsel, Multicoin Capital) and Karen Ubell (Partner, Goodwin) to break down the urgent push for crypto market structure legislation before midterms. They discuss Mike Selig's nomination to chair the CFTC and what his crypto expertise means for the agency's expansion into spot markets. They examine whether Congress should rush legislation or take time to get it right, what the Binance listing terms leak reveals about US regulatory arbitrage, and why moving from 54 state licenses to federal oversight matters for competitiveness.

    46 min

  4. 10/10/2025

    Surus Partners with Protocol Labs to Launch PL Alignment Asset

    Protocol Labs' Juan Benet (Founder & CEO) and Diana Stern (Deputy General Counsel) join Patrick Murck on this week's episode. They discuss launching the PL 'alignment asset' token as a novel way to share incentives across Protocol Labs' network of over 700 companies.

    1h 12m

  5. 09/26/2025

    Making Bitcoin Productive: The $7 Billion Validation

    Patrick Murck hosts David Tse (Co-Founder of Babylon Labs co-founder and Stanford professor) dive into how Babylon attracted nearly $7 billion in Bitcoin staking and explore their new trustless Bitcoin vaults that activate dormant Bitcoin assets for productive use in DeFi.

    50 min

  6. 09/17/2025

    Crypto Lending and the UCC's New Digital Asset Rules

    Patrick Murck and Professor Carla Reyes (SMU Law) discuss how the 2022 UCC amendments created "controllable electronic records" to finally align commercial law with crypto lending practices. They explore whether Bitcoin's UTXO system makes security interests practically impossible to enforce, why Florida's attempt to ban CBDCs through state law doesn't actually work, and how the GENIUS Act might prevent stablecoin issuers from paying bankruptcy costs.

    54 min

  7. 08/20/2025

    Bitcoin's New Epoch with Pete Rizzo

    In this episode of Form & Structure, Patrick Murck sits down with Pete Rizzo, The Bitcoin Historian and host of the Supply Shock podcast, for a wide-ranging conversation about Bitcoin's evolution and what Pete calls its "new epoch.".

    46 min

  8. 08/13/2025

    The Tornado Cash Fallout, Privacy Tech and Bitcoin's Fee Market

    In our Monthly Bitcoin Series episode of Form & Structure, Patrick Murck sits down with Neha Narula (Director, MIT Digital Currency Initiative) and Ethan Heilman (Research Engineer, Cloudflare) to discuss Roman Storm verdict's impact on privacy tech, Bitcoins fee market breakdown, and the "one sat per vbyte" policy debate.

    54 min
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Welcome to Form & Structure, a podcast exploring the intersection of policy, technology, and financial innovation. Hosted by Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, this series delves into the most pressing issues shaping the future of digital finance. Form & Structure is presented by Surus, an institutional-grade, regulated asset management and custody platform that enables builders and investors to engage in the on-chain economy.

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  • Creator
    Patrick Murck, Founder & CEO of Surus
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    34
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2024
  • Show Website
    Form & Structure