Frameworks for Growth

Vanta

Frameworks for Growth is a Vanta series where CEO and Co-founder Christina Cacioppo sits down with founders, leaders, and investors from the world’s most innovative companies. In each episode, Christina and our guests explore the strategies, challenges, and key decisions that have shaped their journeys, offering actionable insights and proven frameworks to help your business grow with confidence.

Episodes

  1. 07/16/2025

    Bret Taylor of Sierra: How to sell to Enterprise Companies as an AI Startup | Frameworks for Growth

    In this episode of Frameworks for Growth, Vanta CEO Christina Cacioppo sits down with Bret Taylor, Co-founder of Sierra, to discuss the evolution of technology, from the early days of cloud at Salesforce, to enterprise-ready AI companies—plus cultural lessons from companies like Google and Facebook, and what it takes to launch successful AI startups today. Bret shares insights from decades at the forefront of tech innovation—including his time as co-CEO of Salesforce and CTO of Facebook—offering advice for founders navigating today’s market and tomorrow’s challenges. 🔑 Topics covered (timestamps):  00:11 - Introduction 01:00 - Building websites and the birth of a career 02:28 - Yahoo Directory and the shift to AI-driven experiences 03:40 - What Sierra does and how it powers brands with AI agents 04:34 - Comparing AI evolution to past tech waves 05:45 - Frameworks still missing for building AI agents 06:30 - Democratizing access to AI tools for all companies 07:36 - Competitive moats in the AI market 08:54 - AI value chain: from models to airport-priced lattes 11:00 - Innovation pace vs. shipping outcomes 13:23 - Business models built around outcomes, not effort 15:53 - Customer alignment and predictable pricing at Sierra 17:40 - What people may get wrong about AI and productivity 19:00 - Economic realities: intelligence isn't the only bottleneck 20:25 - The early days of Google Maps and why it went viral 23:00 - Integrating content into Maps—and being name-dropped on SNL 24:19 - What makes a great board member (and a cohesive board) 26:49 - Founders and board dynamics: trust, motivations, and self-awareness 28:10 - Operator vs. investor board members 30:03 - Leadership styles from Benioff, Zuckerberg, Marissa Mayer, and more 32:22 - Customer obsession at Sierra and real accountability 34:59 - How Sierra plans for rapid shifts in AI tech 37:23 - Why model maintenance is a massive challenge 38:45 - Bret’s worst tech predictions (no self-driving, too much tablet optimism) 41:00 - There’s no one-size-fits-all leadership style 43:41 - The startup machine that produces happy customers 45:11 - Founder focus: how to know where to spend your time 47:12 - Founding Sierra during the ChatGPT boom 49:00 - Writing a choose-your-own-adventure app for his daughter 50:54 - Why Sierra started with enterprise customers 53:15 - How AI changes the economics of customer support 54:07 - Frameworks for go-to-market: PLG, dev-first, direct sales 58:30 - Selling software is a spreadsheet, not just a steak dinner 59:08 - Enterprise-first strategy and choosing design partners 01:02:18 - What makes a good design partner 01:02:20 - Lightning round: Ben Franklin, VR skepticism, and Clubhouse fizzle 01:04:45 - Wrap-up and closing thoughts

    1h 5m
  2. 06/30/2025

    Amjad Masad of Replit: 10xing in a Year and Building the Future of Code | Frameworks for Growth

    In this episode of Frameworks for Growth, Vanta CEO Christina Cacioppo talks with Amjad Masad, Founder and CEO of Replit, about how persistent ideas evolve into breakout products and how founders can stay scrappy while scaling. Amjad breaks down how Replit handled early competition, carved out space as one of the first AI-native dev platforms, and sustained momentum in a crowded, fast-moving market. 🔑 Topics covered: 00:20 - Introduction 00:41 - Software development trends Amjad is excited about 02:28 - What is Replit 03:21 - How long Amjad has been working on Replit 04:53 - How did Amjad start learning Javascript 06:34 - Why the web felt like the future 08:47 - Why AI feels like the future 12:15 - When models will solve coding 14:24 - How Amjad practices what he does 16:05 - Have the things that cause pain changed 17:22 - How Replit compounded 19:22 - Why Amjad learned SEO 20:12 - The day Replit went viral 24:18 - Navigating skepticism 29:18 - Hiring high agency individuals 35:25 - Replit's innovations being coped by giants 42:36 - Why Amjad wrote an AI manifesto 49:36 - Replit's approach to marketing 52:44 - Amjad's advice for X/Twitter 55:03 - Amjad's thoughts on building community 56:34 - Why powerlifting is similar to building a startup 57:25 - Reading philosophy and influences on AI 1:00:07 - What Amjad would be doing if not working on technology 1:01:43 - Why Amjad chose Foster City 1:03:34 - How Amjad would spend a day with a founder in Foster City 1:04:51 - Unconventional advice for founders 1:08:00 - What Amjad is reading 1:09:34 - The first program Amjad ever wrote 1:09:54 - Amjad's thoughts on layoffs 1:11:26 - Choosing between making Replit bespoke or general

    1h 13m
  3. 06/16/2025

    Building the Anthropic Team: Daniela Amodei on Hiring 10x AI Engineers | Frameworks for Growth

    In this episode of Frameworks for Growth, Vanta CEO Christina Cacioppo sits down with Daniela Amodei, President and Co-founder of Anthropic, to discuss what it takes to build both a mission-driven company and a cutting-edge AI research lab. They explore how Daniela approaches hiring with intention, how to scale responsibly in the age of AI, and what it means to build trust while working on transformative technologies like Claude. 🔑 Topics covered: 00:17 - Introduction 00:45 - Anthropic as an AI safety and research company 02:22 - Balance technical research and commercializing 04:21 - Public benefit corporations (PBCs) 05:50 - Hiring lessons from Anthropic and OpenAI 08:03 - Articulating company values 09:33 - Aligning new employees on company values 12:39 - Non-obvious traits when hiring 15:25 - Balancing thoughtfulness and simplicity with engineering hires 18:50 - Common misconceptions about the future of AI 20:05 - Enterprises are bullish on AI 21:29 - What will be true about AI in 2035 22:57 - Co-founding a company with your sibling 24:08 - A moment where you realized the future is here 25:15 - What Daniela’s reading 25:54 - Interest in East African government and advising them on AI 27:29 - Incorporating as a PBC was the right move 28:25 - Deciding on how to structure their hardware 🚀 To learn more about Vanta helps startups scale, visit us at: vanta.com/startups

    29 min
  4. 05/21/2025

    Garry Tan of YC: Why The Next Unicorns Are Built By AI | Frameworks for Growth

    In this episode of Frameworks for Growth, Vanta CEO Christina Cacioppo sits down with Garry Tan, President and CEO of Y Combinator, to explore how early-stage startups can find product-market fit in an AI age, when a startup idea is worth pursuing, and what it means to operate in “founder mode.” Whether you're a founder, operator, or investor, this episode offers actionable startup advice and insight from one of the most influential voices in tech. 🔑 Topics covered (timestamps): 00:11 - Introduction 00:35 - What’s different about today’s tech landscape 02:15 - What does YC try to impress upon their founders 03:41 - Are there more pivots in YC 06:11 - Advice for founders building in AI 08:41 - Scaling with fewer employees 10:34 - What it means to be high agency 14:26 - Advising startups on design and taste 15:31 - Founders should work in call centers 17:24 - Vibe coding and knowledge work 18:42 - Will AI make it easier or harder to pick startups 23:01 - Are YC companies shrinking in size over time 24:29 - Running Initialized Capital vs. running YC 26:57 - Flow state at a startup vs. at big companies 27:30 - Why more billionaires is a good thing 28:23 - Frameworks and advice for startup founders 29:11 - Advantages of being a first-time founder 30:31 - Do things that don’t scale 31:51 - Knowing when you’ve found product market fit 32:38 - Garry on AI regulation 34:58 - Open source AI 36:31 - Garry on being a content creator 39:09 - What would a Garry Tan LLM get wrong 41:49 - Lightning round 43:43 - Letting people go at a startup 🚀 To learn more about Vanta helps startups scale, visit us at: vanta.com/startups

    47 min

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Frameworks for Growth is a Vanta series where CEO and Co-founder Christina Cacioppo sits down with founders, leaders, and investors from the world’s most innovative companies. In each episode, Christina and our guests explore the strategies, challenges, and key decisions that have shaped their journeys, offering actionable insights and proven frameworks to help your business grow with confidence.