Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT

Project PACT

Welcome to Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT, a podcast dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community. Through meaningful conversations and insights from experts, this podcast emphasizes that both citizens and police are part of the community, aiming to foster unity and build trust through partnership. Beyond the Bandaids helps you rediscover this purpose and make a real difference by looking within and fostering deeper community connections. Instead of focusing on symptoms or past problems, we concentrate on creating a future where lasting, positive changes are not just possible, but probable. For community members, Beyond the Bandaids offers a hopeful perspective on collaboration and compassion. Together, we can create vibrant, thriving neighborhoods where everyone plays a role in public safety and well-being. Join us as we explore transformative conversations and pave the way for a safer, more harmonious future for all. Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you in partnership with the Law Enforcement Action Partnership, New Blue, and The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship, and Service (SOSSAS).

  1. Building Social Capital to Crowd Out Crime

    23小时前

    Building Social Capital to Crowd Out Crime

    How can communities move from dependence on institutions to interdependence with one another? This episode explores how communities can move beyond dependence on institutions and embrace interdependence to create lasting safety and well-being. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss strategies rooted in John McKnight’s asset-based community development model, highlighting the importance of cultivating relationships, building trust, and amplifying neighborhood gifts. Together, they unpack how focusing on goodness, social capital, and shared responsibility transforms both neighborhoods and public safety culture. Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  (03:37) Mike honors John McKnight’s legacy and explains his conviction that neighborhoods themselves can heal when supported with purpose. (07:11) The importance of listening and understanding when engaging diverse community perspectives. (09:18) Conversations with city managers and police chiefs about shifting effectiveness metrics from arrests to community self-reliance. (14:42) Helping neighbors recognize their own gifts, skills, and talents. (19:57) How initial resistance and frustration from community members can evolve into shared responsibility. (22:55) Connecting neuroscience to policing (28:31) How block parties, barbecues, and potlucks build belonging in neighborhoods. (35:36) Why community engagement and goodness naturally crowd out crime and harmful behaviors. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local...

    48 分钟
  2. Safer Neighborhoods Through Stewardship

    9月4日

    Safer Neighborhoods Through Stewardship

    What does it look like to embrace citizenship by taking responsibility for safety, instead of leaving it to others? This episode explores how neighborhoods can move from dependence on police and government toward interdependent, self-reliant models of community safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the stewardship mindset, the importance of partnership, and the collective will that transforms neighborhoods. Through lessons from thought leaders and reflections on disasters, the hosts emphasize that lasting safety comes when communities take ownership of their future. Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  (01:00) Redefining Community Safety * The idea of neighborhoods owning their own safety. * The shift from patriarchal models of policing to true partnerships with communities. (10:15) Neighborhoods * How different neighborhoods evolve at different paces toward self-reliance. (23:05) From Dependence to Partnership * Joint accountability, the dangers of unhealthy dependence, and the limits of policing. (30:01) Disasters and Neighborhood Resilience * Carol recalls her neighborhood’s experience during a devastating flood and the role of the National Guard. (41:00) Shared Responsibility * How collaboration, nurturing, and consistency are the puzzle pieces of lasting safety. Resources:  * Abundant Community by Peter Block and John McKnight.  * Safety in Our Hands by Peter Block and Mike Butler. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect...

    51 分钟
  3. From Command and Control to Collaborative Community Partnerships

    8月28日

    From Command and Control to Collaborative Community Partnerships

    How can neighborhoods take ownership of their safety? This episode continues to explore alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system and how communities can take a leading role in creating safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss programs that transformed neighborhoods, addressed mental health and substance use, and reframed domestic violence as a health issue.  Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  03:20 – Vision for Change * How deep listening shaped Mike’s leadership in Longmont, moving away from command-and-control policing. 11:59 – Community Conversations  * Inviting neighborhoods to direct safety efforts.  29:09 – Co-Responder Models  * Addressing mental health, substance abuse, and homelessness. 41:22 – Trauma and Healing * How trauma multiplies within the justice system and how community-wide involvement reduces domestic violence lethality. 47:37 – Building Sustainable Change * How Longmont reduced gangs and violent crime. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community. Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx  Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm  Subscribe via YouTube: a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    55 分钟
  4. Rethinking Justice: Alternatives to Police Citations and Arrests

    8月21日

    Rethinking Justice: Alternatives to Police Citations and Arrests

    Are the police responsible for fixing the social issues of our communities? In this episode, we continue to explore what we discussed in the previous episode—what it means for a police department to go beyond arrests and citations. Chief Butler reflects on his time in Longmont, Colorado, describing how acknowledging pain, listening deeply, and experimenting with restorative justice transformed both the police department and the community. Together, we highlight how partnerships, shared accountability, and social connections create a safer and more connected future. Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  03:20 – Acknowledging the Past * Mike recalls the challenges he faced in Longmont after a tragic incident. * The importance of recognizing trauma and beginning with deep listening. 11:46 – Listening and Building Trust * How vulnerability and active listening laid the groundwork for new community relationships. * How creating safe spaces for dialogue builds trust internally and externally. * Mike describes holding multiple listening sessions with staff and the community to move conversations from pain toward the future. 21:00 – Planting Seeds of Change * Connecting the concept of “fertile soil” to the cultural shift away from black-and-white policing. 25:18 – Alternatives to Enforcement * Restorative justice and how Longmont’s efforts reduced recidivism and improved victim satisfaction. 32:32 – Measuring Success Differently * Three guiding questions for public safety: community safety, reducing recidivism, and healing victims. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how...

    44 分钟
  5. Beyond Arrest and Citations: From Punishment to Partnership

    8月14日

    Beyond Arrest and Citations: From Punishment to Partnership

    What alternatives to arrests and citations can reduce harm and strengthen safety? In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin challenge the overreliance on arrests and citations as default responses to complex social and health issues. They explore how the criminal justice system’s one-size-fits-all model perpetuates cycles of harm for both offenders and victims. They also highlight the need for upstream solutions, deeper community partnerships, and practical alternatives that prioritize safety and belonging. Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  (0:19) Overrelying on the Criminal Justice System * How arrests and citations have become default tools for addressing social and health issues. * Why some elected officials perpetuate the idea that laws and penalties can “fix” complex problems, despite high recidivism rates. (8:29) Building Trust and Compassion * Mutual trust, compassion, and resource development are foundations for healthier police-community relationships. (15:57) Disentangling Police From the Criminal Justice “Hip” * Challenging police departments to develop alternatives beyond arrests, urging connection with the “heart of the community.” (22:30) Lack of Options and Systemic Bottlenecks * Calls for emotional intelligence and active listening training to help officers discern better responses. * How the lack of practical alternatives leaves officers with few options, feeding into an overwhelmed justice system. (33:25) Community Partnerships * The need for community collaboration and victim inclusion in justice processes. * How restorative justice prioritizes healing for victims while reducing offender recidivism. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): a href="https://sossas.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    40 分钟
  6. Replacing Band-Aids With Real Police Reform

    8月7日

    Replacing Band-Aids With Real Police Reform

    How can we move beyond short-term police reforms and toward lasting cultural change? This episode explores the evolving state of policing in America and the cultural shifts necessary for true reform. Mike, Carol, and Kristin reflect on the last decade of public safety, the recurring cycles of tragedy and retreat, and the need for interdependent relationships between police and communities.  Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  (8:30) The Trap of Band-Aid Fixes * Many police reforms are reactionary, failing to address deeper systemic issues. * How punitive legislation overlooks community responsibility. (20:20) Shifting the Power Dynamic * Why fear-based policies harm both police and community trust. * How community empowerment is key to healthy public safety. (28:05) Ending the Tug-of-War * How alignment and trust build stronger neighborhoods. * Police departments can be leverage points for broader cultural evolution. (36:00) The Hope for Sustainable Change * A vision of citizens as collaborators in safety. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community. Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx  Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm  Subscribe via YouTube: a...

    45 分钟
  7. Co-Creating Safety: Police & Community in Longmont

    7月31日

    Co-Creating Safety: Police & Community in Longmont

    What can happen when a police department invites the community to co-author its mission? This episode explores Chief Mike Butler’s transformational leadership in Longmont, Colorado, revealing how authentic conversations, strategic vulnerability, and restorative justice reshaped public safety.  Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  (0:44) Reimagining Police Leadership * How Mike used conversation and curiosity to understand and reshape Longmont’s policing culture. (8:57) Vulnerability and Transparency in Policing * Mike discusses the strategic planning process that involved over 1,000 community and staff voices. * How internal healing allowed police officers to extend trust and vulnerability outward. (22:01) Restorative Justice and Youth Engagement * Restorative justice models that address youth crime. * How co-creating with citizens helped reduce reliance on the criminal justice system. (29:46) Mental Health and Community-Based Responses * Longmont’s interventions with addiction. * The role of community in reducing crime and creating healing. (35:22) The Role of Training in Cultural Shift * The importance of training in reshaping officer mindset and skills. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community. Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx  Subscribe via Spotify:...

    40 分钟
  8. Developing Transformational Leaders in Police Departments

    7月24日

    Developing Transformational Leaders in Police Departments

    What qualities truly matter when selecting a future police chief? Also, how can police departments develop leaders who are genuinely transformational?  This episode rethinks the selection and development of police leaders, emphasizing the need for transformational individuals who can foster profound community engagement and move beyond traditional law enforcement roles. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of relational skills, transparency, and a long-term vision for police chiefs to build trust and create a safer, more connected future.  Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:  (2:53) Rethinking Police Leadership * The need for a shift in mindset around leadership development in police departments. (08:08) Culture and Accountability * Why transparency and cultural change should be priorities for leaders. * The lack of relational training in formal education programs. (14:34) Flaws in the Chief Selection Process * How many selection panels ignore the qualities that build long-term community trust. * Mike shares a hiring story to illustrate how being people-oriented is a non-negotiable. * Leadership must move beyond strategic planning to relational presence and team-building. (34:48) Advice for Police Chiefs  * Reflecting on ambition and on your leadership style. This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/  Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/  Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/  Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids: Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/  Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/  Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/  The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.  Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/  New Blue: https://newblue.org/  The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/  Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community. Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: a...

    44 分钟

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Welcome to Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT, a podcast dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community. Through meaningful conversations and insights from experts, this podcast emphasizes that both citizens and police are part of the community, aiming to foster unity and build trust through partnership. Beyond the Bandaids helps you rediscover this purpose and make a real difference by looking within and fostering deeper community connections. Instead of focusing on symptoms or past problems, we concentrate on creating a future where lasting, positive changes are not just possible, but probable. For community members, Beyond the Bandaids offers a hopeful perspective on collaboration and compassion. Together, we can create vibrant, thriving neighborhoods where everyone plays a role in public safety and well-being. Join us as we explore transformative conversations and pave the way for a safer, more harmonious future for all. Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you in partnership with the Law Enforcement Action Partnership, New Blue, and The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship, and Service (SOSSAS).