Fruitless Josiah Sutton

It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the fourth episode in a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining Josiah as co-host. However, we're pivoting away from rock and roll in the second half of the month to focus our hearts and minds on the Lord. We're talking worship music.
On today's episode, Kim Hensley joins Josh and Josiah to talk about her time as a worship leader. We talk about her education in music ministry, the politics and business of large evangelical churches, and why Kim ultimately left. 
Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonAudio credits
Jesus Freak - dc TalkAwesome God - Rich MullinsYesterday – bloom.

Taking a brief* intermission from Christian Rock Summer, this is the fifth installment of the Fruitless Bookclub, a show-within-a-show, featuring Chris Barker and Jake the Lawyer, where we read all those nonfiction books we've been meaning to read.  Today's episode is about If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution by Vincent Bevins. We talk about Occupy, the Arab Spring, Euromaidan, and so many other massive, spontaneous political movements during the 2010s that, ultimately, ended in defeat. Why did this happen? And what can we learn from the decade of mass protest?
*the longest episode of Fruitless, and I think longest episode of any podcast, I've ever done
Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work here: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & audio credits
Yesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom.

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It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the second episode in a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining me as co-host. We're talking "not a Christian band, just Christians in a band." We're talking Christianity being more of a relationship than a religion. 
On today's episode, Josh and I tackle the godfather of Christian indie, David Bazan of Pedro the Lion. We discuss Bazan's life and career trajectory, his messy "break up with God," and his role as a friend and critic of evangelicalism. We also discuss some of my favorite songs ever written.
Music by SHADE08Additional audio credits
"BCPOD 22 David Bazan of Pedro the Lion," Bad ChristianStrange Negotiations (2019)

It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the second episode in a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining Josiah as co-host. We're talking "not a Christian band, just Christians in a band." We're talking Christianity being more of a relationship than a religion. 
On today's episode, Nathan Thiessen (@NateT93) joins Josh and Josiah to talk about the post-hardcore band, Emery, and the podcast it gave birth to: Bad Christian. They discuss the band's role in the world of Christian alternative music, the complex relationship with purity culture in their early lyrics, and the way that they represented something of an off-ramp for many young people within conservative evangelicalism, including Josiah and Nate. 
Follow today's guest on Instagram @nathanthiessenmusic and on Twitter @NateT93Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferences
The Emery Episode, Spotify Playlist, https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5rfYKX6Os6RiyWyhVpyyQS?si=87257b46a1c6433c"BCPOD 22 David Bazan of Pedro the Lion," Bad Christian, https://open.spotify.com/episode/6C91sZZAdfMalhbLLKL1U0?si=9884b165081e4c7dNPR, All Things Considered, "Christians Turn To Podcasts To Say Things They Can't Say In Church," https://www.npr.org/transcripts/518644045?storyId=518644045/?storyId=518644045"What Would Jesus Sell? w. Toby Morrell (Bad Christian / Emery)," The System is Down on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76adDwor0rcsongmeanings.com"Christian Rocker, 10-Year Mars Hill Member Says Mark Driscoll Resignation Is 'Good News'," The Christian Post, https://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-rocker-10-year-mars-hill-member-says-mark-driscoll-resignation-is-good-news.html "Matt Carter," Rise Seattle Podcast, http://www.riseseattlepodcast.com/podcast/2017/10/16/s2-e3-matt-carter-bad-christians-in-seattle"Toby Morrell," Christian Metal Group FB on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnxKTBSp4Y8
Audio credits
Jesus Freak - dc TalkWalls - EmeryNPR, All Things Considered, "Christians Turn To Podcasts To Say Things They Can't Say In Church.""What Would Jesus Sell? w. Toby Morrell (Bad Christian / Emery)," The System is Down on YouTubeYesterday – bloom.The Party Song - EmeryWorld Away - EmeryCutthroat Collapse - EmeryFractions - EmeryBloodless - EmerySo Cold I Could See My Breath - EmeryStudying Politics - EmeryReturning the Smile You Have Had From the Start - EmeryListening to Freddie Mercury - EmeryRock-N-Rule - EmeryCan't Stop the Killer - EmeryDon't Bore Us, Get to the Chorus - EmeryButcher's Mouth - EmeryThe Smile, The Face - Emery

It's Christian Rock Summer! This is the beginning of a month long exploration of the fringes of Christian music with Josh Christianson joining Josiah as co-host. We're talking "not a Christian band, just Christians in a band." We're talking Christianity being more of a relationship than a religion. 
On today's episode, James (@cigarette_liker) joins Josh and Josiah to discuss the hardcore/metalcore/mathcore band, The Chariot, and its charismatic front man, Josh Scogin. They discuss the band's discography, their notorious live shows, what made them unique at the time, and whether or not there is a political or religious philosophy behind it all.
NOTE: I recorded the Patreon shout outs for this episode in June, so I missed a new person. So you get a shout out in the show notes. Thank you for supporting the show, racecaracecaracecar!
Follow today's guest on Twitter @cigarette_liker and on Bluesky @cigarettelikerBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsutton
References
The The Chariot Episode, Spotify Playlist, https://open.spotify.com/playlist/67c0zm8pnEOJDm5RkEt5ZX?si=98987567dc45493f Video to watch to get a feel for The Chariot's energy, the infamous pears incident: "THE CHARIOT PERTH 2011," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR4uoOVah7IAnother good video to see their stage presence: "The Chariot - Live in Plan B, Moscow 05.04.2012," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdulnrNKyMhate5six on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/@hate5sixI learned about Scogin leaving Norma Jean in the middle of a show from this essay: "The Theology of the Chariot," Mason Mennenga, https://masonmennenga.com/writings-1/2020/12/23/the-theology-of-the-chariotuswithoutThem, https://uswithoutthempod.com/"Jonathan Kindler: The Chariot," The BlackSheep Podcast, https://hmmagazine.com/podcast/jonathan-kindler-the-chariot/"Stephen Harrison: The Chariot and Fever 333," The BlackSheep Podcast, https://hmmagazine.com/podcast/stephen-harrison-the-chariot-and-fever-333"Bryan Taylor: The Chariot, The Threats, and Slowriter," The BlackSheep Podcast, https://hmmagazine.com/podcast/bryan-taylor-the-chariot-the-threats-and-slowriter/"Ex-The Chariot Members Say Josh Scogin Fired Them Because God Told Him To," The PRP, https://www.theprp.com/2018/06/04/news/ex-the-chariot-members-say-josh-scogin-fired-them-because-god-told-him-to/Ladies and Gentlemen... The Chariot: Tour Documentary, YouTube, originally on DVD, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voQ0A3P2Zy0The Chariot live at the Chameleon Club, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNBkiBbDs3Y"Josh Scogin of The Chariot - Testimony at Soulfest," SoulFest on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_O9InNvZwUAudio credits
Jesus Freak - dc TalkJosh Scogin of The Chariot - Testimony at Soulfest," SoulFest on YouTube"Bryan Taylor: The Chariot, The Threats, and Slowriter," The BlackSheep PodcastYesterday – bloom.The Company, The Comfort, The Grave - The ChariotMemphis Will Be Laid to Waste - Norma JeanAnd Shot Each Other - The Chariot"The Chariot - Live in Plan B, Moscow 05.04.2012," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdulnrNKyM"THE CHARIOT PERTH 2011," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR4uoOVah7IBack to Back - The ChariotTeach: - The ChariotIn My Dreams – bloom.The City - The Chariot

Hey everyone! Something came up and so I won't be able to release another free episode in June. To make up for that, I'm releasing this Patreon episode to the main feed. If you want a bit more detail, you can check out this Patreon post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/defeat-107021276
I kind of regretted pay-walling this one anyway, especially since I want to spread the word about this wonderful show. So enjoy!
Jackal joins Josiah to discuss the animated New Weird series, Scavengers Reign and, ultimately, pitch you all on watching it. They try to avoid spoilers as they discuss body and environmental horror, the influence of Jeff VanderMeer, the return of working class sci-fi, and also a little bit about AI, Starfield, and the Gaia Hypothesis.
References
Scavengers (2016), https://www.shortfilmwindow.com/scavengers/Scavengers Reign, Season 1 (2023), Netflix."Savage Planet: How ‘Scavengers Reign’ Creators Evolved Their Acclaimed Short into a Thrilling Sci-Fi Series," Jeff Spry in Animation Magazine, https://www.animationmagazine.net/2023/10/savage-planet-how-scavengers-reign-creators-evolve-their-acclaimed-short-into-a-thrilling-sci-fi-series/Music credits
Scavengers Reign Theme - Nicolas SnyderUnreal - SHADE08After Dark - SHADE08