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Private equity, venture capital and alternative investments - long-form podcasts with industry leaders

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Private equity, venture capital and alternative investments - long-form podcasts with industry leaders

    US mid-market investing, with Patrick Turner of VSS Capital Partners

    US mid-market investing, with Patrick Turner of VSS Capital Partners

    Ross Butler hosts Patrick Turner, Managing Director at VSS Capital Partners, a US-based lower mid-market private equity firm founded in 1981, originally named Veronis Suhler Stevenson. Patrick joined VSS in 2014, bringing a wealth of experience from his extensive career in leveraged buyouts in the US, and private equity in China. VSS focuses on the US lower mid-market, specifically targeting three verticals: education, healthcare, and outsourced business services with a technology angle. VSS’s approach to structured capital, which includes debt, preferred equity, and equity, tailored to the needs of founders looking to grow their businesses without giving up control. This strategy allows VSS to be competitive and less dilutive compared to traditional growth capital.

    KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
    VSS focuses on the US lower mid-market, specifically targeting three verticals: education, healthcare, and outsourced business services with a technology angle. VSS’s approach to structured capital, which includes debt, preferred equity, and equity, tailored to the needs of founders looking to grow their businesses without giving up control. This strategy allows VSS to be competitive and less dilutive compared to traditional growth capital.

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    #privateequity #venturecapital #MidMarket #StructuredCapital #privatecredit #leveragedbuyouts #growthcapital #BusinessServices #HealthcareInvestment #EducationInvestment #TechInvestment #AlternativeInvestments #podcast

    Fund Shack is a private equity podcast and global media channel for alternative investment professionals. Fund Shack is produced by Linear B Group and if you are interested in appearing on the show, wish to propose a client, or are interested in sponsorship, contact:
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    • 34 min
    How to hack venture capital, with Fatou Diagne

    How to hack venture capital, with Fatou Diagne

    Fatou Diagne is co-founder of Bootstrap Europe, which acquired the German portfolio of Silicon Valley Bank in 2023. She provides a fascinating insight into the elite world of lending to the top tier of venture-backed businesses. Venture debt might not have the brand-pizazz of its equity cousin, but from a risk/return perspective it ticks all the boxes.
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    Ross Butler interviews Fatou Diagne, co-founder of Bootstrap Europe. Fatou offers a compelling look into the world of venture debt, focusing on its role in funding high-growth technology businesses and its strategic advantages compared to traditional equity financing.
    Introduction to Venture Debt: Fatou Diagne explains that Bootstrap Europe provides debt funding to technology companies that have already received substantial equity investment. These companies are usually 5 to 7 years old, generating revenues of 5 to 20 million euros, and are backed by top-tier venture capital funds.
    Target Companies: Bootstrap Europe targets mature technology companies that have a proven growth formula but prefer not to dilute their equity further. The firm focuses on sectors like semiconductors, life sciences, and energy transition, seeking to support technologies that can significantly impact society.
    Venture Debt is way cooler than you think! Fatou clarifies that venture debt is often misunderstood. It is not a last resort for companies that cannot raise equity; instead, it is a strategic choice for well-capitalized companies looking to accelerate growth without further dilution.
    Deal Flow and Timing: Bootstrap Europe follows potential investment opportunities for several years, waiting for the right inflection point to provide growth debt. The firm typically invests after one or two rounds of equity funding, although this can vary.
    Benefits for Companies: The main advantage for companies using venture debt is the avoidance of dilution. Founders and early-stage investors can maintain larger stakes in the company, enhancing their returns upon exit.
    Terms of Venture Debt: The terms are transparent, with interest rates typically around 8-10% over the base rate. The debt is repaid over 3-4 years, with monthly payments of interest and principal.
    Bootstrap Europe’s Approach: The firm emphasizes a strong relationship with portfolio companies, focusing on providing support during both good and challenging times. They prefer to work closely with management teams to navigate growth and financing challenges.
    Acquisition of Silicon Valley Bank's German Portfolio: In 2023, Bootstrap Europe acquired the German portfolio of SVB. Fatou discusses the strategic and operational steps taken to complete this acquisition, emphasizing the importance of speed and expertise.
    Current Market Conditions: Fatou comments on the impact of global economic challenges on the tech sector, noting that while the market has cooled, there are still many high-quality investment opportunities. She highlights the importance of well-capitalized companies that can navigate difficult conditions to gain market share.
    Future Growth & Challenges: The discussion touches on the growth potential of venture debt in Europe and the challenges of increasing market penetration. Fatou believes that with more education and understanding, venture debt can become a more prominent part of the funding landscape.
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    • 37 min
    Corporate venture capital at Jaguar Land Rover, with Mike Smeed

    Corporate venture capital at Jaguar Land Rover, with Mike Smeed

    Mike Smeed is managing director of InMotion Ventures, the corporate venturing arm of Jaguar Land Rover.
    In this episode of the Fund Shack podcast, he speaks to Ross Butler about what the company looks for in start-up candidates and the rapidly evolving nature of corporate venture capital.
    Mike the Managing Director of InMotion Ventures, the corporate venture capital (CVC) arm of Jaguar Land Rover (JLR). Mike discusses his career background, including roles at a Shanghai-based joint venture and Walgreen Boots, and delves into the unique aspects of CVC compared to traditional venture capital (VC).

    Key Points:
    Corporate Venture Capital (CVC) vs. Venture Capital (VC):

    Similarities: CVC and VC both perform due diligence, focus on valuation and metrics, and aim for strategic investments.

    Differences: Historically, CVCs were viewed skeptically due to fears of corporate overreach. Modern CVCs have adopted VC professionalism and often invest off their parent companies’ balance sheets, with some even taking external capital.

    Role of InMotion Ventures:

    Strategic Focus: InMotion Ventures aims to accelerate innovation and support JLR’s strategic transformation, especially in areas like climate, industrial, and enterprise technologies.

    Investment Approach: Unlike many CVCs, InMotion invests in early-stage startups (seed to Series A) to add significant value to both JLR and the startups.

    CVC Evolution:

    Professionalization: Many CVCs now operate with the same rigor as traditional VCs, including thorough background checks and strategic valuations.

    Integration with Parent Companies: CVC leaders often come from within the parent company, blending corporate insight with investment acumen.

    Strategic Mandate:

    Innovation and Collaboration: InMotion Ventures aims to help JLR achieve carbon neutrality by 2039 and focuses on technologies critical to this transformation.

    Partnerships: The firm prefers co-investing and does not lead funding rounds, maintaining about a 5% equity stake to ensure active involvement without overwhelming influence.

    Investment Justifications:

    Ecosystem Access: Being an active investor attracts other investors and startups, facilitating ecosystem engagement.

    Innovation and Speed: Investing in startups accelerates innovation and market readiness, providing JLR with early access to cutting-edge technologies.

    Capital Efficiency: Strategic investments leverage larger rounds by financial VCs, maximizing impact with relatively small contributions.

    Success Stories and Examples:

    Investments: Mike discusses successful investments, such as in companies developing head-up displays and augmented reality technologies.

    Collaboration with Competitors: InMotion Ventures collaborates with other automotive giants like Volvo and BMW to co-invest in promising technologies.

    Value to Startups:

    Strategic Support: Startups benefit from JLR’s extensive resources, including engineering expertise and testing facilities.

    Mutual Benefits: While InMotion seeks financial returns, the primary goal is strategic alignment with JLR’s broader goals.


    Conclusion:
    The interview highlights the evolving landscape of CVC, emphasizing strategic partnerships, professional investment practices, and the mutual benefits of fostering innovation within large corporate structures. Mike underscores the importance of balancing financial returns with strategic goals to drive both corporate growth and startup success.

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    • 24 min
    Renewables, infrastructure & regional growth equity: Bernard Fairman of Foresight Group

    Renewables, infrastructure & regional growth equity: Bernard Fairman of Foresight Group

    Foresight Group was a pioneer in renewable energy investment back in the 1990s. Today, it's a diversified investment group listed in London. Its founder and chairman, Bernard Fairman, talks about its expansion into global infrastructure, why he favours hydrogen over electric, and his plans to build out the firm's UK venture investment arm into an international-regional growth equity franchise.

    • 35 min
    Central Europe private equity: a surprisingly big opportunity. With Robert Knorr

    Central Europe private equity: a surprisingly big opportunity. With Robert Knorr

    MidEuropa pioneered private equity buyout investing in Central Europe, launching in 1999. Robert Knorr has been a partner since 2007. He was recently awarded Private Equity Mid Market Leader of the Year at the Real Deals private equity awards for his pivotal role in investment in the region. In this podcast he talks to Ross Butler about opportunities from Poland to the Med, and a very big win in Romania with Profi.


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    In this episode of the Fund Shack podcast, Ross Butler interviews Robert Knorr, Managing Partner at MidEuropa, to explore the firm’s pioneering role in private equity investment across Central Europe. MidEuropa, established in 1999, has become a key player in the region, transitioning from venture capital to buyout funds. The discussion highlights their strategic focus on sectors such as consumer goods, healthcare, and technology, emphasizing the importance of sustainability and digitalization in their investment strategies.
    Highlights:
    1) Private Equity and Buyout Funds: MidEuropa has been instrumental in shaping the private equity landscape in Central Europe. Their transition from venture capital to buyout funds has been a strategic move to capitalize on the region’s economic development and emerging markets.

    2) Investment and Economic Development: The firm’s investments have significantly contributed to the economic transition and development of Central European countries, integrating them into the broader European Union market.

    3) Sector Focus: MidEuropa targets consumer goods, healthcare, and technology sectors, areas that offer high growth potential and align with their strategic investment goals. Sustainability and Digitalization: Emphasizing sustainability, MidEuropa promotes energy transition and sustainable practices. They also leverage digitalization to enhance business services and operations.

    4) Corporate Carve-Outs and Cross-Border Investments: The firm has successfully executed corporate carve-outs and cross-border investments, demonstrating their expertise in managing complex mergers and acquisitions (M&A).

    5) Nearshoring: Leveraging the talent pool in Central Europe, MidEuropa facilitates nearshoring of services, providing cost-effective and high-quality business services.

    6) Financial Returns and Investor Relations: The episode details MidEuropa’s approach to delivering strong financial returns and maintaining robust investor relations.

    #privateequity #investment #centraleurope #sustainableinvestment #emergingmarkets #businessgrowth #economicdevelopment #venturecapital #digitaltransformation #infrastructure #telecom #consumergoods #HealthcareInvesting #poland #techinvestments

    • 43 min
    Private equity secondaries uncovered: Etienne Deshormes

    Private equity secondaries uncovered: Etienne Deshormes

    Fund Shack Podcast Featuring Etienne Deshormes of Elm Capital
    In this engaging episode of the Fund Shack podcast, 🎙️ Ross Butler interviews Etienne Deshormes, CEO of Elm Capital, to delve into the intricacies of the private equity secondary market. Elm Capital, founded in 2004 by Etienne after his career in investment banking at JP Morgan, specializes in providing liquidity to private market investors.
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    Key Points Discussed:


    Private Equity Secondaries: Etienne Deshormes explains how the secondary market provides liquidity to an inherently illiquid sector. He outlines the development of the market from its early days in the 2000s when it was discreet and associated with distress sales, to its current, more accepted status.


    Global Financial Crisis Impact: The 2008 financial crisis was a turning point for the secondary market. Etienne highlights how the crisis forced many LPs to seek liquidity solutions, leading to a surge in secondary transactions. This period marked the only time in his career when assets were sold at a 100% discount, underscoring the desperation for liquidity.


    Liquidity Solutions: The discussion includes how the secondary market has evolved as a strategic tool for managing portfolios, not just in distress situations. Etienne notes the rise in the use of secondary transactions to handle overexposure and liquidity issues exacerbated by recent economic challenges such as inflation and rising interest rates.


    Current Market Dynamics: Etienne describes the current market conditions, emphasizing the impact of the denominator effect and rising interest rates on private equity portfolios. He explains how these factors have increased the need for secondary transactions as a liquidity solution.


    Denominator Effect: The podcast covers the impact of the denominator effect, where declines in public market values cause private equity allocations to exceed target levels, forcing LPs to sell stakes to rebalance their portfolios.


    Continuation Funds: Detailed insights are provided into continuation funds, which allow GPs to manage assets beyond the typical fund life by selling them to new vehicles backed by secondary investors. Etienne discusses the evolution of continuation funds from being a last resort to a strategic option for managing high-quality assets and mature portfolios.


    Investor Strategies: The podcast delves into how LPs and GPs navigate the secondary market to optimize their portfolios. Etienne discusses different strategies, such as selling single fund interests or entire portfolios, and the factors influencing these decisions.


    Market Pricing and Discounts: Etienne explains how secondary market pricing works, particularly during downturns when discounts can be steep. He provides examples from 2022, where buyout funds were trading at significant discounts due to market conditions.


    Role of Elm Capital: Elm Capital’s role in the secondary market is highlighted, including how they assist clients in finding buyers or sellers for secondary transactions. Etienne describes their integrated approach to serving both primary and secondary market needs.


    Future Outlook: Etienne shares his outlook for the secondary market in 2024, predicting increased deal flow and a gradual recovery in pricing as public markets stabilize. He also discusses the long-term potential for the secondary market to become more mainstream as more investors recognize its strategic value.


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    • 33 min

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