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Private equity, venture capital and alternative investments - long-form podcasts with industry leaders Dive into in-depth conversations with industry leaders and gain exclusive insights into the world of private capital. 🎙️Fund Shack is dedicated to providing thought-provoking, authentic discussions with the most respected private capital managers, asset managers, professional advisers, & thought leaders. Our long-form interviews are unscripted, ensuring genuine & enriching conversations. Hosted by Ross Butler, 25 years in the private capital industry.

  1. Private Equity Myths vs Reality: Jobs, Housing and 401(k)s | Will Dunham American Investment Council

    12/11/2025

    Private Equity Myths vs Reality: Jobs, Housing and 401(k)s | Will Dunham American Investment Council

    Will Dunham, President and CEO of the American Investment Council, joins Fund Shack to unpack one of the most misunderstood debates in modern finance: the real economic impact of private equity and private credit in the United States. We explore how private capital supports 13 million American jobs, why online narratives around housing and healthcare often diverge from the data, and how private equity is funding manufacturing reshoring, AI infrastructure and national security. We also examine the policy shift opening 401(k) retirement plans to alternative investments, the controversy around private credit and systemic risk, and the broader question of whether private capital remains aligned with everyday Americans. Topics include: 🔹private equity in US housing 🔹build-to-rent supply 🔹rent-to-own models 🔹healthcare access and innovation 🔹 the growth of private credit 🔹Federal Reserve research on systemic risk 🔹the shrinking US public markets 🔹pension fund returns 🔹the diversification challenge for retirement savers 🔹the SEC private fund adviser rule 🔹the political dynamics shaping private capital's licence to operate. For investors, advisers, policymakers and allocators seeking a clear view of how private markets actually function on Main Street, this episode offers grounded analysis rather than headlines. 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹Thank you to our episode partnerBrookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services.For more information, visit: www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹💼 Learn more at: Will Dunham President and Chief Executive Officer🌐 www.investmentcouncil.orgCONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/dunhamwill/ Ross ButlerFounder and Host Fund Shack 🌐 www.fund-shack.comCONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book 👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian#investlikeabarbarian 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹Fund Shack is the private equity podcast with in-depth conversations with investors, founders, and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets.🔗 More episodes www.fund-shack.com 📩 Subscribe to our Substack: https://privateequitypodcastfundshack.substack.com/Suggest a guest: katie@linearB.media🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹

    35 min
  2. Brookfield: The private markets giant that flies below the radar

    11/19/2025

    Brookfield: The private markets giant that flies below the radar

    Ross Butler speaks with David Nowak, President of Brookfield’s Private Equity Group. David leads Brookfield’s North American private equity business and its evergreen strategy. He brings a contrarian, operations-led viewpoint shaped by more than a decade working across one of the world’s most integrated alternative-investment platforms. We explore how Brookfield focuses on essential-service businesses that are misunderstood, how it leverages information advantages drawn from its global infrastructure, real estate, renewables and energy-transition platforms, and why its dual-sponsorship model between investors and operators produces repeatable value creation across market cycles. Brookfield’s approach is not thematic. Instead, it targets situations where perceived risk diverges from actual risk. David discusses the Westinghouse acquisition as an example: nuclear power was deeply out of favour, yet Brookfield’s renewables team demonstrated it remained indispensable to regional power grids. Operational work then doubled EBITDA. A similar framework guided the acquisition of Clarios, where market consensus around electric vehicles failed to reflect realistic adoption rates and operational improvement opportunities. A large part of Brookfield’s private equity model centres on operations. Around 35 senior operators sit directly inside the investment floor, and every deal is jointly owned by an investor and an operator from diligence through exit. Over half of Brookfield’s private equity returns have come from operational improvement, not leverage. Investment professionals also spend a year inside a portfolio company before promotion, building practical judgement that informs decision-making back at headquarters. David also unpacks Brookfield’s exit discipline, the benefits of long-dated and permanent capital, and why resilient, essential-service companies tend to attract strategic buyers regardless of market cycles. Finally, he discusses culture, humility and career progression, offering grounded advice for young professionals entering private markets. Key themes Contrarian investing and misunderstood essential-service businessesInformation advantage across Brookfield’s multi-platform global footprintThe pilot / co-pilot model between investors and operatorsOperational value creation and secondments into portfolio companiesEBITDA improvement through pricing, supply-chain and organisational workEvergreen capital, strategic exits and long-hold flexibilityCulture, apprenticeship and career development in private equity🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹💼 Learn more at: 🌐 www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industryDavid Nowak: https://www.brookfield.com/about-us/leadership/david-nowakBrookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services. Ross Butler: Founder and Host Fund Shack 🌐 www.fund-shack.comCONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book 👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian#investlikeabarbarian 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹Fund Shack is the private capital podcast with in-depth conversations with investors, founders, and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets. Its were Private Markets meets private Wealth. 📩 Subscribe to our Substack: https://privateequitypodcastfundshack.substack.com/🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹00:00 Why Brookfield avoids thematic investing 01:00 Evolution of Brookfield’s PE strategy 03:00 Essential-services focus; 06:00 Dual-sponsorship model 09:00 Integrated open-floor culture 12:00 Westinghouse case 15:00 Operational EBITDA gains 18:00 Investor secondments 20:00 Clarios and EV cycles 24:00 PE in higher rates 28:00 Strategic exits 31:00 Alignment and pricing discipline 33:00 Culture and apprenticeship 35:00 Career guidance 38:00 Closing reflections

    39 min
  3. Creative destruction and the making of the modern world, with Jack Weatherford

    10/31/2025

    Creative destruction and the making of the modern world, with Jack Weatherford

    Anthropologist and best-selling author Jack Weatherford, whose Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World redefined how we view empire and innovation, joins Ross Butler to explore how the Mongol world prefigured today’s private equity model. When the Mongols swept across Eurasia in the thirteenth century, they destroyed old orders, but they also built new ones. In this conversation, Jack Weatherford explains how Genghis Khan combined conquest with institution-building, creating a meritocratic system that elevated productivity and aligned incentives in a way that modern investors would recognise. We discuss how Mongol queens managed ortōq enterprises, private trading ventures that resemble early forms of private equity, how religious freedom became the first international law, and how the empire’s census, taxation and communication systems created transparency across continents. As the empire matured, Kublai Khan’s experiments with paper money, movable type and naval technology expanded global trade and spread ideas that helped ignite the European Renaissance. The discussion links thirteenth-century portfolio thinking to today’s private markets, showing why creative destruction only endures when creation wins. 0:00 Creative destruction and leadership1:26 Learning loops, humility and meritocracy3:56 Parallels with private equity ownership10:22 Building value through safety and trade15:02 Census, taxation and the power of numbers16:21 Queens as capital allocators – the ortōq system19:19 Religious freedom as economic policy26:59 A family-office view of the known world31:49 Kublai Khan’s operating model37:36 Paper money and the limits of fiat45:02 Global trade and early financial flows46:05 Europe’s asymmetric gains from knowledge transfer52:13 Technology recombination in warfare58:12 Naval trebuchets and siege innovation1:01:27 Horse economies and resilience1:05:22 Genghis Khan’s Western intellectual legacy1:08:16 Enduring principles for modern investors Jack Weatherford is an anthropologist, historian and author of Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World and The History of Money. His work explores how ideas, trade and governance evolved across civilisations and how they continue to shape modern institutions. 📘 Read Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genghis-Khan-Making-Modern-World/dp/0609809644 private equity, private markets, Fund Shack, Ross Butler, Jack Weatherford, Genghis Khan, creative destruction, history of finance, financial history, ortōq, family office, meritocracy, value creation, governance, institutional investing, long-term capital, wealth management, portfolio construction, alternative investments, anthropology of markets, economic history, private equity podcast, private markets podcast 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 Ross ButlerFounder and Host Fund Shack 🌐 www.fund-shack.com CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book 👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 Fund Shack is the private equity podcast with in-depth conversations with investors, founders, and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets. 🔗 More episodes www.fund-shack.com 📩 Subscribe to our Substack: https://privateequitypodcastfundshack.substack.com/

    1h 8m
  4. Fintech, Agentic AI & the Future of Financial Services | Apis Partners: Uday Goyal & Matteo Stefanel | Episode #78

    10/20/2025

    Fintech, Agentic AI & the Future of Financial Services | Apis Partners: Uday Goyal & Matteo Stefanel | Episode #78

    Ross Butler speaks with Matteo Stefanel and Udayan (“Uday”) Goyal, Co-Founders and Managing Partners of Apis Partners, one of the world’s leading growth-equity investors in financial technology. Founded in 2014, Apis Partners has built a global fintech franchise by applying M&A discipline to private equity: identify the likely acquirers first, then build the company to fit their strategic blueprint. In this conversation, Matteo and Uday explain how they turned two decades of deal-making experience, from DLJ and Deutsche Bank to advising on Visa, Mastercard, and Worldpay into one of the most distinctive investment models in growth capital. They discuss: How Apis built credibility as a first-time fund manager, raising $290m at launch and scaling to a multi-fund global platform. The importance of the network as an asset, relationships forged over 20 years now drive sourcing, diligence, talent, and exits. “Exit-first” investing, designing portfolio companies around known strategic buyers and building to a defined market demand. Why 2025 marks the most disruptive moment in financial services history, as stablecoins, micropayments, and decentralised rails reshape how money moves. The rise of agentic AI, where your personal financial assistant will soon negotiate directly with your bank’s AI. Embedded finance and the subscription economy, from iPhones to autos, where distribution and customer ownership, not balance sheet, define value. The democratisation of wealth, as technology opens private-market access to a broader investor base while raising new questions about fairness, data, and risk. “Finance will be invisible, stitched into every product, every experience.” This is a forward-looking discussion about what comes after banking, where technology, capital, and human behaviour converge to redefine how financial systems work and who benefits from them. 🎧 Watch the full conversation at www.fund-shack.com Follow Fund Shack on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts for more conversations with the people shaping private markets and the future of finance.🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹Thank you to our episode partnerBrookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services.For more information, visit: www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹💼 Learn more at: 🌐 www.apis.pe🎙️Matteo Stefanel Managing Partner & Co-Founder, Apis PartnersLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matteostefanel/🎙️Udayan GoyalManaging Partner & Co-Founder, Apis PartnersLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ugoyal/Ross ButlerFounder and Host Fund Shack 🌐 www.fund-shack.comCONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 📩 Subscribe to our Substack: https://privateequitypodcastfundshack.substack.com/ 📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book Invest Like a Barbarian http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 00:00 Fintech revolution begins, Apis Partners ranked global #201:45 Meet Apis Partners, fintech growth investors Matteo Stefanel & Udayan Goyal03:06 From Wall Street to growth capital, building a fintech platform05:01 Relationships as alpha networks turned into exits07:56 Exit-first model designing for strategic buyers11:24 Value creation buy-and-build and customer access16:21 Partnering with founders, trust and alignment18:20 Stablecoins & 24-hour liquidity, treasury reinvented23:54 Micropayments & continuous finance, real-time money flow27:27 Agentic AI, automation reshaping financial services31:15 Embedded finance & subscriptions, banking disappears36:52 Who owns the customer, brands vs banks42:46 Finance as social engine,from UBI to capital ownership47:00 Democratising wealth, opening private-market access50:20 Bitcoin vs stablecoins, new financial infrastructure54:28 the future of finance

    55 min
  5. HSBC Asset Management on Alternatives, with William Benjamin

    09/26/2025

    HSBC Asset Management on Alternatives, with William Benjamin

    Private markets are no longer on the sidelines. With listed companies shrinking and private companies multiplying, alternatives are becoming a core component of diversified portfolios. In this episode of Fund Shack, Ross Butler speaks with William Benjamin, Head of Alternative Solutions at HSBC Asset Management, about how alternatives are evolving and why investors haven’t “missed the boat” in the 2020s. Benjamin discusses: Why private equity, credit, infrastructure, and venture capital are central to HSBC’s $75bn alternatives platform The growth of evergreen fund structures and what investors should look for in managers The challenges and opportunities of democratizing access to private markets How HSBC leverages its global footprint to source opportunities beyond New York and London The cultural and career dynamics of talent in alternatives This conversation explores how one of the world’s largest financial institutions is positioning itself in alternatives, and why Benjamin believes the next phase of growth will be defined not just by institutions, but by the increasing participation of high-net-worth investors. 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 👉 Subscribe to Fund Shack for more in-depth conversations on private markets and the future of investment. 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 💼 Learn more at: HSBC Asset Management 🌐 www.assetmanagement.hsbc.co.uk William Benjamin, Head of Alternative Solutions at HSBC Asset Management 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/w-benjamin/ Ross Butler Founder and Host Fund Shack 🌐 www.fund-shack.com CONNECT on Linkedin www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/ 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 00:00 – Introduction: William Benjamin, HSBC Asset Management 01:03 – Why alternatives are becoming mainstream 02:13 – Haven’t investors missed the boat? 03:49 – Diversification and resilient portfolios 04:36 – Democratization of private markets 05:00 – Evergreen funds: what investors should know 06:22 – Private equity & HSBC’s global sourcing edge 09:46 – Private credit: diversification and risk management 13:43 – Infrastructure, venture capital & new opportunities 16:24 – $75bn in alternatives: HSBC’s growth outlook 19:53 – Talent, culture & career advice in alternatives 23:12 – Data, digital platforms & evergreen structures 28:12 – The five-year outlook for private markets 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 #PrivateEquity #PrivateMarkets #AlternativeInvestments #FundShack #HSBCAssetManagement #EvergreenFunds #PrivateCredit #InfrastructureInvesting #VentureCapital #PortfolioDiversification #WealthManagement #InstitutionalInvestors #HNWInvesting #AssetManagement #InvestmentStrategies

    30 min
  6. Venture Capital, National Security, and the Future of Technology | Alex van Someren

    09/12/2025

    Venture Capital, National Security, and the Future of Technology | Alex van Someren

    Alex van Someren has spent his career at the frontier of technology, venture capital, and national security. From joining Acorn Computers as a teenager, the company that seeded ARM Holdings, to co-founding cryptography firm nCipher, becoming a partner at Amadeus Capital Partners, and later serving as the UK’s Chief Scientific Adviser for National Security, his career offers unique insight into how capital and innovation shape geopolitics. In this episode, Alex explains how the UK’s National Security Strategic Investment Fund (NSIF) mirrors DARPA-backed venture in the US, why government must learn to take risk to access frontier technology, and the realities of venture capital returns. He discusses the hype and risks around artificial intelligence, the disruptive potential of quantum computing, the fragility of semiconductor supply chains, and the ESG debate around nuclear energy and small modular reactors. For investors, entrepreneurs, and policymakers, this conversation maps the crucial intersection of capital, technology, and defence in a changing global order. 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 Thank you to our episode partner Brookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services. For more information, visit: www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 👉 Subscribe to Fund Shack for more in-depth conversations on private markets and the future of investment. 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 💼 Learn more at: Paladin Capital Group 🌐 www.paladincapgroup.com Alex van Someren www.paladincapgroup.com/people/alex-van-someren/ Ross Butler Founder and Host Fund Shack 🌐 www.fund-shack.com CONNECT on Linkedin www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/ 🔹🔹🔹🔹🔹 Alex van Someren, Fund Shack, Venture Capital, Private Equity, National Security, Defence Technology, Dual-use Technology, Cryptography, nCipher, Amadeus Capital Partners, Acorn Computers, ARM Holdings, National Security Strategic Investment Fund, NSIF, DARPA, Government Venture Capital, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Large Language Models, Quantum Computing, Post-Quantum Cryptography, National Cyber Security Centre, NCSC, Semiconductor Supply Chain, CHIPS Act, National Semiconductor Strategy, Space Technology, Satellites, ESG, Nuclear Energy, Small Modular Reactors, Fusion Energy, Private Markets, Technology Innovation, Geopolitics, UK Venture Capital, Silicon Valley, Defence Spending, NATO, Paladin Capital, Calypso AI, Emerging Technologies, Risk and Innovation, Venture Returns 0:00 – Introduction 0:40 – From teenage coder to Acorn Computers and ARM Holdings 2:33 – Leaving school at 17: self-taught entrepreneur 3:26 – Building nCipher and cryptography’s real-world applications 5:27 – Dual use: civilian vs. national security technology 7:21 – The hidden history of venture capital and DARPA 8:58 – The UK’s National Security Strategic Investment Fund (NSIF) 10:42 – Risk, government spending, and culture clash with VC 15:53 – “If you aren’t losing at least half your money…” 20:08 – The US CHIPS Act and Europe’s semiconductor challenge 29:23 – Venture capital’s boom in defence spending 36:18 – AI is over-hyped, over-used, and makes us stupid 40:30 – Defending the corporate AI stack (Paladin & Calypso) 44:00 – Quantum computing: encryption at risk 47:38 – Why space is now accessible to schoolchildren 51:31 – ESG and nuclear: small modular reactors, fusion, and energy policy 56:10 – Why making money in venture capital is so hard 59:05 – Closing reflections

    1h 1m
  7. Private Equity Emerging Managers: What it takes to make it

    06/18/2025

    Private Equity Emerging Managers: What it takes to make it

    🎧 Episode #74: Emerging Managers: What It Takes to Make It Guests: Kim Pochon (Unigestion) & Joe Briggs (BCF ) Series Launch: Fund Shack's Emerging Manager Series In this launch episode of Fund Shack’s Emerging Manager Series, Ross Butler speaks with Kim Pochon, Global Head of Primary Investments at Unigestion, and Joe Briggs, Founder of BCF, to explore what it really takes to build a successful first-time private equity fund. With LP appetite growing for new franchises, this episode unpacks the strategic, structural, and psychological factors that separate enduring platforms from short-lived experiments. 🧱 Why “Emerging” Doesn’t Mean InexperiencedMost “emerging managers” are seasoned investors; what’s new is their journey into firm-building. While GPs may dislike the label, it matters deeply to LPs allocating to this segment. 💡 Early Access = Long-Term AdvantageBacking a first-time fund is about more than returns, it’s about gaining long-term partners. Kim Pochon shares how Unigestion’s early bets have evolved into deep collaborations across continuation vehicles, co-investments, and secondaries. 🛠️ The Rise of Independent Sponsors and Hybrid FundsJoe Briggs outlines how deal-by-deal models, mini-funds, and short-duration strategies are allowing first-time managers to build track records and LP trust, without raising blind pool capital on Day 1. 👥 Team Dynamics: The Critical Risk FactorStrategy is important, but people matter more. LPs scrutinise equity splits, decision-making processes, and team chemistry. Execution risk is often people risk. 🔥 Why Founders Spin Out, and What Sets Them ApartFrom high-paid roles to high-risk launches, Joe and Kim explore what drives professionals to strike out on their own, and why the best emerging managers have a clear purpose and strong conviction. 📈 “Know Why You Deserve to Exist”As Briggs puts it, emerging GPs must clearly articulate why their platform should exist, what differentiates it, and how it delivers value to LPs from Day 1. 🔗 Fund Shack is an independent podcast serving the global private capital industry. ✅ Share this episode with your network, it's the most valuable way to help us grow🎧 Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube or your preferred platform📄 Prefer to consume your podcast as a newsletter summary? 👉 fund-shack.substack.com 🌐 Visit: www.fund-shack.com 📧 Got a guest idea? Want to sponsor an episode? Email: katie@linearb.media Fund Shack is produced by Linear B Group Tags emerging managers, first-time funds, private equity, GP spinout, fundless sponsor, Unigestion, BCF, private equity podcast, Fund Shack, Ross Butler, LP allocations, fundraising, private markets, private capital, institutional investors, evergreen funds, independent sponsor model, PE fund structure, LP/GP alignment, continuation vehicles

    42 min

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Private equity, venture capital and alternative investments - long-form podcasts with industry leaders Dive into in-depth conversations with industry leaders and gain exclusive insights into the world of private capital. 🎙️Fund Shack is dedicated to providing thought-provoking, authentic discussions with the most respected private capital managers, asset managers, professional advisers, & thought leaders. Our long-form interviews are unscripted, ensuring genuine & enriching conversations. Hosted by Ross Butler, 25 years in the private capital industry.

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