Future Learning Design Podcast

Tim Logan

We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that were built for a world that no longer exists. Within education, passionate entrepreneurs & committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they're designing & building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge. This podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to join the movement to help nurture positive change.

  1. Deep Collaboration is Transforming Higher Education in Africa - A Conversation with Rose A. Dodd

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    Deep Collaboration is Transforming Higher Education in Africa - A Conversation with Rose A. Dodd

    Collaboration, whether it's between young people in a classroom or between institutions across an educational ecosystem, is often seen as an unquestioned virtue. An assumed aspect of people simply working together on a shared purpose, but without much thought given to how it happens in meaningful and deep ways to generate genuinely expanded possibilities for everyone. Rose A. Dodd and her team at The Education Collaborative have been showing how this is done at a massive scale across Africa, for the last decade. Rose joined me this week to share what she and her network have been learning about how deep radical collaboration can really shift and transform systems across a whole continent. Rose is a strategic leader mobilizing Africa’s higher education sector at a critical moment, when the continent’s youth population is rapidly growing, yet tertiary enrolment remains the lowest in the world. As Executive Director of The Education Collaborative, a pan-African initiative launched by Ashesi University in 2017, Rose leads a peer-driven network that has engaged over 400 institutions across the continent. Under her leadership, the Collaborative is driving transformation in teaching, institutional practices, and graduate outcomes—impacting hundreds of thousands of students, with a goal to reach one million by 2030.With deep expertise in strategy and stakeholder alignment, she develops scalable models for institutional collaboration and system-wide improvement. Rose is driven by a commitment to social innovation and is shaping the future of African higher education by building the systems, networks, and models that enable institutions to lead transformative change at scale. About The Education Collaborative: The Education Collaborative spearheads a collective engagement model that promises to transform higher education outcomes in sub-Saharan Africa. This initiative uses a network approach to build trust and foster collective commitments among higher education leaders and stakeholders to generate sustainable results within the systems they govern and influence. Central to this pioneering movement is a membership model that promotes open engagement, sharing, and community accountability among participating institutions. Website: https://educationcollab.ashesi.edu.ghGiving Voice to Values Africa: https://educationcollab.ashesi.edu.gh/ehub/ecourse/giving-voice-to-values-africa Read our latest Impact Stories Publication: https://educationcollab.ashesi.edu.gh/impact-stories-publication-issue-2 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-education-collaborative-network YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theeducationcollaborative Reach us via email: education.collaborative@ashesi.edu.gh

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  2. Transformative Education for the Future of Ukraine - A Conversation with Yuliia Naidych, Marie Teich and Anastasia Tarasova

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    Transformative Education for the Future of Ukraine - A Conversation with Yuliia Naidych, Marie Teich and Anastasia Tarasova

    How do we as educators respond in times of urgency and conflict? Not just in teaching, but also in exploring potentially transformative ideas and practices; in such moments of great challenge but also lots of opportunity. I had the huge privilege this week to talk with 3 amazing young people who doing just that in the context of the on-going conflict after the full-scale invasion of Ukraine just over 4 years ago. Yuliia Naidych, Marie Teich and Anastasia Tarasova have responded to these questions in deeply inspiring ways to develop what they are calling Third Floor, The Centre for Transformative Research. It's an emergent organisation that I first heard about from Ivo Mensch's article in Perspectiva. They are inquiring into questions about how to prevent the "brain drain" of young inspiring researchers leaving Ukraine for opportunities in other universities around the world, but also how to build bridges between the academic ivory tower and the world of practitioners in entrepreneurship local government and other sectors around Ukraine. And even what does it mean to do research in transformative ways that might support and enable some new ways of being and acting in the world. Third Floor, Centre for Transformative Research Links: Facebook page: facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562317967411  Instagram: instagram.com/third_floooor?igsh=ZWQxano1eW93a2g1&utm_source=qr  Summer School website: summerschool-transformativeresearch.com  YouTube: www.youtube.com/@Третійповерх  Yuliia Naidych: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuliia-naidych-799b39201/  Marie Teich: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marie-teich-4714371b1/  Anastasia Tarasova: MA in Philosophy from V.N. Karazin Kharkiv National University, co-organiser of the summer school. Ivo Mensch’s article in Perspectiva, ‘The Pedagogy of Urgency’: https://perspecteeva.substack.com/p/the-pedagogy-of-urgency

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  3. Taming the Turbulence in Educational Leadership - A Conversation with Jennifer D. Klein

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    Taming the Turbulence in Educational Leadership - A Conversation with Jennifer D. Klein

    Educational leadership is a tough challenge at the best of times, with many pressures from all sides. But particularly now, with so much shifting, high levels of uncertainty, and polarising issues at play, it’s arguably an even rougher sea to navigate. In such a context, my guest this week has done an amazing job of gathering vital insights from 67 amazing education leaders around the world, herself included, to bring some collective wisdom to bear on the subject.  Jennifer D. Klein is an author and former head of school with extensive international experience and over 30 years in education--including 19 in the classroom. She is a product of experiential project-based education herself, and she lives and breathes the student-centred pedagogies used to educate her. She became a teacher during graduate school in 1990, quickly finding the intersection between her love of writing and her fascination with educational transformation and its potential impact on social change. She spent nineteen years in the classroom, including several years in Costa Rica and eleven in all-girls education, before leaving the classroom to support educators’ professional learning in public, private, and international schools. Motivated by her belief that all children deserve a meaningful, relevant education like the one she experienced herself, and that giving them such an education will catalyze positive change in their communities and beyond, Jennifer strives to inspire educators to shift their practices in schools worldwide. Jennifer has a broad background in global education and global partnership development, student-centered curricular strategies, diversity and inclusivity work, authentic assessment, and experiential, inquiry-driven learning. She has facilitated workshops in English and Spanish on four continents, providing the strategies for high-quality, globally connected project-based learning in all cultural and socioeconomic contexts, with an emphasis on amplifying student voice and shifting school culture to support such practices. She is committed to intersecting global student-centered learning with culturally responsive and anti-racist teaching practices, and her experience includes deep work with schools seeking to address equity, take on brave conversations, build healthier community, and improve identity politics on campus.  Jennifer’s first book, The Global Education Guidebook: Humanizing K–12 Classrooms Worldwide Through Equitable Partnerships, was published in 2017, and her second book, The Landscape Model of Learning: Designing Student-Centered Experiences for Cognitive and Cultural Inclusion, was released in 2022. Her third book, Taming the Turbulence in Educational Leadership: Doing Right by Learners without Losing your Job, to be released in September, 2025, is based on interviews with 67 educational leaders around the world who are facing resistance to practices they know are good for learners. Jennifer's experiences as a head of school in Colombia provide a through line as she explores the strategies leaders are using to manage resistance. Jennifer has worked with organizations such as the Buck Institute for Education, the Center for Global Education at the Asia Society, The Institute for International Education, Fulbright Japan, What School Could Be, the Centre for Global Education, TakingITGlobal, and the World Leadership School. Most recently, she served as Head of School at Gimnasio Los Caobos (Bogotá, Colombia) for three years, where she was able to put her educational thinking into practice with profound impact on the quality of student learning and their growth as agents of change. Links: Jennifer’s website: https://www.principledlearning.org/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdeborahklein/

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  4. Can AI reduce teacher workload in Iceland’s schools? A Conversation with Þórdís Jóna Sigurðardóttir

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    Can AI reduce teacher workload in Iceland’s schools? A Conversation with Þórdís Jóna Sigurðardóttir

    This is the first part of a 4-part series exploring the ways in which artificial intelligence is impacting the lives of teachers and young people around the world, through the lens of Anthropic’s recently announced partnerships. In this episode, I talked with Þórdís Jóna Sigurðardóttir, the Director of the Directorate of Education and School Services in Iceland who is exploring the implications of AI for teachers' workload and working conditions, in partnership with Anthropic, Google and the Icelandic Teachers’ Union (KI). I was struck by how  significant the learning focus of this pilot was, with a genuine openness to be both careful and curious in exploring the implications of AI in a country with diverse learning needs, and contrasting school contexts, both urban and very rural, in a historically very decentralised system.  Þórdís Jóna is Director of the Directorate of Education and School Services. The Directorate of Education and School Services, active since April 2024 and taking over from the previous Directorate of Educations, plays a key role in promoting the education system in Iceland and implementing the government’s education policy. Þórdís Jóna holds a BA in Political Science and an MA in Sociology from the University of Iceland, an MBA from Vlerick Business School, and a leadership and policy implementation program from Harvard Business School. Links: https://island.is/s/midstod-menntunar-og-skolathjonustu https://www.csee-etuce.org/en/item/4428:icelands-ai-pilot-in-education-what-it-really-means-for-teachershttps://island.is/en/o/directorate-of-education-and-school-services/news/a-turning-point-in-icelandic-schooling  https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-and-iceland-announce-one-of-the-world-s-first-national-ai-education-pilots

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  5. Teach for All's AI for Collective Leadership - A Conversation with Stephen Jull

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    Teach for All's AI for Collective Leadership - A Conversation with Stephen Jull

    This is the third episode in this 4-part series exploring the ways in which artificial intelligence is impacting the lives of teachers and young people around the world, through the lens of recently announced partnerships with Anthropic. In this episode, I explored Teach for All’s thoughtful approach to these big questions with Global Head of AI and Edtech, Stephen Jull. How is collective leadership in Teach for All’s 63 country contexts enhanced and extended by the creative use of free frontier AI models (and really dynamic WhatsApp communities!)? And how are they holding critical questions of equity, access and data sovereignty as they build communities of educators across the globe as co-architects of AI pedagogies and of the models themselves. Stephen is the Global Head of AI and Educational Technology at Teach For All. Following an early career teaching in remote communities of Canada’s far north, Stephen earned his PhD at the University of Cambridge as a Commonwealth Trust Scholar and has spent over 15 years building teams and strategic partnerships to deliver educational technology innovations at scale. Stephen was a co-founder of GeoGebra, one of the world's leading provider of dynamic math education software. And he has supported many young entrepreneurs and high-impact, high-growth startups and scaleups in roles such as as Visiting Fellow at the University of Cambridge Judge Business School and Entrepreneur in Residence with Founders at Cambridge Enterprise.

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  6. Shaping Africa’s AI Generation - A Conversation with Kavi Ramburn and Stefan Coetzee

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    Shaping Africa’s AI Generation - A Conversation with Kavi Ramburn and Stefan Coetzee

    This is the first part of a 4-part series exploring the ways in which AI tools are impacting the lives of teachers and young people around the world. In this episode, I talked with Kavi Ramburn and Stefan Coetzee from ALX Africa about their amazing work bringing professional foundational competencies programmes to young people across Africa through in-person hubs and online course offerings. They have recently announced a big partnership with Anthropic and the Government of Rwanda, so I was keen to talk with them about how this will boost their mission in introducing “Chidi,” an AI-powered learning companion built to scaffold critical thinking and problem-solving about and with AI, to learners and educators across Africa and beyond. Kavi is Vice President of Learning at ALX Africa. He has an extensive background in learning, research and sustainable development economics, and advocacy for social impact across many sectors. Stefan is AI Innovation Lead at ALX Africa spearheading AI product research and early life cycle product development. He has a huge depth of knowledge as a data scientist, content developer and educator. From the presse release from ALX Africa: “Funding and Partnership  Anthropic will cover LLM/API-related costs to support the deployment of Chidi and Claude access. ALX will contribute the training, delivery, and implementation infrastructure, ensuring smooth rollout and educator enablement. The Government of Rwanda—through the Ministries of Education and ICT—will provide policy guidance, institutional support, and access to schools, but will not bear any financial commitments under this partnership.“ More info:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kavi-ramburn-57212475/  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/designing-learning-millions-vision-kavi-ramburn-alxafrica-7vrvf/  https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-rwanda-mou https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/rwanda-signs-mou-with-us-ai-company-anthropic-across-health-education-public-sectors/3832953 https://www.devex.com/news/is-anthropic-building-rwanda-s-ai-future-or-its-dependence-111946 https://www.edtechinnovationhub.com/news/anthropic-rwanda-and-alx-roll-out-chidi-ai-learning-companion-across-africa

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  7. Strange Times for Educational Futures - A Conversation with Prof. Keri Facer

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    Strange Times for Educational Futures - A Conversation with Prof. Keri Facer

    This week on the podcast we’re time travelling with the fabulous Professor Keri Facer. How we think about the future or futures makes a difference to the decisions we make in schools today, and Keri has been asking critically important questions about educational futures, pasts and presents for the last 20 years, that are still as important today as they were when she published her brilliant 2011 book ‘Learning Futures: Education, Technology and Social Change’. Prof. Keri Facer is Professor of Educational and Social Futures at the University of Bristol, UK where she leads the British Academy ‘Times of a Just Transition’ Programme, which brings together scholars from 6 continents and 14 disciplines, to explore how temporal assumptions, frames and processes structure the possibility of just transitions. She is also Co-investigator on the ESRC Centre for Sociodigital Futures, where she works on the implications of mixed reality tools for collective imagination. Keri is also Professor of Public Education at Black Mountains College, led by recent podcast guest, Ben Rawlence: https://www.goodimpactlabs.com/podcast/ben-rawlence. Keri was previously Zennström Professor in Climate Change Leadership at Uppsala University, expert advisory group member of UNESCO’s Futures of Education Commission and Research Director at Futurelab. Keri is collaborating with the poverty charity, the Joseph Rowntree foundation, on their ‘imagination infrastructure’ programme and is Editor-in-Chief of the journal Futures. Keri is also a co-Investigator of Transforming Education for Sustainable Futures: https://tesf.network/  In 2026, she is consolidating this work in three landmark publications:  Chronoberg: a handbook of creative methods for temporal imagination (with Johannes Stripple);  ‘Time & Possibility: A Field Guide’ (with Harriet Hand); and  Temporal Justice, a Special Issue for the Journal of Global Social Challenges.  Keri’s books include ‘Learning Futures: Education, Technology and Social Change’ and ‘Working with Time in Qualitative Research’. She is joint Editor-in-Chief of the Journal ‘Futures’ and she edits the Routledge Book Series on ‘Futures and Anticipation’ with Prof Johan Siebers. Keri’s personal website: https://kerifacer.wordpress.com/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/keri-facer-2a11b62/ https://www.temporalimagination.org/ https://www.conversationsociety.org/home https://www.jrf.org.uk/imagination-infrastructures/educating-the-ecological-imagination-the-work-of-black-mountains https://www.routledge.com/Learning-Futures-Education-Technology-and-Social-Change/Facer/p/book/9780415581431

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We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that were built for a world that no longer exists. Within education, passionate entrepreneurs & committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they're designing & building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge. This podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to join the movement to help nurture positive change.

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