Futureproof Founder Podcast

Jeff Mains
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Futureproof Founder is the podcast for founders and executive leaders scaling companies from startup to $30M and beyond. Hosted by five-time founder Jeff Mains, each episode delivers real-world leadership insights, hard-earned lessons, and practical strategies for navigating growth. Tuesdays feature candid founder stories. Thursdays bring actionable playbooks from top operators and experts on AI, go-to-market, team building, leadership, and more. Real stories. Real decisions. Practical intelligence for what comes next.

  1. 5d ago

    438 | Why $600 Billion in AI Spending Is the Biggest Inflection Point in Human History | Brett Hurt

    AI could help create unprecedented abundance, or amplify the fear and scarcity already shaping society. The difference won’t come from technology alone. It will come from the choices leaders make with it. In this episode, Brett Hurt explores conscious capitalism, human agency, and what it takes to build companies that last in the AI era. The conversation focused on why thin software layers may not endure, why durable companies need proprietary data, services, and a deeply human connection, and how founders can lead without letting fear dictate every decision. It also covered practical guidance on validating a real market, finding the right technical expertise, and building for the long term. Key Takeaways00:00 Challenges of Modern Capitalism 06:11 Impact of social media algorithms 07:16 Discussing the opioid crisis impact 13:21 Global village and social connections 16:20 Historic challenges for women in politics 18:39 Harnessing solar energy potential 21:36 Discussing people's outlook on the future 26:51 Self-worth and forgiveness journey 29:54 Being open to new ideas 31:02 Ego and fear in evolution 36:38 Rapid Revenue Growth and Leadership 39:36 Finding personal agency and influence 41:45 Finding personal awakening 46:41 Avoiding the comparison trap 47:25 Admiring Warren Buffett's humanity 52:53 The importance of human connection 55:44 Promoting book and newsletter 01:00:03 Upcoming Founder-Led episode preview Tweetable QuotesThe Lie Founders Are Sold: Anyone who tells you to sacrifice one for the other is just selling something. [00:01:29 → 00:01:32] AI Capitalism’s High-Stakes Reckoning: And the stakes of continuing that into an AI-powered world are different than they used to be, especially because things are going so fast. [00:03:09 → 00:03:16] AI’s Real Enemy Isn’t AI: His argument is that fear-based, scarcity-driven thinking is the real enemy, not AI, and that founders and leaders who understand that will shape what comes next. [00:03:53 → 00:04:02] AI’s Biggest Choice: Fear or Abundance: AI can either amplify fear or unlock an age of abundance, and that the difference is a choice. [00:17:25 → 00:17:30] Building Big Without Sacrificing Family: Share this episode with a founder building something significant who still makes it home for dinner, maybe even every night. [00:58:24 → 00:58:57] Scarcity Is the Story We Tell Ourselves: But it's not just about energy. It's that scarcity is the story we tell ourselves, not the actual condition that we're in. [00:59:13 → 00:59:20] Why Targeted Views Beat Viral Reach: "300 views from the right buyers beats 50,000 random ones" [01:00:35 → 01:00:39] SaaS Leadership LessonsValidate the market before building the product. The discussion stressed starting with a real customer problem and confirming that customers will pay before falling in love with the technology Thin software layers won’t stay durable. Products without proprietary data, meaningful services, or a strong human component may be overtaken by frontier AI models. Build something customers genuinely need help to accomplish. Pair AI-built products with technical depth. Vibe coding can accelerate development, but leadership still needs technical expertise to secure the product, fix bugs, and maintain the codebase Lead through uncertainty without spreading panic. During the dot-com bust, one company’s customer base fell from 100 to 3. The response was to hold the line, pause hiring, and avoid layoffs while rebuilding. Fear can identify risk, but it shouldn’t make the decisions for you. Build a company around service, not just software. Durable companies help customers navigate a journey they can’t complete as effectively alone. Learning from many customers also creates patterns and playbooks that individual customers may not see Your inputs shape your leadership. The conversation connected better decisions with gaining agency over what enters your mind, including replacing constant outrage with material that builds perspective and hope. Leaders bring that internal state into their teams, customers, and decisions. Guest Resourcesbretthurt@gmail.com https://www.loveconquersfear.org/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bretthurt Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    438 | Why $600 Billion in AI Spending Is the Biggest Inflection Point in Human History | Brett Hurt

  2. Nov 3

    437 | Payment Processing Fees: How Merchants Can Make Processors Compete | Viktor Popovics

    In this conversation, Viktor Popovic shares his journey from being a refugee in Yugoslavia to becoming a successful entrepreneur in the e-commerce space. He discusses the challenges he faced while transitioning from a career in aviation to starting an online business selling pressure washers. Viktor reflects on the ups and downs of running his business for over two decades, including the impact of changing market conditions and the decision to sell his company. He also delves into the identity crisis many founders face post-exit and his new venture in the payment processing industry, aiming to bring transparency and competition to a traditionally opaque market. In this conversation, Viktor Popovic discusses the competitive landscape of payment processing, emphasizing the importance of transparency and the ability for merchants to access the best rates. He explains the onboarding process for merchants and how they can benefit from a platform that connects them with various payment processors. Viktor shares insights from his previous ventures, highlighting the significance of strategic planning and the value of working with trusted partners, including family members. He also addresses the importance of fostering a team culture that encourages ownership and engagement, and concludes with key advice for founders regarding decision-making and evaluating processing rates. Key Takeaways00:00 Introduction and Background 01:54 Transitioning from Aviation to E-commerce 05:37 Challenges and Growth in E-commerce 09:02 Life After the Exit12:31 Identity and Purpose Post-Exit 13:08 The Payment Processing Dilemma 21:34 Building a Unique Business Model 23:30 Understanding Competitive Pricing in Payment Processing 26:06 Simplifying Merchant Onboarding and Payment Processing 29:51 Lessons from Previous Ventures: Strategic Planning and Execution 32:52 Building a Family Business: Roles and Responsibilities 37:16 Fostering Team Ownership and Engagement 41:22 Key Insights for Founders: Learning from Experience SaaS Leadership LessonsInnovative business models can disrupt traditional industries. Experience from previous ventures informs new business strategies. Transparency in payment processing is essential for merchants. Merchants don't need to understand all the logistics of payment processing. The model of charging processors instead of merchants is refreshing. Guest Resourcesvictorp@avendo.tech https://www.avendo.tech https://www.linkedin.com/in/viktor-popovic-b8a6b416/ Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    437 | Payment Processing Fees: How Merchants Can Make Processors Compete | Viktor Popovics

  3. Oct 29

    436 | The Founder's Guide to SaaS Pricing in the AI Era: Seat-Based, Usage-Based, or Hybrid? | Roee Hartuv

    AI didn’t just change the product. It changed the cost structure underneath it. Classical SaaS could run at 85% to 95% gross margins because serving the next customer cost almost nothing. With AI, every interaction carries real compute cost, and a small group of heavy users can quietly turn profitable growth into daily losses. This conversation explores how founders should rethink pricing and packaging, why hybrid models may offer the right balance between predictability and usage, and what it takes to price around jobs to be done instead of feature lists. You’ll also hear why outcome-based pricing is harder than it sounds, how often pricing should be reviewed, and how an AI-generated pricing table nearly created a $1,000-a-year tier for a company selling to mid-market customers at $12,000 a year. If AI is part of your product, your pricing can’t stay static. Key Takeaways00:00 AI and pricing challenges 03:13 Roi Artuv on AI and SaaS Pricing 08:05 Profitability challenges with AI features 12:57 Hybrid pricing model discussion 15:57 Changing model costs and usage 18:06 Assessing AI service costs 21:51 Understanding packaging in sales 25:31 Understanding AI Unit Economics 29:34 Importance of annual price increases 34:08 Creating a new product pricing strategy 37:54 Understanding unit economics in AI 41:36 Turning frustration into merchant leverage 42:35 Shifting from scarcity mindset Tweetable QuotesThe “Magical” Growth Lever: getting your pricing and packaging right. [00:04:53 → 00:04:54] AI Can Destroy SaaS Profitability: Yeah, that means that you're going into a profitability problem. [00:08:05 → 00:08:09] The Revenue Forecasting Crisis: How are we going to forecast our revenue? We don't know. [00:13:36 → 00:13:40] AI Pricing: And then go to your customers and actually ask them, what is the value that this new feature AI agent created for you? [00:18:41 → 00:18:48] Personalized Pricing Strategy: "I'm gonna introduce how we package that product." [00:20:10 → 00:20:12] Why Value Selling Needs Packaging: If you don't have the right packaging to support that conversation, then you can never do that. [00:22:11 → 00:22:16] Pricing Is Never Static: “requires us to more often revisit pricing” [00:27:29 → 00:27:33] Why Enterprise Customers Shouldn’t Vibe Code: "enterprise customers should not vibe code. It's too dangerous for their organization." [00:32:59 → 00:33:04] Claude’s Pricing Strategy Was “Spot On”: She came with a pricing strategy that Claude created. It was spot on. [00:34:32 → 00:34:35] SaaS Leadership Lessons1. **Assign clear pricing ownership.** Pricing needs one accountable owner and regular reviews as the product and market change. [39:00] 2. **Measure AI unit economics by user.** Heavy users can quietly erase margins, so track cost and profitability at the individual-user level. [26:04] 3. **Consider hybrid pricing.** Combine a recurring base fee with usage-based charges to balance predictability and serving costs. [12:57] 4. **Test before adopting outcome-based pricing.** Customer outcomes vary, so validate the value with a small group before rebuilding your model. [18:06] 5. **Package around jobs to be done.** Feature-based tiers invite discounting. Packages tied to customer goals support stronger value conversations. [21:51] 6. **Review pricing whenever the business changes.** Revisit it after product launches and during long sales cycles. Track usage, churn, win-loss data, and margins. [28:10] Guest Resourcesroee@willingnesstopay.com www.willingnesstopay.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/roeehartuv/ Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    436 | The Founder's Guide to SaaS Pricing in the AI Era: Seat-Based, Usage-Based, or Hybrid? | Roee Hartuv

  4. Oct 27

    435 | The VC Incentives Every Founder Must Understand Before Taking Institutional Money | Calvin Cooper

    Most founders don’t realize what changes when venture capital enters the business. A $5 million check returning $50 million may sound like a win, but for a large fund, that outcome can still fall short. Before taking institutional capital, understand the fund’s economics, return expectations, and the growth trajectory you’re agreeing to pursue. This episode explores venture finance, Rove’s path from idea to public company, and the pressure to go bigger when profitable growth isn’t enough for the backers. The conversation also turns to AI inference, where task-specific systems can cut costs from tens of thousands of dollars to hundreds per month. The through line is simple: understand the other side of the table, stay curious, and build what lasts. Key Takeaways00:00 Understanding VC Fund Mechanics 06:18 Working at Apple retail 07:49 Deciding to become a venture capitalist 13:11 Taking unconventional paths to success 14:02 Understanding Venture Capital Dynamics 17:45 Deciding to pursue the dream 23:07 Understanding venture capital suitability 23:57 Understanding Venture Capital Basics 29:20 Trends and opportunities in venture capital 32:10 Forming a tech startup team 34:34 Early product development stages 37:54 Challenges of scaling AI models 42:27 Understanding the importance of empathy 45:06 Promoting personal and company projects 48:11 VC expectations and future-proofing Tweetable Quotes“Entrepreneurship is water and you're a fish and you just swim.” [06:10] “I assumed the field doesn't want me.” [09:50] “You don't need a job or a status symbol credential or permission to do most things today.” [15:10] “Your identity can precede status labels in the world.” [14:52] “If you don't run the business, then I'm out.” [17:40] “Ship the product and get a dollar.” [22:14] “The buyers are liars.” [22:31] “Is this the right source of capital for you?” [23:07] “Raising venture capital isn't the goal. It's an enabler.” [28:12] “Most inference requests don't need frontier capability.” [31:36] “You really can't have something that's the smartest, fastest, and cheapest.” [33:07] “Ask yourself where you're not being curious.” [43:33] SaaS Leadership Lessons1. Understand investor incentives: A $5 million check returning $50 million may still fall short for a large venture fund. Know what your backers need. 2. Match capital to ambition: Venture capital fits companies pursuing very large outcomes. It isn’t the right path for every profitable business. 3. Ship early: At the zero-to-one stage, the product is the survey. Get something into customers’ hands and earn the first dollar. 4. Filter feedback: Take useful input seriously, reject what doesn’t fit, and move quickly on the rest. 5. Ask where curiosity is missing: That question exposes weak assumptions about customers, markets, and decisions. 6. Optimize for the job, not the biggest model: Most AI workloads don’t need frontier capability. Task-specific systems can cut costs while maintaining performance. Guest Resourceshttps://legendarypodcasts.com/calvin-cooper/ Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    435 | The VC Incentives Every Founder Must Understand Before Taking Institutional Money | Calvin Cooper

  5. Oct 22

    434 | Founder Identity Crisis: How to Let Go, Scale, and Build a Legacy That Outlasts You | Hanna Bauer

    Seventy percent of digital transformations fail, and the software usually isn’t the problem. The people, processes, and culture weren’t ready for the change. In this episode, Hanna Bauer explains why every system needs a “human API,” how asking for feedback without following up destroys psychological safety, and why founders must decide whether they’re building a successful company or one that can succeed without them. She also shares how to stay anchored in identity while adapting to disruption, changing markets, and new technology. Key Takeaways00:00 Discussing human API and feedback 06:15 Learning financial agility during disruption 09:16 Google's Project Aristotle findings 11:16 Importance of acting on feedback 15:00 Founder vision and succession planning 18:57 Resistance to New Tools 21:42 Discussing governance and technology adoption 25:01 Addressing communication and tech silos 28:22 Chasing funding at nonprofits 30:55 Adapting to industry disruption 34:47 Leadership and succession planning 37:10 Teaching organizational core method 41:03 Understanding Business Development Stages 44:57 Addressing communication and feedback issues 46:57 Aligning business decisions Tweetable Quotes“My friction was really the opportunity for the traction.” Hanna Bauer 05:14 “An increase in income did not necessarily mean an increase in profitability.” Hanna Bauer 06:43 “You can get really stuck in the details and miss the forest by just looking at the tree.” Hanna Bauer 07:35 “Whenever you do ask the question, I’m very much interested in the answer and I’m going to follow up.” Hanna Bauer 12:02 “The question isn’t whether your company is successful, it’s whether it can succeed without you.” Jeff Mains 03:15 “You’re not going to have something you don’t adopt.” Hanna Bauer 21:42 “I’m not going to adopt something that doesn’t look and feel and work like me.” Hanna Bauer 21:50 “The smallest of action will always trample the greatest of intention.” Hanna Bauer 38:27 “You have to know your season.” Hanna Bauer 42:08 “I cannot lead my people where I don’t know where we’re going.” Hanna Bauer 42:01 “If people are not responding to my overall call for feedback, I need to own that.” Hanna Bauer 45:36 “Success happens to you. Significance happens through you.” Hanna Bauer 14:24 SaaS Leadership LessonsDesign the human API before choosing the tool. Hanna Bauer says the real question isn’t whether software works. It’s whether people can integrate it into their daily work. Without that connection, resistance and workarounds follow Treat feedback as a commitment. Asking for employee input and then going silent actively damages psychological safety. Leaders need to explain how ideas were evaluated, why some weren’t selected, and what happens next Build psychological safety through clear support systems. People need to know where to go with questions, how feedback is handled, and what follow-up looks like. Hanna Bauer compares this support structure to a spine that helps the whole organization function 10:09. Fix the process before forcing the software to fit. Start by identifying pain, waste, and duplicate work. Then adapt the tool to remove unnecessary steps instead of preserving inefficient processes simply because they’re familiar Keep identity stable while methods change. Hanna Bauer compares organizational culture to personal character. Processes, tools, and market approaches may change, but the company’s mission, values, and purpose should guide which opportunities it accepts Build a company that can make decisions without the founder. Founders need to give leaders a clear lens for decision-making through vision, mission, and values. That’s how teams make sound choices without sending every decision back to the founder Guest Resourceshanna@heartnomics.com https://heartnomics.com https://facebook.com/hannad.bauer http://www.linkedin.com/in/bauerhanna https://www.instagram.com/hannabauer777/ Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    434 | Founder Identity Crisis: How to Let Go, Scale, and Build a Legacy That Outlasts You | Hanna Bauer

  6. Oct 20

    433 | How to Disrupt a Dinosaur Industry: Gun Storage, Creative Conflict, and the Band of Misfits | Tom Kubiniec

    What do you do when your revenue disappears completely? After eight months without a single order, Tom Kubiniec was preparing to sell his house to keep the business alive. Instead of doubling down on the same market, he found a $700 million consumer opportunity behind an $11 million defense market. In this episode, Tom explains why he avoids competitor research when solving a new problem, how “why do we have mice?” beats building a better mousetrap, and why creative conflict helps his team move faster. He also shares what happened when he shut off $30,000 a month in Google Ads and saw no change in traffic or sales. This is a conversation about pressure, purpose, fast course correction, and building a company around a problem worth solving. Key Takeaways00:00 Discovering a $700M market 06:07 Switching from music to sales 08:23 Landing US Army contract 11:25 Reflecting on business challenges 14:44 The mindset of true entrepreneurs 17:43 Creative problem-solving approach 23:10 Modern threat: shift in break-ins 24:02 Discussing gun safe security issues 29:12 Encouraging Open Dialogue at Securit 31:34 Reflecting on marketing struggles 35:31 Empowering employees and valuing creativity 38:17 Questioning ad campaign results 40:57 Challenges of managing digital marketing 44:23 Mission to secure firearms safely 48:39 Engineering a high-speed small car 50:21 Rethinking business challenges Tweetable Quotes“Making money is a perk.” Tom Kubiniec 00:00 “The win is getting the order.” Tom Kubiniec 00:30 “Sometimes you don’t see the future properly unless your back’s against the wall.” Tom Kubiniec 10:55 “When your back’s against the wall, you see things differently.” Tom Kubiniec 11:18 “You have to love that battle.” Tom Kubiniec 14:08 “Every successful person is just jumping from failure to failure.” Tom Kubiniec 14:16 “The worst thing you can do is think about things too long.” Tom Kubiniec 14:30 “It’s not who’s right, it’s what’s right.” Tom Kubiniec 30:08 “The last thing I want to do is see what others have done.” Tom Kubiniec 17:52 “We didn’t know there was a box.” Tom Kubiniec 17:52 “Why do we have mice?” Tom Kubiniec 19:39 “If we solve the problem, we don’t need a mousetrap.” Tom Kubiniec 19:43 “Quirkiness is an asset in my world.” Tom Kubiniec 31:00 “I don’t have a problem admitting I’m wrong. In fact, sometimes it’s fun.” Tom Kubiniec 33:28 “Why do I do this?” Tom Kubiniec 44:12 “The what can sell, can run a company, but the why can change the world.” Tom Kubiniec 44:23 “You can build a company that lasts and live a life worth remembering.” Jeff Mains 01:43 “Don’t deny yourself the struggle.” Jeff Mains 51:12 SaaS Leadership LessonsSolve the underlying problem, not the visible symptom. Tom Kubiniec challenges founders to stop asking how to “build a better mousetrap” and ask, “Why do we have mice?” Start with the root problem before improving the existing solution Let constraints force better thinking. After eight months without an order, Tom moved from military storage into consumer products and found a much larger market. His lesson: “When your back’s against the wall, you see things differently” Fail fast, then course-correct. Tom Kubiniec says his company makes decisions quickly. If the decision is wrong, the team adjusts. Waiting too long creates its own risk Build a culture where people can challenge leadership. Tom tells new employees that he makes mistakes and needs people to speak up. His standard is simple: “It’s not who’s right, it’s what’s right” Don’t confuse personal taste with performance. An outside agency created ads Tom disliked, but the campaigns produced strong results. He accepted that the work performed better than his own preference and let the data decide Give the company a purpose beyond revenue. For Tom, money is a byproduct. Secure-It’s purpose is to change how America stores firearms, and the win is seeing customers realize the product solves the problem better Guest Resources tom@secureittactical.com https://www.secureitgunstorage.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkubiniec/ Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    433 | How to Disrupt a Dinosaur Industry: Gun Storage, Creative Conflict, and the Band of Misfits | Tom Kubiniec

  7. Oct 15

    432 | How Cross-Functional Alignment Prevents Costly Project Failures | Deborah Kaminetzky

    A software implementation can be delivered on time and on budget, then fail the moment people refuse to use it. In this episode, Jeff Mains talks with Deborah Kaminetzky, founder of De Facto Project Management, about the gap between what companies buy and what their teams actually need. Deborah explains why adoption belongs in the project plan from day one, how secret spreadsheets expose broken processes, and why the people using the system every day need a voice before anything gets built. They also tackle sales-to-delivery misalignment, change management, custom development, AI-built tools, data ownership, security, and the real cost of maintenance. Because technology can’t fix a broken process. It can only make the break easier to automate. Key Takeaways00:00 Build vs. buy in tech decisions 04:58 Reflecting on career path decisions 06:59 Translating between software and client 11:20 Importance of early training integration 13:49 Gathering input from all levels 19:35 Dealing with SaaS integrations 20:29 Documenting Processes and Risk Management 25:16 Ensuring client project understanding 28:12 Navigating client project expansion 31:10 Importance of Client Understanding 35:47 Choosing the right SaaS provider 39:17 App security vulnerabilities 42:11 Importance of preparing clients 46:11 Upcoming founder and playbook episodes 47:02 Introduction to Future Proof Founder Tweetable Quotes- “On time and on budget are nice, but adoption is the main thing.” Deborah Kaminetzky [09:23] - “Technology won’t fix bad processes, and it definitely won’t fix communication.” Deborah Kaminetzky [08:26] - “If you don’t build what they need and what they’re going to use, they won’t adopt it.” Deborah Kaminetzky [09:23] - “You need to consider training and adoption at the very beginning.” Deborah Kaminetzky [11:20] - “No company should be running with really important information in somebody’s head.” Deborah Kaminetzky [17:29] - “You have to take risks because those are also opportunities.” Deborah Kaminetzky [21:25] - “I don’t mince words. I’m not going to be like, ‘Oh, okay, fine.’” Deborah Kaminetzky [22:47] - “Just because somebody can do it for you does not mean they’re going to be able to maintain it.” Deborah Kaminetzky [35:02] - “Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.” Deborah Kaminetzky [40:09] - “Software is never done.” Jeff Mains [40:19] - “You need to know what you’re getting into.” Deborah Kaminetzky [43:22] - “Technology can’t fix a broken process. It just makes the break easier to automate.” Jeff Mains [46:08] SaaS Leadership Lessons1. Measure adoption, not delivery. On time and on budget don’t matter if nobody uses the software. Plan for adoption from day one. 2. Understand the real process first. Technology won’t fix broken workflows. Talk to the people doing the work, not only executives. 3. Involve delivery before the sale closes. Bring an engineer, project architect, or project manager into pre-sales to confirm the solution is practical. 4. Train people in context. Use real workflows, devices, and customizations. Include users throughout the project and show them what improves their work. 5. Treat shadow IT as a warning sign. Secret spreadsheets and workarounds create inaccurate reporting and concentrated knowledge risk. 6. *Price the maintenance, not just the build. Before choosing a custom solution, assess ownership, security, compliance, integrations, and failure scenarios. Guest Resourceshttps://defactoprojectmanagement.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-kaminetzky-pmp-fractional-project-manager/ Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

    432 | How Cross-Functional Alignment Prevents Costly Project Failures | Deborah Kaminetzky

  8. Oct 13

    431 | The Hidden Work Behind Cross-Border Supply Chains | Daman Grewal

    Daman Grewal grew a logistics company from $1 million to $24 million in four years, working across dispatch, safety, accounts receivable, and sales before he fully recognized the skills he was building. Now he runs Centurion Trucking, teaches sales through the free Logistics Sales platform, and is building a visibility tool for small and mid-sized carriers. In this conversation, Daman breaks down why sales is really communication, how to question the belief that you “can’t afford to hire,” and what to do when a development vendor keeps promising progress without delivering the product. He also shares why service should come before the sale, how setbacks build resilience, and why better visibility can help smaller logistics companies compete with larger players. Key Takeaways00:00 Sales is applied communication 01:45 The complexity behind modern logistics 04:31 Lessons from starting work at 19 05:32 What happens when freight crosses borders 09:22 Why Logistics Sales was created 11:58 Discovering the value of sales work 14:26 Teaching sales across 65 countries 18:36 Rethinking the cost of hiring 20:50 “Is that really true?” 25:01 What COVID revealed about supply chains 28:18 Building visibility for trucking companies 33:33 What went wrong with the first development vendor 36:36 Rebuilding with an in-house team 39:12 Sales as service, not pressure 45:52 Consistency, mindset, and resilience Tweetable Quotes- “There’s nothing crazy about sales besides just the art of communication. And we all do it every day.” Daman Grewal [00:14] - “When you don’t have any limitations per se, then sky’s the limit.” Daman Grewal [05:19] - “If you bought it, a truck brought it.” Daman Grewal [06:02] - “Every single business has a sales component.” Daman Grewal [10:45] - “Let’s take the fear out of this whole thing. Let’s take the blocks away.” Daman Grewal [11:16] - “Solve the problem first. Worry about everything later.” Daman Grewal [20:03] - “Is that really true?” Daman Grewal [20:50] - “You don’t realize that you can create opportunities.” Daman Grewal [23:18] - “Everything, if you follow it to its origin, has a story.” Daman Grewal [27:54] - “There’s no way that we can move forward” when trust is gone. Daman Grewal [36:29] - “Everyone has to go through challenges.” Daman Grewal [37:01] - “The person that’s been to zero has nothing to lose and everything to gain in life.” Daman Grewal [48:31] - “Who’s the programmer?” Daman Grewal [49:26] - “The only person that’s truly putting restrictions on ourselves is the person that’s looking in the mirror.” Daman Grewal [22:20] - “If we do well, we want the people around us to do well.” Daman Grewal [40:40] SaaS Leadership Lessons1. Prove capability before funding development. Ask vendors to demonstrate the core feature before committing further resources 2. Tie payments to milestones. Daman Grewal stopped paying invoices when the team couldn’t show progress on the product’s main feature 3. Build for a clear customer segment. His platform targets small and midsize logistics companies that lack the tools available to larger operators 4. Make visibility simple. The product combines vehicles, providers, shipment tracking, and paperwork in one platform 5. Use transparency to retain customers. Daman Grewal linked customer retention over 20 years to the visibility his company provided 6. Treat setbacks as information. After changing vendors, he built an in-house team and kept moving forward [36:36] Guest Resourceswww.linkedin.com/in/daman-grewal-12424a16 www.LogisticsSales.com https://www.facebook.com/centurion.trucking Episode SponsorThe Futureproof Series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkXKUPZ5xuOqMPR7_gzGybncTtavyR1N The Captain's Keys Small Fish, Big Pond – https://smallfishbigpond.com/ Use the promo code ‘SaaSFuel’ Champion Leadership Group – https://championleadership.com/ https://jeffmains.com/books/ SaaS Fuel ResourcesWebsite - https://championleadership.com/ Jeff Mains on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffkmains/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jeffkmains Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thesaasguy/ Instagram - https://instagram.com/jeffkmains

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