Get Behind Me Jesus

Joe Cash

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This is a progressive spiritual podcast aimed at deconstructing Christians and spiritual-not-religious folks exploring the more authentic person and teaching of Jesus and various spiritual traditions that challenge Western/White centered ideologies. The show is designed to move beyond surface-level "hot takes" to explore the messy, beautiful process of deconstructing and rebuilding faith and community. getbehindmejesus.substack.com

Jun 19

This 3D Life with D. Dean Graves

Music: "Earn It" licensed through Soundstripe - B9PELGJLUPUOO2ST "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Title: Exploring Consciousness, Spiritual Evolution, and Interdimensional Beings Discover an insightful conversation with spiritual teacher and author Dee Dean Graves as he guides us through the cosmos of consciousness, the nature of reality, and the path of spiritual evolution. This episode unpacks complex metaphysical concepts, from densities and archetypes to extraterrestrial influences, all framed within the journey toward authentic self-awareness. In this episode: Dean shares his journey from a typical life to awakening, exploring the metaphysical nature of the self.The layered concepts of densities, archetypes, and the law of one are explained with practical examples.The role of stress, suffering, and authentic love in spiritual growth is discussed.The influence of extraterrestrial civilizations, including the Pleiadians and Arcturians, on Earth’s evolution is explored.The importance of deconstructing ego, beliefs, and societal perceptions to attain higher consciousness.Insights into near-death experiences, chakras, and the transition beyond the physical realm.Considerations on the future of human consciousness, community, and collective evolution.Practical guidance on meditation, healing, and embracing the spiritual journey.Resources & Links: D. Dean Graves WebsiteChatting with the Arcturians PodcastBook: Enlightenment, Plain and SimpleBook: The Enigma of ConsciousnessBook: Identity ModelConnect with Dee Dean Graves: YouTubeFacebook

1h 28m
Jun 18

The Foundation Ferrara Abundance with Steve Ferrara

"Acknowledging the good that you already have in your life is the foundation for all abundance." - Eckhart Tolle Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Discover how deep spiritual insights and personal experience can transform grief into gratitude and inner peace. In this episode, Steve Ferrara shares his inspiring journey through the loss of his son, the power of universal principles, and practical ways to cultivate resilience and spiritual awakening in times of sorrow. Key topics: Steve Ferrara’s personal journey from grief to gratitude after losing his 23-year-old sonThe distinction between religion, spirituality, and universal lawsPractical steps for embracing grief as a transformational processThe role of journaling, silence, and sacred space in healingHow universal laws and concepts like compassion, forgiveness, and radical acceptance support growthExploring the concept of death as an ongoing journey, not a final endingThe importance of inner work, mindfulness, and disconnecting from overstimulationThe scientific and spiritual understanding of consciousness evolutionThe significance of gratitude as a healing toolBuilding community and surrounding oneself with supportive, conscious individualsResources & Links: From Grief to Gratitude: Embracing the Inner Pathway to Healing and Peace - Book by Steve FerraraThe Power of Now by Eckhart TolleThe Course in MiraclesMichael Singer – The Untethered SoulDavid Hawkins – Power vs. ForceStephen Pinker – The Better Angels Among UsConnect with Steve Ferrara: Website

1h 31m
Mar 24

Theology High Five Part 2

Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Summary This episode explores a wide range of topics including societal patterns, history, archaeology, and the power of animation as a storytelling medium. Jeremy and Joe delve into historical parallels, current societal issues, and personal interests in movies and animation, offering deep insights and thought-provoking ideas. Their conversation explores the influence of social media, the nature of human systems, and the potential for societal change. Joe gets riled up about propaganda, systems of colonization, the role of music in activism, and the impact of technology on society. In this engaging conversation, Jeremy and Joe explore the profound impact of music on community, spirituality, and personal growth. The point of the episode was to discuss Jeremy's keystone paper on the legacy of the Grateful Dead, but we wind up reflecting on the broader ideas of the power of presence, and the importance of embracing our humanity through shared experiences and reflection. Resources Paradise Engineering by Yacht - https://music.apple.com/us/album/paradise-engineering/1440857784 Big Bang Theory (TV Show) - https://www.cbs.com/shows/big-bang-theory/ Kids in the Hall - Brain Candy - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112453/ Social Media Algorithms and Society - https://www.example.com/social-media-algorithms The Hebrew Testament - https://www.amazon.com/Hebrew-Testament-Introduction-Commentary/dp/1234567890 The Grateful Dead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grateful_Dead Brooklyn Nine-Nine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Nine-Nine Ricky Gervais - https://twitter.com/rickygervais George Carlin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin Website - https://substack.com/getbehindmejesus

1h 12m
11/17/2025

Theology High Five Part 1 with Jeremy Weiss

Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Episode 7 – Theology High Five (with Jeremey Weiss) Theology High Five is two episodes coming together to produce one satisfying (extended) conversation about a theological idea. Episode one will introduce 5 potential topics through casual conversation and the second episode will dial in on one of those topics depending on what becomes the most salient or interesting. At its core it’s just a fun segment where we can hang and just geek out about whatever is on our minds at the time. In this inaugural episode, Joe and Jeremy engage in a deep conversation about personal challenges, mental health, and spiritual journeys, with Joe sharing his experiences as an Uber driver supporting his family while pursuing seminary studies. They explored concepts like neuro-relational integration, the differences between Western and Eastern approaches to health and spirituality, and the role of language in defining spiritual concepts. The discussion concluded with reflections on the importance of empathy, understanding, and building respectful relationships, particularly in parenting. Key Discussion Points · Mental Health Challenges, Relationships and Authentic faith · Neuro-Relational Integration · Religion vs Language; Spirituality vs Perspective · Eastern vs Western Approaches to Health and Spirituality · Parenting Perspectives and Relationship Building Mentions · https://trippfuller.com/ · https://substack.com/@homebrewedteam · https://processthis.substack.com/ · https://substack.com/@shaleenkendrick · https://nrintegration.com/ Connect with the Show * Email: getbehindmejesus.pod@gmail.com * Website: getbehindmejesus.substack.com * Bluesky: @getbehindmejesus.substack.com Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe

1 hr
09/22/2025

ToGemmer Again

Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Episode 6 - ToGemmer Again (with Darin Gemmer) Darin’s Back! In this episode, Joe and Darin discuss the challenging topic of building community and maintaining a consistent ethic in a divided and often violent world. Sparked by the recent murder of Charlie Kirk, Joe and Darin explore the complexities of condemning both hateful rhetoric and the violence it can incite. They go beyond the headlines to discuss what it means to live out a practical faith, exploring everything from the need to move beyond intellectual debates to the importance of standing in solidarity with those suffering far from home. This is a crucial conversation about finding hope and building genuine connection in a world filled with heartbreak. Key Discussion Points * A Consistent Ethic in the Wake of Tragedy: Joe and Darin discuss the murder of Charlie Kirk and the need for a "consistent Jesus ethic" that condemns both hateful speech and violence. They share their thoughts on navigating ideological differences without resorting to fear, hatred, or "hot take activism." * From Ideas to Action: The conversation moves from theory to practice as the hosts explore the power of building community through small, consistent actions like sharing meals and cooking sourdough for the women's prison. * Theological Roots of Community: The episode delves into the importance of a theology that supports collective responsibility. Joe and Darin share their struggles with finding community in a church setting and explore the idea of open relational theology through the lens of Jesus's relationship with Judas, emphasizing that true connection is more about love than power. * Standing in Solidarity: They discuss the importance of being vocal about global suffering, including the genocide in Gaza. Drawing on the wisdom of historical figures like MLK and Malcolm X, they challenge listeners to expand their consciousness beyond their immediate experiences and speak out for others. Mentions * https://substack.com/@jemartisby * brianmclaren.net Connect with the Show * Email: getbehindmejesus.pod@gmail.com * Website: getbehindmejesus.substack.com * Instagram: @getbehindmejesus * Bluesky: @getbehindmejesus.substack.com Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe

1h 30m
08/29/2025

It's About Heart Man with Randy Hartman

Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Summary Randall Hartman grew up in the Church of the Nazarene and gave his life in service to the organization. But when he began to speak out about the Churches hottest topic, LGBT inclusion, he was tried for heresy. He stands among the likes of Dr. Tom Oord, Dr. Dee Kelley, and many others who have defied the denomination in services of its own core value: The doctrine of Holiness. Although few within its membership can articulate what holiness means, many are hell-bent on ejecting those who would offer a loving and inclusive perspective. As the organization unravels in increasingly chaotic spasms of hyper-exclusionary rhetoric and practices, they continue to unmoor themselves from the traditions they supposedly hold dear and instead align themselves with violent anti-queer Christian Nationalists. A fate so common among Evangelical groups, it’s hardly surprising – but to many is still so heartbreaking. As tragic and frustrating as his experience has been over the last few years, Randy says he’s not going anywhere. Still wondering whether a bridge can be built over these troubled waters, he reflects on a different time, one that was marked by love and community - the church he grew up in and hoped to pass on to his children and grandchildren. We talk about being immersed in the church, a calling to preach and serve, and all the people and places that came into his life. We tease his upcoming book “A God Awful God” and muse on whether the Church of the Nazarene will successfully weather this identity crisis. I am grateful for Randy’s patience and vulnerability as we navigated some extreme technical issues to bring you this episode. Although we don’t explore theology throughout our conversation, we examine his experiences in the shadow of that once compelling doctrine of holiness. For both of us, it all comes down to a matter of heart. I hope you enjoy this conversation, thanks for being here.*If you want to explore more about John Wesley, the quadrilateral model, the doctrine of holiness, or Open and Relational Theology and Process thought -I would point you once again to Tom Oord, who is extremely well educated and particularly articulate regarding their substance and practice. Properly understood, Holiness is the both the expression and evidence of a life well lived in relation to God and neighbor – it’s something this world still needs very much. Resources and Mentions: The Great Escape Acts 26:16 Randallhartman.com Randallhartmanphotography.com Theology Beer Camp https://thomasjayoord.com/ https://c4ort.com/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe

1h 20m
08/22/2025

All Roads Lead to Joe with Joe Hanson-McIntyre

Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Outline: 1. Growing up Catholic 2. Coming out and Navigating Identity a. Navigating Family Dynamics 3. The emotional toll of Educating Others a. Suicide b. Workplace Challenges and acceptance c. Advocacy and community connection through social media 4. Personal Journey and shared traumas 5. Navigating Spirituality and community a. Finding peace in music and core beliefs b. Deconstructing faith and understanding God 6. Advice for the journey ahead Content warning: explicit language, discussing suicide Summary: Joe is a work friend. We bonded early over our shared history of Catholicism and snarky attitude toward Church and Christians. Our conversations hinted at deep trauma and because he is an out gay man, I rightly assumed the that his religious experience was largely negative. But the more I got to know him the more I could see his resilience. He didn’t let the Church or various people determine his fate for him. His strong sense of self-reliance and self-determination has allowed him to navigate religious persecution and shame in a way that radiates strength and character. As with many of my LGBTQ friends, I am in awe of the commitment to love and truth that reflects the gospel message better than anything either my Catholic or Evangelical upbringing gave me. I’m grateful to Joe for both his vulnerability and enthusiasm and I hope that you enjoy this conversation! Resources and Mentions: https://www.instagram.com/jphromania1991 https://music.apple.com/us/album/kpop-demon-hunters-soundtrack-from-the-netflix-film/1820264137 https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com/ Suicide help: Help is available Speak with someone today 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline Languages: English, Spanish Hours: Available 24 hours https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe

1h 25m
08/16/2025

To Process, Oord Not To Process with Thomas Jay Oord

Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Outline: 1. The Evolution of Evangelicalism a. Cultural shifts in Evangelical thought b. Empathy and compassion in Theology 2. Authority of Scripture in Process Theology 3. Salvation and Pluralism in Religious Traditions 4. Holiness as Love 5. The Insights of Religion 6. Christians in a Decadent Culture a. Addressing Cultural Differences b. Personal vs. Systemic Responsibility 7. Christian Formation and Spirituality 8. God’s Activity and Human Experience a. The Nature of God b. Hope and Universal Salvation Summary: Dr. Thomas Jay Oord and I discuss Open and Relational Theology and Process theology in particular, using an essay he wrote 20 years ago as the starting point. Open and Relational Theology is the umbrella under which Process Theology exists. We use the terms interchangeably but there are some distinctions we discuss in the episode. Primarily those distinctions have to do with God’s Nature. We talk about how the times have changed since the article was written and how that has affected the theological commitments made by people who call themselves Evangelical. We focus on the deviation from the loving character of God especially as it is demonstrated by Jesus. We also discuss the authority of Scripture in Process Theology and the invitation to engage the world with empathy but also a clear sense of transformation. Dr. Oord introduces the substantial proof that Process Theology offers for “the divine origins of ecstatic religious experience” by talking through the nuance of the “Wesleyan Quadrilateral.” He also reaffirms the importance of how we conceive of God, referencing how critics have helped him to develop a view of “Relentless Love” and the universal salvation of all things. All of this and his other thoughts and works have culminated in his development of a Systematic Theology of Love. I am grateful to Dr. Oord for his unique articulation of these powerful ideas about a loving God and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did. I look forward to having him back on the show! Resources and Mentions: https://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/process_and_wesleyan_theologies https://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/open-and-process-theologies-blur https://substack.com/@thomasjayoord/posts https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe

58 min

This is a progressive spiritual podcast aimed at deconstructing Christians and spiritual-not-religious folks exploring the more authentic person and teaching of Jesus and various spiritual traditions that challenge Western/White centered ideologies. The show is designed to move beyond surface-level "hot takes" to explore the messy, beautiful process of deconstructing and rebuilding faith and community. getbehindmejesus.substack.com

Creator

Joe Cash
Years Active

2025 - 2026
Episodes

21
Rating

Explicit
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© 2026 Joe Cash
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