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  1. FEB 3

    S4E179: The Art of Directing: Insights from Rob Spera

    Join hosts Christine Chen and Adam Chase Rani on Episode 179 of the Get Reelisms Podcast as they dive into a fascinating conversation with special guest Rob Spera, a seasoned film and television director, and educator at the American Film Institute. Spera shares invaluable insights about the filmmaking industry, discussing his work with Ride Back Rise, a fellowship program supporting mid-career people of color. He emphasizes the importance of doing the work, focusing on long-term career plans, and maintaining passion through teaching and community-building. The episode also touches on practical directing advice, including how to effectively collaborate with actors and the significance of living a balanced life to fuel creativity. This episode is packed with wisdom for both aspiring and seasoned filmmakers. Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)   & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow. WEBISODE VERISON OF THE PODCAST TIMELINE: 00:00 Introduction to Film Scene Lengths 00:40 Welcome to the Get Reelisms Podcast 01:16 Meet Rob Spera: Director and Educator 01:41 The Ride Back Rise Fellowship 04:35 The Long Game: Developing a Five-Year Plan 06:43 Rob Spera's Journey in the Film Industry 10:11 Advice for Aspiring Producers 11:39 The Importance of Creating Your Own Opportunities 15:55 Teaching and Keeping the Passion Alive 23:44 Directing Techniques and Respecting Actors 32:07 The Importance of Scene Simplicity 32:48 Navigating Actor Challenges 33:31 The Role of Blocking and Camera Angles 35:53 Building a Collaborative Environment 40:21 The Value of Gratitude on Set 47:12 Advice for Aspiring Filmmakers 52:31 Balancing Creativity and Work 56:33 Final Thoughts and Farewell Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    58 min

  2. JAN 20

    S4E178 | From Normie to Academy Member - The Trials and Tribulations of Film Life

    Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen from the Get Reelisms podcast discuss their recent film experiences, including Christine's encounter with Steven Spielberg and Leonardo DiCaprio at a film screening, and her new status as an Academy member. The episode offers insights into the exclusive world of prestigious film screenings and the realities of living in Los Angeles. They also talk about the challenges of the film industry, the necessity of side hustles, and the importance of staying in the game despite the difficulties. The hosts underscore the value of life experiences and continuous learning in the filmmaking journey. The episode concludes with the announcement of an upcoming interview with writer and director Rob Spera.   Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)   & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com   About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow.   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com   WEBISODE version of the Podcast TIME SUMMARY: 00:00 Introduction and Movie Review 00:40 Welcome to the Get Reelisms Podcast 01:35 Christine's Encounter with Leonardo DiCaprio 04:39 Becoming an Academy Member 09:24 The Perks of Membership 15:37 Networking and Meeting Industry Giants 18:41 Discussing Movie Preferences 19:13 Logistics of Filmmaking 19:39 Experiences on Set 21:05 Challenges of Filming in Mansions 23:37 Living in Different Cities 32:21 The Reality of the Film Industry 38:30 The Impact of AI on Filmmaking 39:59 Conclusion and Upcoming Guest Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    41 min

  3. JAN 5

    S4E177 | Blood, Sweat, and Cats. The struggles of independent filmmaking with Mye Hoang, director of Cat Daddies and 25 Cats of Qatar

    Navigating the Challenges of Independent Filmmaking: Insights from '25 Cats from Qatar' Director In this episode of the Get Reelisms podcast, hosts Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen welcome back indie documentary filmmaker Mye Hoang to discuss her latest film '25 Cats from Qatar.' Mye shares her experiences and challenges while touring the film, dealing with distribution, and employing innovative strategies like in-person screenings and merchandise sales to engage audiences and fundraise for cat rescues. The conversation also delves into the importance of passion in filmmaking, the difficulties of marketing independent films, and the increasingly fragmented media landscape. The episode is filled with heartfelt moments, practical advice, and insights into the world of indie filmmaking.   Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)  & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow. Guest:  Mye Hoang is a Los Angeles–based producer and director, best known for her feature documentary Cat Daddies (2022), which she directed, produced, and edited. She previously produced acclaimed indie projects such as Man from Reno and I Will Make You Mine, and launched her career with the coming-of-age narrative Viette (2012). A longtime advocate for Asian-American cinema, Hoang also founded the Asian Film Festival of Dallas and served as Artistic Director of the San Diego Asian Film Festival..   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com   WEBISODE version of the Podcast getreelisms.com    00:00 Introduction to the Challenges of YouTube Filmmaking 00:36 Meet the Hosts and Special Guest 01:53 Touring with '25 Cats from Qatar' 10:20 The Cat Crisis in Qatar 14:05 Behind the Scenes: Filming in Qatar 25:36 The Bigger Picture: Animal Welfare and Distribution Challenges 39:03 The Challenge of Competing with Streaming Giants 39:28 The Struggle for Financial Viability in Filmmaking 42:12 The Reality of Self-Distribution and Live Events 44:50 The Importance of Merchandise Revenue 47:39 The Difficulties of Independent Film Promotion 52:07 The Impact of Social Media and Algorithms 57:39 The Frustrations of Booking Theaters and Festivals 01:10:34 The Value of Human Connection in Filmmaking 01:11:34 Encouragement and Final Thoughts Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    1h 21m

  4. 12/23/2025

    S4E176 | Vertical Films and The New Era of Content

    In episode 176 of the Get Reelisms Podcast, hosts Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen discuss the demanding nature of film production and how it impacts their personal lives. They share behind-the-scenes insights into their recent filmmaking experiences, particularly focusing on the rise and intricacies of vertical short-form dramas. The hosts also delve into the challenges faced due to industry changes, including differing set hours and the widespread adoption of data-driven content creation. Additionally, they touch upon the cultural dynamics influencing current popular content and express concerns on how these trends might shape future media consumption. Despite the struggles, both hosts reflect on the evolving landscape with optimism for the future of creative expression in filmmaking.   Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)   & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com   About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow.   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com     WEBISODE version of the Podcast getreelisms.com  Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    36 min

  5. 12/09/2025

    S4E175 | A Filmmaker's Journey: Triumphs and Setbacks

    In this episode of the Get Reelisms podcast, hosts Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen discuss their latest challenges in the filmmaking industry, focusing on Christine's recent experience of having her laptop stolen from her car. They talk about the importance of community support and resilience in the face of setbacks. The episode also touches on the current trends in the film industry, the role of vertical filmmaking, and their personal experiences with the ups and downs of working in film. Throughout, the hosts emphasize the importance of perseverance and staying committed to their passion for filmmaking despite the obstacles.   Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)   & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com   About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow.   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com     WEBISODE version of the Podcast getreelisms.com  00:00 The Unfortunate Incident 01:01 Introducing the Get Reelisms Podcast 01:47 A Filmmaker's Life in Austin 03:21 The Dances with Films Festival Experience 06:45 The Aftermath of the Theft 08:09 A Heartwarming Encounter 12:25 Reflecting on the Struggles and Support 16:51 Car Troubles and the Hustle 23:26 Community Support and Moving Forward 27:29 Commitment to the Film Industry 28:00 The Power of Community 29:22 Struggles in the Industry 29:56 Looking Back and Moving Forward 31:15 Navigating Inconsistencies 33:30 Verticals: The New Frontier 34:26 Directing Challenges and Opportunities 43:59 Nostalgia and Media Formats 50:03 The Future of the Film Industry 51:36 Conclusion and Housekeeping   Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    53 min

  6. 11/25/2025

    S4E174 | Behind the Scenes of a Pervert Musical

    In this episode of the Get Reelisms podcast, hosts Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen engage with filmmaker Josh Munds to discuss their unique and humorous film 'Peeping Todd.' The conversation dives into the logistics and challenges of creating a musical about a peeping tom, featuring behind-the-scenes anecdotes involving the cast and crew, quirky budget allocations for sex toys, and funny improvisations. Special guest appearances from other crew members further highlight their collective effort in bringing this unconventional project to life. The episode ends with an invitation to watch the film's premiere at Dances with Films in LA's Chinese Theater, promising a night of laughter and creativity.   Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)  & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow. Guest:  Josh Munds is a filmmaker known for his work on Peeping Todd (2025), as well as earlier shorts Unemployed (2016) and Death Day (2016) IMDb. A former Louisiana Film Prize finalist for Death Day, Josh wrote and directed the dark comedy solo, working with a tight-knit crew of family and friends to bring the project to life in just six days. His recent feature Peeping Todd earned him Best Director honors at the Waco Indie Festival Peeping Todd (2025) is a darkly comedic thriller that follows Todd, whose obsession with voyeurism spirals out of control. When his secret spying habits are threatened, Todd becomes increasingly unhinged—and ultimately willing to do anything to keep watching the object of his affection, Claire.   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com     WEBISODE version of the Podcast getreelisms.com    00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 01:23 Special Guest Introduction: Josh Munds 03:23 Filmmaking Journey and Shreveport Connections 06:02 Peeping Todd: From Concept to Feature 08:37 Musical Numbers and Choreography Insights 10:47 Production Challenges and Behind-the-Scenes Stories 28:18 Upcoming Screenings and Future Plans 31:34 The HOA Scene and Michael's Request 32:30 Challenges of Filming: Elements and Elderly Actors 33:06 Funny Moments and Props on Set 34:43 Reese's DJ Scene and NSYNC Inspiration 35:44 Wardrobe Callbacks and Prop Reuse 38:46 Filming Locations and Scheduling 41:02 Favorite Moments and Set Dynamics 44:42 Pitching the Film and Community Support 46:56 Sound Design and Test Screenings 55:54 Excitement for the Premiere   Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    58 min

  7. 11/18/2025

    S4E173 | Meeting Sir Roger Deakins and the Magic of Cinegear

    In this episode of the Get Reelisms podcast, hosts Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen share their experiences at the Cinegear Expo, a camera-heavy event showcasing the latest in film technology from brands like Canon, Sony, and ARI. The hosts delve into eclectic new technologies like Canon's C 400 camera, which creates proxies simultaneously while recording, and unique filters with built-in glitter for dynamic visual effects. Christine narrates her encounter with legendary DP Sir Roger Deakins and discusses panels featuring creators from Chef's Table and TV genre directors. They also celebrate the practical insights and nostalgia shared by industry veterans like Jim Planette, whose father gaffed iconic films like 'It's a Wonderful Life.' The episode highlights the challenges and rewards of the filmmaking community in LA, emphasizing the importance of persistence, networking, and embracing the ever-evolving technological landscape.   Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)  & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow.   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com     WEBISODE version of the Podcast getreelisms.com    00:00 Exploring the Overwhelming First Day at Cinegear 00:53 Introduction to Get Reelisms Podcast 01:15 Navigating Universal Studios for Cinegear 02:56 Exciting Camera Gear and Innovations 04:13 Canon C400: A Game Changer for Filmmakers 08:06 Unique Filters and Creative Tools 12:03 Networking and Promoting Get Reelisms 13:28 Meeting the Legendary Roger Deakins 18:20 Insights from Chef's Table Creator 19:52 The Cinematic Journey of Chefs 21:48 Challenges of TV Directors 22:50 The Magic of Filmmaking 23:32 The Struggles and Rewards of LA 24:40 Technological Innovations in Filmmaking 29:41 The Legacy of Classic Films 34:37 Conclusion and Reflections   Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    36 min

  8. 11/11/2025

    S4E172 | From LA to Austin: Filmmaking, Community & the Indie Hustle

    In episode 172 of the Get Reelisms podcast, hosts Adam Chase Rani and Christine Chen, both filmmakers, are joined by illustrators Kellie Penna and Jason. They discuss the origins and creation of their book 'Get Reelisms,' which started on the set of 'Terror Birds' in 2016. The conversation covers the differences in film culture between Austin and Los Angeles, the importance of community, and the challenges faced in the industry today, such as lack of opportunities and financial instability. They also touch on the personal impact of these challenges, the communal nature of Austin, and the advantages and drawbacks of working in LA. The episode ends with plans for future gatherings and the importance of continuing to support indie filmmaking. Hosts: Adam Rani (@adamthechase)  & Christine Chen (@cchenmtf)  About Christine W Chen: Christine W. Chen is a Taiwanese American filmmaker, Academy member (Short Films Branch), and versatile producer, director, and writer known for bold, character-driven storytelling. Through her production company, Moth to Flame, she has created award-winning short films, features, and branded content—including Erzulie, a feminist swamp thriller that had a limited theatrical run and now streams on major platforms. In addition to her directorial work, Christine is a seasoned DGA 1st Assistant Director and co-author of Get Reelisms and ABCs of Filmmaking, as well as the co-host of the Get Reelisms Podcast. For more information about Christine Chen: christinewchen.com About Adam Rani: Adam Chase Rani is a production designer and set dresser working in the Austin film market, bringing a sharp eye for visual storytelling and practical creativity to every project. During the pandemic, he co-founded the Get Reelisms Podcast with Christine Chen to foster community within the film industry. Together, they’ve built a platform that blends education, candid conversations, and industry insights to help filmmakers connect, learn, and grow. Guests: Team Get Reelisms Kellie Penna: A native Texan who moved to Austin shortly after graduating college, Kellie cut her chops in the run and gun indie scene in Austin, doing all things art. 6 or 7 years later, each project gets bigger and better. Kellie is a full time production designer in the film industry. She has been on almost every Christine Chen film.  Jason Cates:  Jason Cates is a life long Austin area artist that has worked with Moth to Flame films primarily as a set sound recordist. He is also the creator of Derelict Ink a monthly zine featuring poetry and prose. Vile Trash Poet is his branding for his sound exploration studies with synthesizers and sampling.   For more information go to getreelisms.com  For more information on ERZULIE go to: erzuliefilm.com     WEBISODE version of the Podcast getreelisms.com  00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:33 Reunion and Catching Up 01:02 Meet the Team 02:49 Origins of Get Reelisms 03:58 Creating the Book 05:18 Challenges and Successes 10:03 The Baby Book Project 12:41 Life in Los Angeles vs. Austin 15:20 Community and Collaboration 31:37 Dating and Social Dynamics 35:59 Navigating Dating in the City 36:48 The Cost of Socializing 37:16 Building Connections in LA 39:18 Austin vs. LA: A Comparison 39:55 The Creative Community in Austin 46:24 Challenges of Filmmaking in LA 51:37 The Indie Film Spirit 57:04 The Future of Filmmaking 01:06:50 Wrapping Up and Future Plans   Official Get Reelisms Page Get Reelisms Amazon Store Instagram

    1h 8m
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